Build change... again

[xDyl]

Hello LTT community once again!

 

Since a few of my expensive build plans and confirmations, I've received a MacBook Pro, so I have no need to blow a ton of money into necessary parts for, well, you know what. Although, with it being a 2012 with a weak GPU, I still need a gaming PC, and building one would be a fun experience for me. Story-time over, let's get to my current plan:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.28 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $989.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-11 23:53 EST-0500

 

So, obviously these prices will go down in a few days with Black Friday around the corner, so I may or may not upgrade components due to more premium parts costing less than what they are now. But, this is my plan as of today, so I'd like to have some input.

 

I do not mind if you change this build around, I just have two things I'd like to stay the same: Only Intel CPUs, and no 1060 3/6GB GPU. Everything else, go right ahead.

 

I already have a PSU, case, fans, and HDD, so no need.

[Damascus]

Meh cpu, IMO the 8400 is a better choice

[xDyl]

5 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Meh cpu, IMO the 8400 is a better choice

TBH if I am going locked SKU, I'd rather get the 8500 if it ever releases, but like I kinda wanted to start with the 8350K and possibly get the 8700K eventually.

[dizmo]

Looks fine. I'd personally go with an Asus motherboard, but that's more down to personal preference. I'd go with faster RAM, something in the 3000 range. I think the 8350k is a good choice, but if you're playing on a 1080p/60hz monitor the 8100 might be an even better idea if you're planning on upgrading later.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, xDyl said:

TBH if I am going locked SKU, I'd rather get the 8500 if it ever releases, but like I kinda wanted to start with the 8350K and possibly get the 8700K eventually.

This really is a better pick, you see a lot of games still only go as far as quadcore usage. The i3 8350k is an i5 7600k literally so you're good to pair a 1070 Ti with for gaming, overclock it for high frequencies that will matter, sure the 4c/4t config will have you closing programs when you go to game but that's fine for temporary solution.

 

Make the straight jump from the i3 to the i7 also is a delightful upgrade jump but only do it if you'll get a 1080 Ti down the road as any thing below is fine with the 8600k

[Damascus]

5 minutes ago, xDyl said:

TBH if I am going locked SKU, I'd rather get the 8500 if it ever releases, but like I kinda wanted to start with the 8350K and possibly get the 8700K eventually.

Eh, I personally would never get a 4c/4t cpuin 2017, considering r5 and the 8th gen i5s exist

[xDyl]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Looks fine. I'd personally go with an Asus motherboard, but that's more down to personal preference. I'd go with faster RAM, something in the 3000 range. I think the 8350k is a good choice, but if you're playing on a 1080p/60hz monitor the 8100 might be an even better idea if you're planning on upgrading later.

Will be playing on a 1080/60Hz monitor, although I may be gifted a 1440p/60Hz monitor for Christmas, I've been hinting toward it. What do you think?

 

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

This really is a better pick, you see a lot of games still only go as far as quadcore usage. The i3 8350k is an i5 7600k literally so you're good to pair a 1070 Ti with for gaming, overclock it for high frequencies that will matter, sure the 4c/4t config will have you closing programs when you go to game but that's fine for temporary solution.

 

Make the straight jump from the i3 to the i7 also is a delightful upgrade jump but only do it if you'll get a 1080 Ti down the road as any thing below is fine with the 8600k

Don't really think I can afford a 1070 Ti right now, but 1070 just squeaks in. When I upgrade, I was planning on either the 8600k or 8700k with 1080 or 1080 Ti. Coming from dual-core laptops I don't think I'll really mind lmfao.

[xDyl]

3 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Eh, I personally would never get a 4c/4t cpuin 2017, considering r5 and the 8th gen i5s exist

Remember, this isn't the 1337 gaming PC or anything, it's a first gaming PC. With any hope I will eventually upgrade to an 8700K / 1080 (Ti ?), so I don't really mind. Coming from dual-core laptops it wouldn't bother me either.

[Daniel Z.]

2 minutes ago, xDyl said:

Will be playing on a 1080/60Hz monitor, although I may be gifted a 1440p/60Hz monitor for Christmas, I've been hinting toward it. What do you think?

 

Don't really think I can afford a 1070 Ti right now, but 1070 just squeaks in. When I upgrade, I was planning on either the 8600k or 8700k with 1080 or 1080 Ti. Coming from dual-core laptops I don't think I'll really mind lmfao.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($468.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1002.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-12 00:24 EST-0500

[LeBigMac506]

You can snag an 850 evo ssd for $2 more right now. Other than that, I'd prefer ASrock over GB and ddr3000 is only a few $ more. 

 

Maybe even grab something like a 7500, and put the cash saved from z370 and aftermarket cooling towards a 1070ti/1080 if you're going 1440p.

 

Otherwise that's a nice build for 100+hz 1080p. What monitor, case and PSU?

[Princess Luna]

Just now, xDyl said:

Don't really think I can afford a 1070 Ti right now, but 1070 just squeaks in. When I upgrade, I was planning on either the 8600k or 8700k with 1080 or 1080 Ti. Coming from dual-core laptops I don't think I'll really mind lmfao

If I were you I'd get a LG 29UM69-G with a RX 580 4gb, it will be by the 1060 6gb performance, true, however you'll get a much better display that can do 2560x1080p85hz and FreeSync.

 

The display is so good it can still be used justified by a 1080 Ti later so you only have expense on monitor once, the rx580 should be cheaper too and tons easier to resell later when you want to upgrade.

 

Don't worry about the performance gap between the 580 and the 1070 much, think this as an investment besides any decent card can game any thing:

 

[xDyl]

1 minute ago, Daniel Z. said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($468.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1002.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-12 00:24 EST-0500

TBH I don't really like the idea of going for a locked i5, especially at 2.8GHz. I'd rather put in a 8600k/1070 for $1,000.

 

1 minute ago, LeBigMac506 said:

You can snag an 850 evo ssd for $2 right now. Other than that, I'd prefer ASrock over GB and ddr3000 is only a few $ more. 

 

Maybe even grab something like a 7500, and put the cash saved from z370 and aftermarket cooling towards a 1070ti/1080 if you're going 1440p.

 

Otherwise that's a nice build for 100+hz 1080p. What monitor, case and PSU?

Okay, will change to 850. Personally, I just wanted some RGB and thought the mobo looked nicer than the AsROCK, but usually I'd go with them too. I think I want to stick with 8th gen, and not worry about LC because I hate water and electronics. (I have some bad stories). I think I am going to stick with 1080p until I buy a 1080/ti.

 

My dad has an old chassis sitting around with an Athlon XP 2100+ and some NVIDIA card that I will gut. He has a 850W PSU in it that has barely any usage, dad never really used that PC anyways. Monitor is shitty Viotek 32" TN 1080p lmao. Hopefully buying a U2417H sooner or later here.

[xDyl]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If I were you I'd get a LG 29UM69-G with a RX 580 4gb, it will be by the 1060 6gb performance, true, however you'll get a much better display that can do 2560x1080p85hz and FreeSync.

 

The display is so good it can still be used justified by a 1080 Ti later so you only have expense on monitor once, the rx580 should be cheaper too and tons easier to resell later when you want to upgrade.

 

Don't worry about the performance gap between the 580 and the 1070 much, think this as an investment besides any decent card can game any thing:

 

I don't really want a 29" monitor, I hate how large my 32" is right now. Although, I may stick with a 1070, but if prices inflate I know I'll have the 580 as my go-to. You may be correct about resell, though.

[dizmo]

8 minutes ago, xDyl said:

Will be playing on a 1080/60Hz monitor, although I may be gifted a 1440p/60Hz monitor for Christmas, I've been hinting toward it. What do you think?

Tough call. If you don't know if you're getting the monitor I'd go with the K or the i5. The clock speed will overcome most shortcomings. If you were sticking with 1080p60 I'd just get the 8100.

11 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Eh, I personally would never get a 4c/4t cpuin 2017, considering r5 and the 8th gen i5s exist

Depending on his monitor, you don't really need anything more...eg 1080p60

Unless he was planning to keep it long term, but even then upgrading later will be quite cheap.

4 minutes ago, LeBigMac506 said:

Maybe even grab something like a 7500, and put the cash saved from z370 and aftermarket cooling towards a 1070ti/1080 if you're going 1440p.

Whyyy would you ever recommend the 7500. The 8100 would make so much more sense.

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If I were you I'd get a LG 29UM69-G with a RX 580 4gb, it will be by the 1060 6gb performance, true, however you'll get a much better display that can do 2560x1080p85hz and FreeSync.

What's the FreeSync range on it though? I was stoked when I saw that the 43" LG had FreeSync, and appalled when I saw that it was 56 - 61. Making it virtually useless.

[LeBigMac506]

I'm a fan of my g257hu smidpx, it OC's to 76-82hz nicely as well.

 

I'd go 7500 because you can pair it with a B series Motherboad.

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, xDyl said:

I don't really want a 29" monitor, I hate how large my 32" is right now. Although, I may stick with a 1070, but if prices inflate I know I'll have the 580 as my go-to. You may be correct about resell, though.

If your 32" monitor is 16:9, the 29" 21:9 is a completely different beast. It's about the size of a 24" monitor only wider.

[xDyl]

Just now, dizmo said:

Tough call. If you don't know if you're getting the monitor I'd go with the K or the i5. The clock speed will overcome most shortcomings. If you were sticking with 1080p60 I'd just get the 8100.

I think I'll go for the 8100, but should I stick with the 1070 or go with the Ti?

 

1 minute ago, LeBigMac506 said:

I'm a fan of my g257hu smidpx, it OC's to 76-82hz nicely as well.

I'll check it out, although I kinda have my heart set on an UltraSharp monitor.

[xDyl]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

If your 32" monitor is 16:9, the 29" 21:9 is a completely different beast. It's about the size of a 24" monitor only wider.

TBH it probably is. I kinda have my heart set on a Dell UltraSharp though ;p

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

What's the FreeSync range on it though?

Up to 75hz

[dizmo]

2 minutes ago, xDyl said:

I think I'll go for the 8100, but should I stick with the 1070 or go with the Ti?

There was a fellow on Reddit selling one for $100/shipped. Might as well save the $20 to put towards something else, like the Ti?

2 minutes ago, xDyl said:

TBH it probably is. I kinda have my heart set on a Dell UltraSharp though ;p

Why an Ultrasharp? I like the sexy slim bezels, but I'd go with one of their gaming monitors to take advantage of GSync.

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Up to 75hz

From? LG has put out a lot of monitors with utter garbage ranges.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, dizmo said:

From? LG has put out a lot of monitors with utter garbage ranges.

It is written on the users manual of the monitor which I happen to own myself

 

Never tried it out to know though as I am nVidia only for y graphics cards [:

[xDyl]

Just now, dizmo said:

There was a fellow on Reddit selling one for $100/shipped. Might as well save the $20 to put towards something else, like the Ti?

Why an Ultrasharp? I like the sexy slim bezels, but I'd go with one of their gaming monitors to take advantage of GSync.

Oh shit, I completely forgot about G-SYNC. Let me look into some 1080p monitors and report back. I use reddit all the time, but for this build I want to buy purely new.

 

Update:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($128.89 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.28 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($469.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $988.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-12 00:40 EST-0500

 

Went from 8350K to 8100, and to 1070Ti. Do you think the 8100 will be a bottleneck to the 1070Ti?

[i_build_nanosuits]

40 minutes ago, xDyl said:

I do not mind if you change this build around, I just have two things I'd like to stay the same: Only Intel CPUs, and no 1060 3/6GB GPU. Everything else, go right ahead.

 

I already have a PSU, case, fans, and HDD, so no need.

this would be better

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($28.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 HD3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $975.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-12 00:42 EST-0500

[xDyl]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

this would be better

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($28.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 HD3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $975.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-12 00:42 EST-0500

Don't really like the 8400's clock, and I'll be upgrading to the 8700K eventually. Also, my list above is $988 with a 1070Ti and the motherboard I prefer, so.