Which Ryzen CPU?

[monster0429]

I am upgrading my PC to a Ryzen Processor. I am a streamer who is wanting to get into YouTube content creation. I have the ability to get any of the Ryzen CPU's when it comes to cost  I just don't want to over spend if I can avoid it. Currently considering the Ryzen 7 1700X.

[WhyAlwaysMe]

5 minutes ago, monster0429 said:

I am upgrading my PC to a Ryzen Processor. I am a streamer who is wanting to get into YouTube content creation. I have the ability to get any of the Ryzen CPU's when it comes to cost  I just don't want to over spend if I can avoid it. Currently considering the Ryzen 7 1700X.

If you are overclocking, the 1700 will yield similar results to both the 1700x and 1800x.

[DemiGod]

Definetly ryzen 1700. Ryzen 1700 1700x 1800 are the same cpu with diffirent clocks sure 1800 might overlock to 4,1 ghz but you should be able to get 1700 to 3,9ghz which is.bassicly the same no point in buying 1700x as its performance can be achieved.by slightly overclocking 1700

[ItsTheDuckAgain]

Well you are pretty much at the end of the lineup with only the 1800x to top it. It will do fine as long as the rest of the rig goes along with it.

 

1700 / 1700x / 1800x are basically all the same depending on how high they can clock. people normally go with 1700 non x since 1700x performance can be reached by a light overclock just by looking at it.

 

that beeing said I would go with intel any day of the week. that stuff just works better and is more hazzle free. (no fanboy though.)

[Jurrunio]

Just to add that make sure you use an X370 mobo. The power draw from 8 overclocked cores can be too much for the power delivery on most B350 motherboards to take

[monster0429]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Just to add that make sure you use an X370 mobo. The power draw from 8 overclocked cores can be too much for the power delivery on most B350 motherboards to take

Oh I was not aware of that! Thanks for the heads up.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, ItsTheDuckAgain said:

that beeing said I would go with intel any day of the week. that stuff just works better and is more hazzle free. (no fanboy though.)

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Works better, but slower

[monster0429]

2 minutes ago, ItsTheDuckAgain said:

Well you are pretty much at the end of the lineup with only the 1800x to top it. It will do fine as long as the rest of the rig goes along with it.

 

1700 / 1700x / 1800x are basically all the same depending on how high they can clock. people normally go with 1700 non x since 1700x performance can be reached by a light overclock just by looking at it.

 

that beeing said I would go with intel any day of the week. that stuff just works better and is more hazzle free. (no fanboy though.)

The only reason I am not going intel is just the cost of Intel CPU's and MoBos.

 

[ItsTheDuckAgain]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Works better, but slower

which highly depends an used software and overclocks (if any) and the intel CPU used compared the ryzen. the new intel lineup is strong enough in my mind :-)

[monster0429]

Just now, ItsTheDuckAgain said:

which highly depends an used software and overclocks (if any) and the intel CPU used compared the ryzen. the new intel lineup is strong enough in my mind :-)

It is but I was really wanting to full 8 cores not just 6 for the sake of future proofing it a bit more. And I really do not want to invest in x299 if I am being honest.

[WereCat]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just to add that make sure you use an X370 mobo. The power draw from 8 overclocked cores can be too much for the power delivery on most B350 motherboards to take

Many X370 MoBos use the same cheap VRM design as their B350 versions though...

[monster0429]

So what about this combo for the MOBO and CPU?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XQ5V3R4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WP5YCX6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[Jurrunio]

Just now, monster0429 said:

So what about this combo for the MOBO and CPU?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XQ5V3R4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WP5YCX6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

No MSI btw. RAM compatibility is an issue, and often bashed for cheaping out VRMs

[monster0429]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

No MSI btw. RAM compatibility is an issue, and often bashed for cheaping out VRMs

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Ryzen-Motherboard-Prime-X370/dp/B0716ZHGKF/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1513586296&sr=1-3&keywords=x370+motherboard

Asus better?

[xg32]

a 8700 has similar multithreaded performance as a 1700 except it games better, but the 1700 combo is cheaper especially if you are gonna use the stock heatsink. That said, the 1700 is NOT futureproofed with the low clocks, ur oc can end up anywhere from 3.7-3.9. A new ryzen lineup is also launching in 2 months.

1 minute ago, monster0429 said:

So what about this combo for the MOBO and CPU?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XQ5V3R4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WP5YCX6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

i wouldn't use that board for overclocking: use this one

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157774

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, monster0429 said:

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Ryzen-Motherboard-Prime-X370/dp/B0716ZHGKF/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1513586296&sr=1-3&keywords=x370+motherboard

Asus better?

This

6 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Many X370 MoBos use the same cheap VRM design as their B350 versions though...

Just count the phases / blocks right next to the CPU. You'd want 8 of them (other than Asrock, they use doublers so 12 on theirs)

[Princess Luna]

I mean if you can afford the i7 8700... if not Ryzen 7 yup.

[monster0429]

On 12/18/2017 at 2:07 AM, Princess Cadence said:

I mean if you can afford the i7 8700... if not Ryzen 7 yup.

I priced it out and its close to $200 more because of the MOBO and the CPU. So as much as I would love to go 8700k I just can't.

[Zeitec]

On 12/18/2017 at 12:16 AM, monster0429 said:

I am upgrading my PC to a Ryzen Processor. I am a streamer who is wanting to get into YouTube content creation. I have the ability to get any of the Ryzen CPU's when it comes to cost  I just don't want to over spend if I can avoid it. Currently considering the Ryzen 7 1700X.

The best value for the money is a Ryzen 7 1700, using the stock cooler to overclock all 8 cores to a locked 3.7ghz on stock voltage with a high end B350 or cheaper X370 board (depending on features you need) and calling it a day. Anything more is spending $50+ to get an extra 200-300mhz which isn't worth it. 

[Guest]

IMO this is the real facts as of today 

 

 

Ryzen 1600+B350 for gamers with a 1070 or lower and for people with a 1080 or higher a 8700K+Z370. 

 

 

Unless one needs and i mean really needs those 8 cores and that level of multithreading i see little reason to get Ryzen 7 i say this as a Ryzen 7 owner i love my CPU but with coffee-lake i simply don't think its worth it or makes a lot of sense. 

 

Zen 2 will be out in 2019 it will most likely have even more tweaks for higher frequency's even more then what Pinnacle Ridge will see. AM4 will last to 2020 and even Zen 3 will work on current boards with a simple bios update.