General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[dexT]

2 minutes ago, Ground said:

@dexT And people are saying I have too many CPUs with 3 spares sitting around...

Do you have a 980X? I'd offer to give something to borrow it for a weekend but I'm kinda down to hardware I need. 

[Ground]

3 minutes ago, dexT said:

Do you have a 980X? I'd offer to give something to borrow it for a weekend but I'm kinda down to hardware I need. 

Nah, just cheap CPUs, an i7 930, Xeon E5620, E5620 and L5640. Don't really have the budget for higher end stuff; though I really want an W3680 at some point, probably sometime next year, together with some different cooling solution because air is boring

[dexT]

5 minutes ago, Ground said:

Nah, just cheap CPUs, an i7 930, Xeon E5620, E5620 and L5640. Don't really have the budget for higher end stuff; though I really want an W3680 at some point, probably sometime next year, together with some different cooling solution because air is boring

Nice, that Xeon looks awesome.

 

The only CPUs worth spending days benching are the 920 and 980X as these are the most popular so worth the most points on HWBOT. My 960 is going to get the treatment cause it's all I have. http://hwbot.org/user/knock/

[Intelfreak]

1 hour ago, dexT said:

Nice, that Xeon looks awesome.

 

The only CPUs worth spending days benching are the 920 and 980X as these are the most popular so worth the most points on HWBOT. My 960 is going to get the treatment cause it's all I have. http://hwbot.org/user/knock/

You want bench result from I7 920 and I7 980X? i can provide that if yes.

[dexT]

4 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

You want bench result from I7 920 and I7 980X? i can provide that if yes.

I need to bench them sub-zero myself.

[Intelfreak]

5 minutes ago, dexT said:

I need to bench them sub-zero myself.

Ah i see. I7 920 shut be easy catch (and remember to get DO revision of 920 cause they oc better, get les hot and need less voltage for same OC as CO revision needs), while I7 980X is more rare cause of new price back then.

[dexT]

Just now, Intelfreak said:

Ah i see. I7 920 shut be easy catch, while I7 980X is more rare cause of new price back then.

Yeah Im looking at getting a couple 920 this week. 980X is like the QX9650 I got, kinda hurts forking out that much money for a single older CPU that might not OC that far. Final CPU stepping is a must.

[Intelfreak]

5 minutes ago, dexT said:

Yeah Im looking at getting a couple 920 this week. 980X is like the QX9650 I got, kinda hurts forking out that much money for a single older CPU that might not OC that far. Final CPU stepping is a must.

Yeah alone I7 980X is still exspensive. Got mine in a bundle complete with CPU, mobo, ram and a that CPU cooler i have now to very good price of 228 USD or 1450 Dkr. including shipping. If not for that, i would properly today have a Xeon cpu from ebay.

[Evolution.]

4 hours ago, dexT said:

Stock cooler is for initial post test and troubleshooting. Here's my usual coolers 

 

That's nothing on the CPU collection. Here's what's out being used recently

I gotta post my CPU collection here sometime soon it's no where as valuable as yours though 

[dexT]

9 minutes ago, VenomZ_ said:

I gotta post my CPU collection here sometime soon it's no where as valuable as yours though 

Do it meng. Mine is really nothing compared the extreme edition collectors out there. I'm just a common bencher that got lucky over and over and happen to be one of the fastest peeps in the world.

[Ground]

@dexT How did the Benching session go?

[dexT]

42 minutes ago, Ground said:

@dexT How did the Benching session go?

Dinner and drank alcohol with friends so nothing

 

It sucks having a social life and a family/son when it comes to bench time

[dexT]

@Ground I'm starting. This isn't just benching a daily driver and takes a lot of time especially if a new mobo. Goes like

 

Install Windows XP from CD

Configure OS for max performance

Download/install drivers/utilities/benchmarks

Insulate mobo

Switch cooling to phase change

Overclock CPU

Bin DDR3

Overclock memory

Benchmark(cpu oc changes depending on bench)

Submit scores to HWBOT

Post here

 

Mostly bench late at night and early morning, if using dry ice and acetone it's a must to wait for when my family goes to bed. Usually go and rebench the next day or days later on dice.

 

[dexT]

Initial testing shows weak NB and CPU too hot for phase change on long multithreaded benches if I want a respectable score. Haven't binned the memory yet still trying to crack this BIOS 

[mat__man85]

Hi, Really glad that this thread has been started as it's very difficult to find up to date information on this platform now. It looks like my 980ti may be failing or the pcie slot in which it is mounted. If it is the latter and I require a new motherboard what are peoples opinions on current gen cpu's (8700K) in comparison to x58 using Xeon chips. Very hard to find performance comparisons. It would be a a large investment for a new system but if it is time then so be it as I've put savings aside for this eventuality having said that I've no real desire to drop £1000's without any gain when a 'new' x58 motherboard would only set me back £200 max. I have asked a similar question before on another area of the forum a little while ago but just got generic answers such as "you're getting bottlenecked" and should buy 1800X etc.. despite comfortably running ultrawide 1440P and supersampled VR. So I would be interested to see if anyone has any real life experience comparing the x58 platform to Kaby lake / Coffee lake or has used a higher performing GPU than a 980ti in x58.  

[NoxiousOdor]

1 minute ago, mat__man85 said:

Hi, Really glad that this thread has been started as it's very difficult to find up to date information on this platform now. It looks like my 980ti may be failing or the pcie slot in which it is mounted. If it is the latter and I require a new motherboard what are peoples opinions on current gen cpu's (8700K) in comparison to x58 using Xeon chips. Very hard to find performance comparisons. It would be a a large investment for a new system but if it is time then so be it as I've put savings aside for this eventuality having said that I've no real desire to drop £1000's without any gain when a 'new' x58 motherboard would only set me back £200 max. I have asked a similar question before on another area of the forum a little while ago but just got generic answers such as "you're getting bottlenecked" and should buy 1800X etc.. despite comfortably running ultrawide 1440P and supersampled VR. So I would be interested to see if anyone has any real life experience comparing the x58 platform to Kaby lake / Coffee lake or has used a higher performing GPU than a 980ti in x58.  

I don't have experience comparing the two but if you are happy with the performance then you might as well just a x58 motherboard. I have been on ebay a lot recently and you can get them for around $50-200 depending on how fancy you want it to be

[mat__man85]

Yeah, pretty happy with the performance. That's not to say there isn't room for more!. The draw for a new system would be for technologies not available on this platform such as M.2. But slightly faster storage isn't reason enough for the price. My next GPU upgrade would be a 1080ti I would suspect for more supersampling in Elite Dangerous on the Vive. Any severe bottlenecking on PCI 2.0, I can't say I've noticed anything on the 980ti but benchmarks seem to show a 20 - 30 % performance boost between the 980ti and 1080ti 

[Ground]

So, my L5640 has arrived and I've built it into my board. So far my first couple attempts haven't been successful; it just resets if I change the BCLK; I'll just let everything settle and try again soon. At first I forgot to turn on my monitor... great start to an overclocking session in the shape of a reset Bios...

[Zando_]

Just now, Ground said:

So, my L5640 has arrived and I've built it into my board. So far my first couple attempts haven't been successful; it just resets if I change the BCLK; I'll just let everything settle and try again soon. At first I forgot to turn on my monitor... great start to an overclocking session in the shape of a reset Bios...

RIP. Say, my 4 pack of e5620s came! I'm getting a server board from Elliot too, for messing around and stuff. If I can figure out how, I may swap one of the quad cores in for my 5675 and see how high I can OC. 

 

And switching the fan profile in the BIOS to turbo makes it so the hottest core gets to 56C. Think I should try my X5650 and see if it gets any better temps?

[NoxiousOdor]

4 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

And switching the fan profile in the BIOS to turbo makes it so the hottest core gets to 56C. Think I should try my X5650 and see if it gets any better temps?

56C on idle?

[Ground]

6 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

56C on idle?

I hope not if he is talking about an e5620. Mine does 60 under load at 1.5V Oo (yes I don't really care about risking that little guy)

[NoxiousOdor]

4 minutes ago, Ground said:

I hope not if he is talking about an e5620. Mine does 60 under load at 1.5V Oo (yes I don't really care about risking that little guy)

That poor cpu hahaha. My two x5690s are at default voltage and on idle they are around 30-40C and at full load they will be anywhere from 60-90C depending on how long they have been running. It takes about 8 hours at full load for my computer to heat the room enough for it to raise the temp of the cpus

[Ground]

1 minute ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

That poor cpu hahaha. My two x5690s are at default voltage and on idle they are around 30-40C and at full load they will be anywhere from 60-90C depending on how long they have been running. It takes about 8 hours at full load for my computer to heat the room enough for it to raise the temp of the cpus

 

Now that I got my board under control again (bad bios battery -.-)  I have switched my e5620 back to the L5640 I wanted to test today originally. Let's see if I can get a 2.26GHz CPU to 4+GHz

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

56C on idle?

56C under max load runnign back to back cinebench tests. This is my X5675.

[Ground]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

56C under max load runnign back to back cinebench tests. This is my X5675.

Oh, that is quite nice, sounds like you have some extra headroom there

 

Got my L5640 to 4.09 GHz - not quite where I wanted it (I was hoping for at least 4.2, but I can't even get 4.1 stable enough to run Cinebench):

 

 

...If only this board would run properly with the x56** Xeons...