General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Crunchy Dragon]

7 hours ago, GrockleTD said:

if anybody for some odd reason is seeking an x299 rig nowadays, there is a few motherboard options on ebay right now for roughly 120-140 US

I seriously considered picking one of those up, and then saving for a compatible CPU.

 

Asus X299-A was cheaper than most of the X99 boards I saw.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Installed a Big Chonker this morning.

 

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Installed a Big Chonker this morning.

He do be kinda chomk doe

[the pudding]

59 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Installed a Big Chonker this morning.

 

oh lawd he comin

[bimmerman]

dat rig doe

[Crunchy Dragon]

9 hours ago, bimmerman said:

dat rig doe

Dat lack of proper cable management doe

[GrockleTD]

considering pulling apart my x58 rig tomorrow to try just one more time to get my x5680 working

[Crunchy Dragon]

10 hours ago, GrockleTD said:

considering pulling apart my x58 rig tomorrow to try just one more time to get my x5680 working

Dewit

[the pudding]

im honestly tempted to shift off the ryzen kit and move back to X99 tbh, i miss my old 5960X (may it rest in peace) though the matx boards are silly hard to find :< 

 

[Zando_]

39 minutes ago, the pudding said:

im honestly tempted to shift off the ryzen kit and move back to X99 tbh, i miss my old 5960X (may it rest in peace) though the matx boards are silly hard to find :< 

 

Indeed. I did score an X99 Micro2 for $50 once tho. Had "bent pins", aka someone looked at the socket slightly wrong, I never saw or had any issues with it. @Damascus has/will have it now, I just sent it his way recently. So if you watch out you can find a deal on one, but most are stupidly expensive. The Micro2s seem to sit around $300-350, which is ludicrous. IDK how much Genes are but they're likely a lot too. ASRock and others can be cheaper though.

[the pudding]

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

Indeed. I did score an X99 Micro2 for $50 once tho. Had "bent pins", aka someone looked at the socket slightly wrong, I never saw or had any issues with it. @Damascus has/will have it now, I just sent it his way recently. So if you watch out you can find a deal on one, but most are stupidly expensive. The Micro2s seem to sit around $300-350, which is ludicrous. IDK how much Genes are but they're likely a lot too. ASRock and others can be cheaper though.

I wish we had those kinda deals here, i've gotten lucky with some stuff like that in the past, best that I've found on ebay so far is an asrock fatality thing i think, the little matx mostly red thing, but it's like 200 quid 

[Zando_]

25 minutes ago, the pudding said:

I wish we had those kinda deals here, i've gotten lucky with some stuff like that in the past, best that I've found on ebay so far is an asrock fatality thing i think, the little matx mostly red thing, but it's like 200 quid 

Eeeeh yeah that's not the best of deals. Time to invest that money in a Cerberus X instead then, then slap up to EATX boards in a case that is still smaller than most mATX cases (IIRC it's 19.5L or so, fits in the loose "under 20L" definition of SFF)

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Indeed. I did score an X99 Micro2 for $50 once tho. Had "bent pins", aka someone looked at the socket slightly wrong, I never saw or had any issues with it. @Damascus has/will have it now, I just sent it his way recently. So if you watch out you can find a deal on one, but most are stupidly expensive. The Micro2s seem to sit around $300-350, which is ludicrous. IDK how much Genes are but they're likely a lot too. ASRock and others can be cheaper though.

Gigabyte and lower end/midrange Asus boards were where I tended to see most of the deals.

 

EVGA boards were all stupidly expensive, probably due to EVGA having less market share in the motherboard space.

[Zando_]

9 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

EVGA boards were all stupidly expensive, probably due to EVGA having less market share in the motherboard space.

That and they're usually high end boards. The Classifieds/Darks are Rampage series competitors, the Micro2 is competing with, possibly better than, the Gene. EVGA has less and less of a low end as time goes on lol. Lowest boards they've had more recently are FTW and FTW Ks. I assume high prices are due to that, the fact that they do perform very well as OC boards, and mebbe a little because they're less common. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

15 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

That and they're usually high end boards. The Classifieds/Darks are Rampage series competitors, the Micro2 is competing with, possibly better than, the Gene. EVGA has less and less of a low end as time goes on lol. Lowest boards they've had more recently are FTW and FTW Ks. I assume high prices are due to that, the fact that they do perform very well as OC boards, and mebbe a little because they're less common. 

I saw an X99 FTW-K that I really wanted, but it was like $300 or so.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I saw an X99 FTW-K that I really wanted, but it was like $300 or so.

Yeahh.. I got one of those for $50 once. By accident, I was supposed to get a Micro2, so I sent it back and got the mATX board lol. A smart businessman would have kept the FTW-K, sold it, then bought the Micro2 and profited lol. They're essentially a better featured Classy but with a slightly worse VRM. Actually have a proper PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 slot though, vs the x2 on the Classified. Neither is really a direct competitor to the Rampages funnily enough, the Rampage has always been a very good OC board but also with allll the features. Similar to MSI's Godlike, I think those boards still drive a pretty penny too (IIRC they did have an X99 version). Whereas the FTW K is the creature comforts and the Classified is more focused on overclocking. And is also an earlier board. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

10 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeahh.. I got one of those for $50 once. By accident, I was supposed to get a Micro2, so I sent it back and got the mATX board lol. A smart businessman would have kept the FTW-K, sold it, then bought the Micro2 and profited lol. They're essentially a better featured Classy but with a slightly worse VRM. Actually have a proper PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 slot though, vs the x2 on the Classified. Neither is really a direct competitor to the Rampages funnily enough, the Rampage has always been a very good OC board but also with allll the features. Similar to MSI's Godlike, I think those boards still drive a pretty penny too (IIRC they did have an X99 version). Whereas the FTW K is the creature comforts and the Classified is more focused on overclocking. And is also an earlier board. 

Godlike Gaming is a uhhhh.....not very pretty board

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/X99A-GODLIKE-GAMING.html

 

But yes, X99 Godlikes do exist.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Godlike Gaming is a uhhhh.....not very pretty board

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/X99A-GODLIKE-GAMING.html

 

But yes, X99 Godlikes do exist.

Ohhh yeah I forgot they were red red. Probably look less bad in a rig though . The Carbon tho:

 

[the pudding]

13 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Eeeeh yeah that's not the best of deals. Time to invest that money in a Cerberus X instead then, then slap up to EATX boards in a case that is still smaller than most mATX cases (IIRC it's 19.5L or so, fits in the loose "under 20L" definition of SFF)

ehh im not really chasing SFF so much, I just really like the NR400 and have some plans for a nice water loop in one of those  

[the pudding]

Honestly I might even consider stepping back to like, a nice water loop and an X58/X79 system, as powerful as the ryzen is and all, it's just, well, just not all that much fun 

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, the pudding said:

Honestly I might even consider stepping back to like, a nice water loop and an X58/X79 system, as powerful as the ryzen is and all, it's just, well, just not all that much fun 

Same problem I ran into lmao. I had a 2700X on a Crosshair VII, at one point on a custom loop too. So badass spec but just... not fun. I moved back to my X58 stuff, then eventually to X99. 

If this is going to be your main rig, I'd recommend going no further back than X79. All the lads took a hard hit with spectre/meltdown nerfs, X79 is the oldest that'll run new games properly. X58 is too slow unless you're running super CPU-light/e-sports kinda stuff. 

[the pudding]

14 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Same problem I ran into lmao. I had a 2700X on a Crosshair VII, at one point on a custom loop too. So badass spec but just... not fun. I moved back to my X58 stuff, then eventually to X99. 

If this is going to be your main rig, I'd recommend going no further back than X79. All the lads took a hard hit with spectre/meltdown nerfs, X79 is the oldest that'll run new games properly. X58 is too slow unless you're running super CPU-light/e-sports kinda stuff. 

yeah, X79 is a good move on that front really, if i sold my 2700, board, ram, case etc I reckon i could get say 350 quid, there's a rampage 4 gene on ebay for 175, on the steep end but I could sort the rest with what's left, 3930K for 60 quid, ram isn't expensive for 16gb worth, case for 50 and then start saving for water, might mean dropping back down to say 30 frames for my stream stuff but I'm still tiny so that's fine either way XD 

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, the pudding said:

yeah, X79 is a good move on that front really, if i sold my 2700, board, ram, case etc I reckon i could get say 350 quid, there's a rampage 4 gene on ebay for 175, on the steep end but I could sort the rest with what's left, 3930K for 60 quid, ram isn't expensive for 16gb worth, case for 50 and then start saving for water, might mean dropping back down to say 30 frames for my stream stuff but I'm still tiny so that's fine either way XD 

 3930K is excellent, they're known to clock very very well. I have a 4930K, it's ticking away at 4.5GHz with 1.33v or so rn, I haven't put in the time to fine tune it yet. Runs Destiny 2 pretty well with my 1660 Ti though, I only get drops to 58-64fps or so in heavy areas (I run a 75Hz monitor). 

[bimmerman]

Yea. I like my X58 stuff but it's....definitely vintage at this point. Fun to mess around with but its use cases are vanishing.

 

Still going full pants-on-head with the SR-2 and likely with a custom loop.....but....going full loop on my ryzen system would be smarter. As would lighting bills on fire.

 

kinda excited to see what the SR-2 can do in Doom with 2x R9 290. cuz why the hell not.

[the pudding]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

 3930K is excellent, they're known to clock very very well. I have a 4930K, it's ticking away at 4.5GHz with 1.33v or so rn, I haven't put in the time to fine tune it yet. Runs Destiny 2 pretty well with my 1660 Ti though, I only get drops to 58-64fps or so in heavy areas (I run a 75Hz monitor). 

Yeah 3930K's are damn solid, not yet had one that wouldn't do 4.7GHz and have had a few do 5.1GHz daily with good cooling, and damn cheap too so if it degrades/dies it's not the end of the world either, for the games I play X58 is plenty enough cpu side but it wouldn't do too too well for the stream stuff so prolly go X79 either way, should be more fun than what I'm on now, some cheapy bykski/barrow blocks for the cpu/gpu and jobs a good en