client computer build for 4k movies but not gaming

[clutchmaster]

ok for some reason my clients computer is struggling to play 4k movies on his 4k tv i want to avoid buying anymore new parts but i suspect that hes gonna need to get another graphics card. im thinking on a gtx 1050ti 
and getting a long enough displayport cable with an hdmi 2.0 adaptor.

system specs:
windows 7 64bit
intel core-i5 7400 kaby lake
Patriot Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) 2133mhz ddr4
asrock h110m-dvp
gigabyte radeon r7 350 2 gigabyte vram [no extra power connections]
650 watt power supply
he is using an old 35-45 foot hdmi cord
and a cheap $15 sound card but he uses an audio switcher to switch to hdmi audio when using his 4k tv
the tv only has hdmi ports

[TheNaitsyrk]

2 minutes ago, clutchmaster said:

ok for some reason my clients computer is struggling to play 4k movies on his 4k tv i want to avoid buying anymore new parts but i suspect that hes gonna need to get another graphics card. im thinking on a gtx 1050ti 
and getting a long enough displayport cable with an hdmi 2.0 adaptor.

system specs:
windows 7 64bit
intel core-i5 7400 kaby lake
Patriot Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) 2133mhz ddr4
asrock h110m-dvp
gigabyte radeon r7 350 2 gigabyte vram [no extra power connections]
650 watt power supply
he is using an old 35-45 foot hdmi cord
and a cheap $15 sound card but he uses an audio switcher to switch to hdmi audio when using his 4k tv
the tv only has hdmi ports

GPU is definitely the problem. 1050 or 1050 ti will be perfect.

 

https://forums.evga.com/GTX-1050-4k-60Hz-over-HDMI-support-m2646477.aspx

[Lurick]

The fact that the card only supports resolutions up to 2560x1600 or 2048x1536 (according to this link: http://www.gigabyte.us/Graphics-Card/GV-R735OC-2GI-rev-10#sp) might explain it

 

Definitely a 1050, or even a 1030, should do the job.

[Glenwing]

Try running it on integrated graphics first before buying a new GPU.

[Lurick]

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

Try running it on integrated graphics first before buying a new GPU.

Good idea, I keep forgetting iGPU, lol.

 

So long as the board as a Display Port, it can do 4K at 60Hz, or 4K at 24Hz without it.

[Himommies]

Get him a xbox

1 minute ago, Himommies said:

Xbox One S Battlefield 1 Edition @199

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Microsoft-Xbox-One-S-500GB-Battlefield-1-Special-Edition-Bundle-Storm-Grey-ZZG-00028/54946638

I would get it even if you just need a entertainment system

[RadiatingLight]

yeah that GPU is really old.

1050Ti for max performance, but even a 1050 could easily rip through 4K playback

[moltencrystal]

id say lower than a 1050 if it is only for 4k vid playback as the onboard decoding, cause if not gaming then theres not really much point spending out on a card that costs extra to not be used

[Ashleyyyy]

yeah, a 1050 is MORE than fine for 4k movies. 

 

i have one, and i can play slightly older games in nvidia surround on 3 1080p displays, effectively 3K...

 

just make sure that the card you get has the right versions of displayport and the correct max resolution (varies by card and brand of the card)

[Ashleyyyy]

Just now, moltencrystal said:

id say lower than a 1050 if it is only for 4k vid playback as the onboard decoding, cause if not gaming then theres not really much point spending out on a card that costs extra to not be used

a 1050 is MUCH faster than a 1030 or something. and way better value. 

[moltencrystal]

1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

a 1050 is MUCH faster than a 1030 or something. and way better value. 

maybe so, but a client will always like to see a smaller bill rather than a larger one

[Ashleyyyy]

1 minute ago, moltencrystal said:

maybe so, but a client will always like to see a smaller bill rather than a larger one

true, but i would pick a 1050 over a 1030 any day of the week. 

 

[paddy-stone]

10 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

Try running it on integrated graphics first before buying a new GPU.

 

9 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Good idea, I keep forgetting iGPU, lol.

 

So long as the board as a Display Port, it can do 4K at 60Hz, or 4K at 24Hz without it.

^This

 

Also, as it's an HTPC, is he playing the videos directly or from a NAS?  and if so is he using kodi or plex? or something else?

I love plex, but I have found out recently that a few of my 4k vids almost max out my server 90% approx, when playing them through plex. Those same files, played on the same device, but using kodi does nothing to my server at all, it's still like 2-4% usage. And this is on an i7 6700K at stock, with nothing else running at the time of the testing... server is running freenas with no problems whatsoever.

I'm not asking for help here, I have tried many things with the plex settings to see what the problem is... and it even won't play it sometimes if I set it to force direct play instead of transcoding.

Anyway, this was just a heads-up to say that if you want a no hassle playback for 4K I would highly suggest Kodi as it will direct play without any involvement from the user.

I always used to use Kodi anyway, ever since xbox original days (XBMC)... at least when it was finally available for PCs that is, took a few years IIRC. So since that incident a few days ago I am now using BOTH kodi and plex, plex for TV shows and most movies in case I decide to stop and continue on another device or whatever, and Kodi for 4k playback.

[moltencrystal]

me to, i just know that saying you need a 75 dollar gpu is a lot easier than a 150 dollar gpu

[Himommies]

2 minutes ago, moltencrystal said:

me to, i just know that saying you need a 75 dollar gpu is a lot easier than a 150 dollar gpu

1050 not worth it.Just get a Xbox for a extra 40 bucks.It's a lot better value

[moltencrystal]

Just now, Himommies said:

1050 not worth it.Just get a Xbox for a extra 40 bucks.It's a lot better value

if the client has asked for a PC for 4k playback you are not going to do well giving them an xbox

[Himommies]

Just now, moltencrystal said:

if the client has asked for a PC for 4k playback you are not going to do well giving them an xbox

You are going to get a much better experience on XBOX and your probably going to buy a Xbox controller anyways

[moltencrystal]

Just now, Himommies said:

You are going to get a much better experience on XBOX and your probably going to buy a Xbox controller anyways

that's your opinion, but as a seller you at least try and deliver what the client wants. 

 

If you ordered an xbox off amazon and amazon delivered a ps4 because they thought it was better for a certain use, you would have every right be annoyed and want a refund/ replacement as it wasn't what you ordered. If the client here wanted a PC for 4k playback then thats what you deliver

[brob]

H110-DVP motherboard has DVI-D and D-Sub ports, no HDMI or DP. It supports up to 1080p.

 

Best solution seems to be replacing the gpu. 

[clutchmaster]

all video is off of the computer with a 2 terabyte hdd plus a dying 1 terabyte hdd, OS drive is a 250gb ssd

[clutchmaster]

im currently deciding on the 
EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 GAMING
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487295
EVGA GeForce GT 1030 SC
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487358

[clutchmaster]

and i believe he has replaced the hdmi cable he hasnt updated me on that though plus he plans on running all his cables under the floor though the basement so his hdmi cable will be more then 50 feet so im thinking hes gonna have to consider going with shorter cables with a signal booster to conpensate

[clutchmaster]

hey brob do you think the gt 1030 sc will safice for this pc???

[brob]

Just now, clutchmaster said:

hey brob do you think the gt 1030 sc will safice for this pc???

Lucky I was online. If you want someone to get a notification either quote them or use @ followed by their username, case sensitive. As you type a list will popup, select the user from the list.

 

GT 1030 should suffice.

 

 

[clutchmaster]

@brob thanks for the info