Upgrading terrible PC

[DataPurged]

Hey guys I was hoping if you could help me upgrade my PC so I could get 1080p 60fps gaming on medium to High settings

My current build is

-AMD FX-4100

-MSI GT 630 4GB

-4GB of 1333mhz DDr3 Ram 2 sticks 8GB in total

-2 500GB HDD 7200 RPM ST500DM002-1BC142

-MSI 970A-G43 PLUS

 

I don't need any type of peripherals such as Monitor Mouse keyboard or a Wirless NIC

 

My budget is 400$ I have a great case and a 650w corsair psu so no need for an upgrade. Note I am fine if I blow a lot on the GPU and then when I have more  money I'll upgrade the MOBO so that i can get newer architecture for CPU and get DDR4 RAM

 

 

Thanks -Data

 

[themctipers]

GTX 1070

 

look at ryzen 5 later, look into buying a ssd NOW 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

GTX 1070

 

look at ryzen 5 later, look into buying a ssd NOW 

This,

 

Also look into overclocking your memory to 1600Mhz instead of 1333Mhz

[ACEHACK]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

This,

 

Also look into overclocking your memory to 1600Mhz instead of 1333Mhz

1070ti is the same price

[themctipers]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

This,

 

Also look into overclocking your memory to 1600Mhz instead of 1333Mhz

i still run 1333mhz because my chipset is dying. help. 

[teo_1221]

yes, get an ssd, it really doesnt matter which one because the average user cant really distinguish a diference between most mainstream ones, just choose how much of a capacity you want, as for a graphics card i think a gtx 1070 is a bit overkill, get an evga superclocked 1060 3gb or 6gb depending on your budget.

 

[Radium_Angel]

The SSD won't help really.

If your chipset is dying, the last thing you'd want to do is try to overclock anything, that's just begging for trouble.

Your CPU is nearing on 7 years old. A better video card will certainly help, but if the chipset is going south, then the motherboard isn't far behind, so I'd put your money towards fixing that part first...

[teo_1221]

1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

The SSD won't help really.

If your chipset is dying, the last thing you'd want to do is try to overclock anything, that's just begging for trouble.

Your CPU is nearing on 7 years old. A better video card will certainly help, but if the chipset is going south, then the motherboard isn't far behind, so I'd put your money towards fixing that part first...

i guess maybe getting a motherboard and cpu would be priority, i'd suggest an asus prime b350 plus, and a ryzen 3 1200 for now which have a good upgrade path of their own.

[DataPurged]

Just now, Radium_Angel said:

Just now, Radium_Angel said:

The SSD won't help really.

If your chipset is dying, the last thing you'd want to do is try to overclock anything, that's just begging for trouble.

Your CPU is nearing on 7 years old. A better video card will certainly help, but if the chipset is going south, then the motherboard isn't far behind, so I'd put your money towards fixing that part first...

Thanks for the reply. i have looked upon the FX series since i have a AM3+ socket but the very latest ones are known to be very hot and not worth it such as the Fx-9590, the GPU ive been eyeing at the EVGA GTX 1060 SSC 3GB model since i wont be needing a 1070 ti or non ti. Thanks -Data

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

11 minutes ago, DataPurged said:

 

My budget is 400$ I have a great case and a 650w corsair psu so no need for an upgrade. Note I am fine if I blow a lot on the GPU and then when I have more  money I'll upgrade the MOBO so that i can get newer architecture for CPU and get DDR4 RAM

 

 

Thanks -Data

 

spend the extra few $$ its worth every penny...maybe get a GTX 1050 if the 1050ti is too far off

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($109.77 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($122.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($142.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $425.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-04 23:27 EDT-0400

[DataPurged]

1 minute ago, teo_1221 said:

i guess maybe getting a motherboard and cpu would be priority, i'd suggest an asus prime b350 plus, and a ryzen 3 1200 for now which have a good upgrade path of their own.

I've been thinking about that also but it comes to mind that if i get a GPU then i can put that into a future build, if i get a ryzen 3 then i need a new mobo and DDR4 RAM thus increasing my CPU power but not letting me game 

[Radium_Angel]

4 minutes ago, DataPurged said:

I've been thinking about that also but it comes to mind that if i get a GPU then i can put that into a future build, if i get a ryzen 3 then i need a new mobo and DDR4 RAM thus increasing my CPU power but not letting me game 

Yes but you fry the whole system due to a bad motherboard...where does that leave you?

[aisle9]

16 minutes ago, DataPurged said:

Hey guys I was hoping if you could help me upgrade my PC so I could get 1080p 60fps gaming on medium to High settings

My current build is

-AMD FX-4100

-MSI GT 630 4GB

-4GB of 1333mhz DDr3 Ram 2 sticks 8GB in total

-2 500GB HDD 7200 RPM ST500DM002-1BC142

-MSI 970A-G43 PLUS

 

I don't need any type of peripherals such as Monitor Mouse keyboard or a Wirless NIC

 

My budget is 400$ I have a great case and a 650w corsair psu so no need for an upgrade. Note I am fine if I blow a lot on the GPU and then when I have more  money I'll upgrade the MOBO so that i can get newer architecture for CPU and get DDR4 RAM

 

 

Thanks -Data

 

1. GTX 1050 Ti (~$130)

2. 250GB SSD (~$80)

3. R5 1400, B350 mobo and 16GB DDR4 picked up over time as deals and/or used parts appear

[teo_1221]

4 minutes ago, DataPurged said:

I've been thinking about that also but it comes to mind that if i get a GPU then i can put that into a future build, if i get a ryzen 3 then i need a new mobo and DDR4 RAM thus increasing my CPU power but not letting me game 

if you do get gpu then get a 3gb gtx 1060 ssc like you said

[DataPurged]

Just now, Radium_Angel said:

Yes but you fry the whole system due to a bad motherboard...where does that leave you?

Sorry for being newbie but why would that fry the system is the mobo that bad that the GPU could overwhelm the system? -Thanks

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

Yes but you fry the whole system due to a bad motherboard...where does that leave you?

Huh? A bad motherboard is not likely to take the whole system with it. Power supplies will do that, but the OP has a (presumably, might be a VS) Corsair.

[DataPurged]

Also the games i would be playing would be mostly GTA, ARK(i know its terribly optimized but i would mostly play with another friend on a 2 player server idc if its only 30fps on medium) and CSGO 

[teo_1221]

the MSI 970A-G43 PLUS is an older board but it still shouldn't be too overwhelmed to fry itself from a 1060

[NewHopeTech]

The CPU is bad, but if you have $400 I'd go with a GTX 1060 6GB and an SSD. Worry about the cpu and motherboard as soon as you have some extra cash.

[LogicWeasel]

If I were in OP's shoes I'd pounce on a well-priced (maybe factory overclocked) GTX 1060 6GB and save the rest of the money for the CPU/Mobo/RAM overhaul that is due for that system as we know what a CPU weakness that FX-4100 poses for his desire to play GTA well (CSGO probs won't care much).  Alternatively if future money is real tight it may be a good alternative option if you found a good gently-used deal on an RX 470/480/570/580 such as used or "gently mined on."  I don't mean to spin off an entire debate on "should you buy a Polaris that was mined on" but if the price is right, and the card runs, it'd still be in the range of the 1060 performance-wise, plus have free-sync options down the line for CSGO and such.

The SSD and CPU upgrade should come when budget allows, I agree with what everyone's said about the SSD, just get a size that works for you (at minimum it should fit Windows and a couple games you'd like premium loading times in).  If you're lucky maybe when it comes time to buy a new CPU/Mobo package the non-Z370 mobos will be out for coffee lake as that may offer more long-term value than Ryzen 5 (getting a board cheaper than Z370 and pairing with a nice quad or six-core Coffee Lake should offer a system that may age-out better than Ryzen as you get much higher IPC and equal or better multi-core performance per $).

[suh))))))))))))]

i recommend u start fresh and use this used pc part "list"

1. sell everything (except case and psu)

2. Follow this list of parts https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ytrhVY

[suh))))))))))))]

also that used gtx 780 is very close to the gtx 1060 3gb

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, suh)))))))))))) said:

also that used gtx 780 is very close to the gtx 1060 3gb

That's not even remotely true.  It crushes a 780 (and 780 Ti).

[suh))))))))))))]

yep totally http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB/2164vs3646

ok the 1060 3gb beats it by a whole 9% when ur buying it for 70$ less

9% is pretty close imo

 

also the 780 ti beats the 1060 3gb http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB/2165vs3646

Quote

 

 

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, suh)))))))))))) said:

yep totally http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB/2164vs3646

ok the 1060 3gb beats it by a whole 9% when ur buying it for 70$ less

9% is pretty close imo

 

also the 780 ti beats the 1060 3gb http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB/2165vs3646

 

That site is total bullshit lmao.