New i5? Or old i7?

[Busconian]

Right now I have an i5 6400 with 8GB of DDR4 memory. (2x4GB)

Now I have the potential to get an i7 3770 for dirt cheap from my school. 16GB of RAM as well. It would cost me about $150 bucks to get it running. 

So should I make the swap for a while? I have a GTX 1080 and I play at 1080p 60hz, soon to be 144hz. I play CSGO, PUBG, Overwatch, GTA, Battlefield 4. So mostly everything.

[Crunchy Dragon]

That's not bad at all, I have a friend that still runs a 3770K and a 1080 SLI. The extra 8Gb of memory will come in handy too.

 

I personally would love an older i7, I feel like older hardware is really underrated these days. I personally came into possession of a GTX 780 from the friend mentioned above, yet to use it in a PC(in need of a PSU upgrade), but the more I read and watch about it, the more I look forward to it.

[dcgreen2k]

According to Userbenchmark, the 3770 is better, but not by much. Single core is 11% faster, while multi-core is 40% faster. It also has hyperthreading, while the i5 doesn't.

[XeanWolf20]

Hey dude, me peronally i would stay with what you, 3770k is DDR3 so older ram, the newer I5 will be better as game optamisation is better as it's newer and programs and other things will be opterminsed more for the newer CPU. 6400 is good enough my friend has the 3770k honestly stay with what you have. you save money and plus more features on the new CPU, if you upgrade again you already have the DDR4 so you won't need to upgrade much.

 

i would really recommend getting 6600k if you want to upgrade it's 19% better, you can overclock it better then ivy bridge so it can be even better then that, it maybe more but the performance boost is so much more worth, you wont need new RAM motherboard you can keep everything and still get better CPU.

[owluitar]

Those two processors aren't even the same socket.....

[Light-Yagami]

4 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That's not bad at all, I have a friend that still runs a 3770K and a 1080 SLI. The extra 8Gb of memory will come in handy too.

There's a difference between the "K" and "non K" version. 

3770k still is a great chip when you overclock it.You can overcome the lack of IPC by increasing clocks. With the non K version tho, you're stuck to somewhere around

R5 1500x performance. And that's not good for 1080p 144hz gaming.

 

You'll be bottlenecked by CPU, just a warning. Not my a lot, but definitely noticeable

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, XeanWolf20 said:

Hey dude, me peronally i would stay with what you, 3770k is DDR3 so older ram, the newer I5 will be better as game optamisation is better as it's newer and programs and other things will be opterminsed more for the newer CPU. 6400 is good enough my friend has the 3770k honestly stay with what you have. you save money and plus more features on the new CPU, if you upgrade again you already have the DDR4 so you won't need to upgrade much.

 

i would really recommend getting 6600k if you want to upgrade it's 19% better, you can overclock it better then ivy bridge so it can be even better then that, it maybe more but the performance boost is so much more worth, you wont need new RAM motherboard you can keep everything and still get better CPU.

Actually the exact opposite is true. As time goes on, games are using more and more threads and as it stands a 4c/4t CPU is already a limitation compared to a locked hyperthreaded quad core. A 3770 is a bit faster in single core performance and it also has much better multi core performance. The 3770 is all around better than a 6400. Whether or not it's worth upgrading to depends on the users specific needs.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Light-Yagami said:

There's a difference between the "K" and "non K" version. 

3770k still is a great chip when you overclock it.You can overcome the lack of IPC by increasing clocks. With the non K version tho, you're stuck to somewhere around

R5 1500x performance. And that's not good for 1080p 144hz gaming.

 

You'll be bottlenecked by CPU, just a warning. Not my a lot, but definitely noticeable

I know there's a difference lol. It's still not a bad CPU, I'd still want one.

[Light-Yagami]

13 minutes ago, Busconian said:

Right now I have an i5 6400 with 8GB of DDR4 memory. (2x4GB)

Now I have the potential to get an i7 3770 for dirt cheap from my school. 16GB of RAM as well. It would cost me about $150 bucks to get it running. 

So should I make the swap for a while? I have a GTX 1080 and I play at 1080p 60hz, soon to be 144hz. I play CSGO, PUBG, Overwatch, GTA, Battlefield 4. So mostly everything.

I advise you to not buy an older chip that you already have. Look towards upgrading to kabylake i5 (8600k, 8400), those chips make a lot more sense. 

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

I wouldn't do it the i5 will be just as fast or even faster in games compared to the old i7. Wasted money 

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, Light-Yagami said:

I advise you to not buy an older chip that you already have. Look towards upgrading to kabylake i5 (8600k, 8400), those chips make a lot more sense. 

An 8400 doesn't make all that much more sense compared to a 3770 (in terms of raw cpu performance -- other factors can  of course change things). It's about 10% faster in single core performance, but very similar in multi core performance. But an 8400 also costs a lot more.

 

3 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

I wouldn't do it the i5 will be just as fast or even faster in games compared to the old i7. Wasted money 

The 3770 is actually all around better. It's clocked 15%~ higher with a 15%~ IPC deficit while having 4 extra threads. 

[Light-Yagami]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I know there's a difference lol. It's still not a bad CPU, I'd still want one.

I'm sorry, I quoted you by mistake..

Yes, it's a quadcore with hyperthreading. That's cool. It's old though.. there's no denying that. Some people will still go for it, some won't..

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Light-Yagami said:

I'm sorry, I quoted you by mistake..

Yes, it's a quadcore with hyperthreading. That's cool. It's old though.. there's no denying that. Some people will still go for it, some won't..

I have an A6-5400K, almost anything is an upgrade for me haha

[STRMfrmXMN]

3 minutes ago, Light-Yagami said:

There's a difference between the "K" and "non K" version. 

3770k still is a great chip when you overclock it.You can overcome the lack of IPC by increasing clocks. With the non K version tho, you're stuck to somewhere around

R5 1500x performance. And that's not good for 1080p 144hz gaming.

 

You'll be bottlenecked by CPU, just a warning. Not my a lot, but definitely noticeable

A 1500X is not a 144Hz 1080P bottleneck. Source: used a 4770S for a long time in 144Hz Overwatch and PUBG with a GTX 970, obviously nothing is gonna get 144 FPS with PUBG.

[dizmo]

2 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

A 1500X is not a 144Hz 1080P bottleneck. Source: used a 4770S for a long time in 144Hz Overwatch and PUBG with a GTX 970, obviously nothing is gonna get 144 FPS with PUBG.

I don't think saying you get 144hz in a single, easy to run title means that the 1500x will not bottleneck

 

[Light-Yagami]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I have an A6-5400K, almost anything is an upgrade for me haha

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Light-Yagami said:

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I feel your pain, I'm hopefully making the jump to Coffee Lake or Skylake/Kaby Lake this year

[Light-Yagami]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I feel your pain, I'm hopefully making the jump to Coffee Lake or Skylake/Kaby Lake this year

 

On a serious note, I'm glad for you. Coffee lake is a good push forward compared to anything that came out in the last 4-5 years.

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

 

The 3770 is actually all around better . It's clocked 15%~ higher with a 10%~ IPC deficit while having 4 extra threads. 

i7 3700 gets its ass whooped by the i5 in games  (I can use smileys too honey). Slower ram, slower IPC. You can't just say because it has 15% clock speed vs 10% IPC it's overall better. it is not linear you should know that. Along with a cost of $150 for less fps no thanks. OP would regret switching 

[79wjd]

Just now, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

i7 3700 gets its ass whooped by the i5 in games  (I can use smileys too honey). Slower ram, slower IPC. You can't just say because it has 15% clock speed vs 10% IPC it's overall better. it is not linear you should know that. Along with a cost of $150 for less fps no thanks. OP would regret switching 

You're right, it's not linear, and I clearly said that there are other factors to consider before upgrading to it from a 6400. However, single core performance will still end up being within margin of error between the two but you also end up with the massive advantage that those extra threads offer -- better minimums and better averages in many newer titles. Plus Slower memory is NEVER going to make up for the difference between 4c/4t and 4c/8t going forward.