i swear survival game makers are dumb

[ArcThanatos]

Ok so the 3 games i tagged have all suffered from idiot devs, my biggest complaint about survival games is really going to be what the devs actually do in these games, RUST for starters WAS one of the most popular games before the devs messed with the BP system. rather than consult the player base they upped and removed it along with other things in the game which pissed players off. 7 days to die had the mining system completely destroyed stupidly, rather than do some digging and have a great place to set up shop. they came along and ruined it, put in some stuff that would of made the game fun.... had they not completely made it a pain in the ass to build and setup a base because the mining was ruined. now my most recent survival i have been playing is empyrion galactic survival... enter the moron devs. the game has bugs... alot of them... but among all the things that wasn't buggy was the mining. mining was perfectly fine!. it was actually the only thing that worked perfectly stable..... soooo they ruined it. but that wasnt enough, they changed recipes for ammo. it now uses Prothieum for all ammo types where it use to be magnesium.... now you can use magnesium foooooooor.... oh wait its bearly used for anything... but thats ok, now your fuel source that powers ships, mining equipment and ships is now also used for all ammo types, completely over taxing 1 resource to hell and back. besides people complaining about this there isn't going to be a roll back. there isn't even a fix in sight. what this is thou is annoying beyond belief. they haven't fixed a bloody thing they just changed a few things and made it garbage. fly thru the green wall and hop out of your ship and it jumps 600meter in the air and not come down... stiff shit. they wont fix that. POIs not respawning like they are suppose to still. ships turning random stuff off while flying is now something my ships suffer from thou since last update. thats alot of fun when being shot at and your ship loses the ability to fucking turn. or the thrusters just turn off making you have to go into the ships control panel and manually turn on all the shit it just turned off.
so here is something i still haven't figured out.... why do devs and designers for games... not bother looking at what other games done wrong and avoid that. and why do they not ask people what needs to be fixed\changed in the game rather than be more blind then ray Charles and run headlong into game breaking ideas and ruin something people like... ... honestly wish at times there was a community based government for some of these games to stop devs from ruining their own creation. 3 games i have enjoyed alot have all suffered from devs making massively game breaking choices and then ignoring the fact they have done this... keep running with it. rant over... but hey if anyone feels the same please speak up, has anyone else been apart of a fun game that received stupid choices from devs that never get resolved  ?

[Clockwork_princess]

they have their own ideas just like we have ours, and they do what they want not what we want. it is their game after all. 

[Nexxus]

Ellipses are best used sparingly.

Paragraphs are best used. 

[ArcThanatos]

but our money. when they make game breaking choices its not like a community shouldn't be aloud to ask for things to be fixed. and changing shit in a game that ruins it then not fix that. idgaf if they own it, its not a good enough reason to ruin it. it might be a game as you say. but if apple or samsung decided to release a phone breaking update no one would sit quietly for that. as is people are pissed off about the no headphone jack. im not saying the people should govern the show. but if you spend the money on a product, you shuold have some say especially if a company still has some control over your said product. other wise you are just renting something that a company can decided to just break on you because they had a  "great" idea... then not fix it on you.. thats the problem, with online games you are effectively just renting in to it. the devs can change stuff at will and ruin it and you are now left with a product thats not what you brought. if they improve it great! but if they break it an act like nothing happened you are effectively out of pocket

[dizmo]

Part of me wants to read that, but the other part looks at the lack of capitalization and the excessive use of ellipsis makes me ant to vomit.

[m0k]

9 minutes ago, ArcThanatos said:

other wise you are just renting something that a company can decided to just break on you because they had a  "great" idea

you wouldnt spend a dime on anything in the future  if you read the licence agreements for the games you bought

 

we agree with you - games are broken - there will be public dissatisfaction 

best thing you can do is not support that game dev in the future

[ArcThanatos]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Part of me wants to read that, but the other part looks at the lack of capitalization and the excessive use of ellipsis makes me ant to vomit.

yeah i am not great with my whole layout and correct style of writting, i am a mechanically minded person, id much rather weld stuff together rather than sit and read up on how to write stuff properly. but hey i can understand the whole wanting stuff to be properly done, but than again i also don't care if you aren't going to vomit because i wrote in a way that upsets you

[ArcThanatos]

1 minute ago, mok said:

you wouldnt spend a dime on anything in the future  if you read the licence agreements for the games you bought

 

we agree with you - games are broken - there will be public dissatisfaction 

best thing you can do is not support that game dev in the future

im guessing in the EULA  it is written "devs can fuck this game up at will and will not apologise for it nor fix it"
but it is a very sad truth that alot of them show very little care about the player base. its not like people didn't straight up complain about these things. Rust changed some many things in such a short time that thousands of people left. JRust was a great server when i played, then they changed the game style from BP hunting to XP. not only was the XP system garbage. but servers straight up died out, so they changed it to another type of XP system. and kept changing it until they went back to the BP system. but damage is already done. they removed other stuff like the snow fields, pumpjacks and various other changes that people loved. 

 

7dtd needs its mining system back and they whole item crafting system as well. 

empyrion was great but they have over taxed a resource. and due to planets being PVE or PVP, if you want to force people off their PVE planet, just strip mine it. which isn't hard. resources dont respawn in that game. and POIs sometimes respawn. they need to fix these things up. but no, they over taxed a already hard resource to get even with auto miners as it was slower than all the rest, but also used for things like bases and ships. now throwing ammo into the mix, removing the ability to tell auto turrets from targeting cores. so you cant leave ur vehicles near a base without it wasting ammo trying to shoot at the core. you have to completely turn off the ship, which means it will be destroyed when a drone comes along because it cant defend itself. stupid devs not listening to player base is killing games. honestly you would think if they were into games and wanting it to be better, listening to a player base would be a great place to start rather than tank your already small player base. that wont earn you money or credibility 

[Froody129]

I feel like this belongs in a status update... what are we meant to do about it?

[xAcid9]

Early access, early access & early access, nuff said.

[ArcThanatos]

On 02/11/2017 at 11:27 PM, xAcid9 said:

Early access, early access & early access, nuff said.

true enough, but still not a good enough reason to neglect the obvious problems that plague the game.

[Ominous]

I get where you are coming from but it is still their game and they can work on what they want to work on.  Small bugs are usually fixed when the really need to be fixed and creating a game that can actually be played properly and fairly is usually a higher priority.

 

And as already said, most survival games are in early access and still need to be worked on.  I still doubt Rust will leave early access anytime soon because they have great ambitions for the game, it just takes time.