Build change... again

[Lurick]

38 minutes ago, xDyl said:

Personally, I am kind of opposed to the 8400, especially since UserBench on paper says the i3 is better by 5%..? http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i3-8350K/3939vs3935

Those are not gaming benchmarks, those are synthetics.

In most gaming benchmarks I'm looking at they are within 1-3 FPS of each other or the 8400 is ahead when you have games that can utilize more cores, and that's all with the 3850K boosted way up to the 4.9 to 5GHz mark. At stock for both chips the 8400 is definitely ahead.

[xDyl]

Just now, Lurick said:

Those are not gaming benchmarks, those are synthetics.

In most gaming benchmarks I'm looking at they are within 1-3 FPS of each other or the 8400 is ahead when you have games that can utilize more cores, and that's all with the 3850K boosted way up to the 4.9 to 5GHz mark.

But you also have to remember with a nice OC the i3 can get to 4.5-4.7GHz. Aren't most games still around quad-core?

 

Also, I should mention: the games I would be playing for the first few weeks after I'd build would be Euro Truck Simulator 2, BeamNG.drive, Stardew Valley, and Gmod. Obviously I would buy more intense games since I would have a powerful PC.

[Lurick]

1 minute ago, xDyl said:

But you also have to remember with a nice OC the i3 can get to 4.5-4.7GHz. Aren't most games still around quad-core?

 

Also, I should mention: the games I would be playing for the first few weeks after I'd build would be Euro Truck Simulator 2, BeamNG.drive, Stardew Valley, and Gmod. Obviously I would buy more intense games since I would have a powerful PC.

I called it out in my response, most benchmarks show the 3850 at around the 4.8GHz mark. The question is, how much cooling power do you need to push it that far compared to the 8400 which can keep up just as well at stock?

[xDyl]

17 minutes ago, Lurick said:

I called it out in my response, most benchmarks show the 3850 at around the 4.8GHz mark. The question is, how much cooling power do you need to push it that far compared to the 8400 which can keep up just as well at stock?

Yeah, I understand. I dislike the 8400 just because of it's clock. My *laptop* has a faster core clock and I would feel like I wouldn't be going anywhere with the PC (obviously I would), but I would prefer starting with the 8350K as my first build so I get the chance to try out overclocking and other things like that.

[seon123]

24 minutes ago, xDyl said:

Yeah, I understand. I dislike the 8400 just because of it's clock. My *laptop* has a faster core clock and I would feel like I wouldn't be going anywhere with the PC (obviously I would), but I would prefer starting with the 8350K as my first build so I get the chance to try out overclocking and other things like that.

Your laptop has a faster clockspeed than 4.0 GHz? Newer Intel CPUs have a bigger gap between base and boost clocks to have a low TDP

[Daniel Z.]

1 hour ago, xDyl said:

Personally, I am kind of opposed to the 8400, especially since UserBench on paper says the i3 is better by 5%..? http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i3-8350K/3939vs3935

The 8400 does better in real world stuff. 8400 is much better because more games are using multiple cores.

[xDyl]

Just now, seon123 said:

Your laptop has a faster clockspeed than 4.0 GHz? Newer Intel CPUs have a bigger gap between base and boost clocks to have a low TDP

No, was talking about the 2.8GHz base clock, sorry for the confusion.

[xDyl]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

The 8400 does better in real world stuff. 8400 is much better because more games are using multiple cores.

Yeah, I can see that from a standpoint. I guess my whole side is that I'd want to be able to experiment with OC and other things more.

[i_build_nanosuits]

6 minutes ago, xDyl said:

No, was talking about the 2.8GHz base clock, sorry for the confusion.

i explained to you waht this baseclock mean and why you will never see that CPU run that low while gaming.

 

In reality, if you don't do AVX instruction based workload you can consider the 8400 as a 3.6ghz base and 4.0ghz boost CPU.

[xDyl]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i explained to you waht this baseclock mean and why you will never see that CPU run that low while gaming.

 

In reality, if you don't do AVX instruction based workload you can consider the 8400 as a 3.6ghz base and 4.0ghz boost CPU.

Okay. Basically what CPU I buy is all going to come down to a few things: 1. What CPU MicroCenter has (if either) when I'm Black Friday shopping, or 2. What price they are and if either is in stock if I miss Black Friday. If the 8400 is available I'll purchase that, if the 8350K is available and the 8400 isn't I'll buy that. If for some insane reason the 8600K is on sale I'll buy that. I'm not really trying to set things in stone, I'm just trying to put together a rough plan.