can vega 56 run 4k med. 60fps?

[mr anderson]

i found a good combo if it comes back in

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3683947

I need opinions on the GPU and the monitor

and whether the GPU can handle the monitor @ medium/high settings 60fps

[Enderman]

Depends on the game.

[mr anderson]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

Depends on the game.

well in general like hard to run games

GTA V, battlefeild 1&4 ect

 

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, mr anderson said:

well in general like hard to run games

GTA V, battlefeild 1&4 ect

 

More like medium-low rather than medium-high.

[mr anderson]

Just now, Enderman said:

More like medium-low rather than medium-high.

do you think is worth it or should i stick with 1440p, the monitor is whats motivating me, its 10bit and quantum dot, i couldn't find any 1440p monitor in the same category

[mr anderson]

3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

More like medium-low rather than medium-high.

most modern games look fine though even when they're at low-medium

and would you say 8GB of ram would be fine i really don't want to upgrade

[mr anderson]

thank you

[BeefyMeats]

I have a zotac 1080 and powercollor vega64. The vega64 does worse in GTA5 by a small margin on 1080p ultra everything.

[Phate.exe]

A Vega 56 can absolutely handle 4K60 at reasonably high settings.

 

You can generally think of it as an R9 Fury with double the memory and 40-50% higher clockspeed.

 

I use my Fury Nitro at 4K, and with the exception of Watch Dogs 2 and PUBG, I have very little difficulty keeping things in the 50's (with freesync things are plenty smooth as long as I keep it over 45fps) with pretty looking graphics.  The biggest problem I have is running out of vram.

 

I'm waiting to see what the aftermarket Vega 56's end up being like before upgrading.  Sapphire could literally just slap the Fury Nitro cooler onto a shortened Vega 56 card (modified for Vega's different VRM layout), and I'd buy one in a heartbeat.  Which is pretty much what I'm hoping for, since I can't fit a Morpheus 2 in my case.

[Enderman]

2 hours ago, Phate.exe said:

I use my Fury Nitro at 4K, and with the exception of Watch Dogs 2 and PUBG, I have very little difficulty keeping things in the 50's (with freesync things are plenty smooth as long as I keep it over 45fps) with pretty looking graphics.  The biggest problem I have is running out of vram.

OP said 60fps, not 45.

 

2 hours ago, Phate.exe said:

A Vega 56 can absolutely handle 4K60 at reasonably high settings.

Go take a look at some benchmarks, at high settings the minimum fps drops below 60 in almost every intensive game, and the average is often below 60fps as well.

If OP wants a consistent 60fps without stuttering or frame drops then he will be playing at medium settings, not high or ultra.

 

 

[Princess Luna]

Fear not!

 

[Phate.exe]

2 hours ago, Enderman said:

OP said 60fps, not 45.

 

Go take a look at some benchmarks, at high settings the minimum fps drops below 60 in almost every intensive game, and the average is often below 60fps as well.

If OP wants a consistent 60fps without stuttering or frame drops then he will be playing at medium settings, not high or ultra.

Right.  I've looked at benchmarks, they're almost always done with things turned way up past the point of diminishing returns.  I said "reasonably high settings" on purpose.  I get 45fps with a mix of medium and mostly high settings is on the Fury, a card from 2015 that barely cracks 1000MHz, and most of the time graphics settings need to be turned down due to running out of memory, which I can't do anything about.  A Vega 56 has about the same clock-for-clock performance as my card, but will clock 50% higher.  Sure, it's not gonna scale linearly, but between the clockspeed and not running out of vram 60fps is no problem.

 

You're acting like stuff is gonna be unplayable, and shit like this is why everybody thinks they need to buy a 1080ti for $700+.  If all you're gonna do is push all the sliders to the right, well yeah, of course performance is gonna tank.  But while there might be a large difference in quality between low and medium, or even medium and high, there's not a large perceptible difference between high and very high, and even less between as you get to the maximum settings.

 

Spend ten minutes tuning the settings, get your 60 fps, barely notice the difference in quality, if at all.  @Princess Cadence linked a video that goes into far more detail.

[jeremymwilson]

3 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Fear not!

 

Couldn’t agree more. An extreme example perhaps, but I recently played gta online on my skylake integrated graphics as I had sold my 1080 and was waiting for my 1080Ti to arrive. Had to drop settings to lowest and play at 900p resolution but it was absolutely fine. Of course I could notice the graphical differences but playing on a Vega 56 or Nvidia equivalent, you can easily play at  4K at a great frame rate and with settings that still look awesome. 

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, Phate.exe said:

Right.  I've looked at benchmarks, they're almost always done with things turned way up past the point of diminishing returns.  I said "reasonably high settings" on purpose.  I get 45fps with a mix of medium and mostly high settings is on the Fury, a card from 2015 that barely cracks 1000MHz, and most of the time graphics settings need to be turned down due to running out of memory, which I can't do anything about.  A Vega 56 has about the same clock-for-clock performance as my card, but will clock 50% higher.  Sure, it's not gonna scale linearly, but between the clockspeed and not running out of vram 60fps is no problem.

 

You're acting like stuff is gonna be unplayable, and shit like this is why everybody thinks they need to buy a 1080ti for $700+.  If all you're gonna do is push all the sliders to the right, well yeah, of course performance is gonna tank.  But while there might be a large difference in quality between low and medium, or even medium and high, there's not a large perceptible difference between high and very high, and even less between as you get to the maximum settings.

 

Spend ten minutes tuning the settings, get your 60 fps, barely notice the difference in quality, if at all.  @Princess Cadence linked a video that goes into far more detail.

I don't think you understand the difference between "high" and "ultra".

Ultra is pushing all the sliders to the right.

None of the benchmarks I showed you were at ultra.

If you look at ultra benchmarks then even the 1080ti can't do 4k 60fps.

[Phate.exe]

56 minutes ago, Enderman said:

I don't think you understand the difference between "high" and "ultra".

Ultra is pushing all the sliders to the right.

None of the benchmarks I showed you were at ultra.

If you look at ultra benchmarks then even the 1080ti can't do 4k 60fps.

I don't think you understand the graphs you posted.

 

The first ones you posted appear to be at ultra settings.  Very high/ultra, all features enabled pretty much translates to "all sliders to the right, they don't always call it ultra so we won't either".  The Metro Last Light benchmarks I have no clue, you just posted a bar graph with any useful information or context cropped out.  On Rise of the Tomb Raider, Very High is the highest quality preset, with a handful of additional settings (purehair, soft shadows, etc) that have an additional notch to go up.

 

Read/watch literally any optimization guide.  There are some settings that hit the gpu HARD despite offering very little improvement in quality outside of static screenshots.  It's just silly to see a card struggle at the highest settings and extrapolate that you're gonna have to drop things to low in order to hit 60fps.

 

 

[idiotstick]

10 hours ago, jeremymwilson said:

Couldn’t agree more. An extreme example perhaps, but I recently played gta online on my skylake integrated graphics as I had sold my 1080 and was waiting for my 1080Ti to arrive. Had to drop settings to lowest and play at 900p resolution but it was absolutely fine. Of course I could notice the graphical differences but playing on a Vega 56 or Nvidia equivalent, you can easily play at  4K at a great frame rate and with settings that still look awesome. 

Yeah joker did a similar video.