$600 for a gaming setup

[NardDoge]

I need some help. I'm 17 yrs old and work at an ice cream store. Ive saved up around $600 for a new computer(Including monitor). I've been using a laptop most of my life and i think it's time to switch to a desktop. I have absolutely 0 experience with building computers so if any1 could give me any tips or links to pre-built computers I'd be so thankful. Thanks for your time in advance and goodnite

[LienusLateTips]

Location?

[dizmo]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman - ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($23.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - G236HLBbd 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $666.00

 

It's slightly over budget, but I'm sure waiting 2 weeks wouldn't hurt.
Also, don't buy now. Wait for Black Friday. You should be able to get a better system.

[unknownmiscreant]

4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman - ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($23.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - G236HLBbd 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $666.00

 

It's slightly over budget, but I'm sure waiting 2 weeks wouldn't hurt.
Also, don't buy now. Wait for Black Friday. You should be able to get a better system.

Go for a ryzen 3 1200. Bit cheaper, and can OC to 3.9GHz ish on stock cooling. If there is spare budget, step up to ryzen 5. A ryzen 3 1200 at 3.95GHz bottlenecks a GTX1050ti in intensive parts of games.

Also, 2666MHz RAM may be a better option. I bought 3000MHz ram for my brother's ryzen 3 build, and the machine will not post with more than 2666MHz memory.

 

I would consider a GTX1050ti over a 1060 3gb, as the extra VRAM can make a difference. Unless its more expensive.

[Fardin]

36 minutes ago, NardDoge said:

I need some help. I'm 17 yrs old and work at an ice cream store. Ive saved up around $600 for a new computer(Including monitor). I've been using a laptop most of my life and i think it's time to switch to a desktop. I have absolutely 0 experience with building computers so if any1 could give me any tips or links to pre-built computers I'd be so thankful. Thanks for your time in advance and goodnite

there you go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($109.86 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($71.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.67 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($146.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Deepcool - D-Shield ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC - I2269VW 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $645.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-24 23:54 EDT-0400

[dizmo]

20 minutes ago, unknownmiscreant said:

Go for a ryzen 3 1200. Bit cheaper, and can OC to 3.9GHz ish on stock cooling. If there is spare budget, step up to ryzen 5. A ryzen 3 1200 at 3.95GHz bottlenecks a GTX1050ti in intensive parts of games.

Also, 2666MHz RAM may be a better option. I bought 3000MHz ram for my brother's ryzen 3 build, and the machine will not post with more than 2666MHz memory.

 

I would consider a GTX1050ti over a 1060 3gb, as the extra VRAM can make a difference. Unless its more expensive.

It doesn't bottleneck. A G4560 doesn't even bottleneck a 1070.

Most builds are doing quite well from what I've seen, so you'd be the exception, not the rule.

It isn't only about VRAM, but how fast you can process that information, and the 1060 is simply a much, much better card.

[LienusLateTips]

5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

A G4560 doesn't even bottleneck a 1070.

Depends on resolution

[unknownmiscreant]

20 minutes ago, dizmo said:

It doesn't bottleneck. A G4560 doesn't even bottleneck a 1070.

Most builds are doing quite well from what I've seen, so you'd be the exception, not the rule.

It isn't only about VRAM, but how fast you can process that information, and the 1060 is simply a much, much better card.

Okay, fair enough. However my brother has a Ryzen 3 1200, GTX105ti system, almost identical to what is being proposed here. It is overclocked to 3.95Ghz, with 8gb 2666MHz RAM, and there is noticeable frame rate drops in the physics intensive parts of some games while running at 1080p.

 

Looking at the OSD, whenever the game starts lagging the CPU is running at 100% utilization. Putting the 1050ti in my ryzen 7 system gives a seamless experience, almost free of framerate drops, the GPU can maintain a solid 60fps with games on medium settings. Agreed the 1060 should be able to do this on high/very high.

 

The 1050ti was merely a suggestion, as I thought the overall experience may be better with a more powerful CPU and slightly less powerful graphics, as then games would not have frame rate dips.

[dizmo]

13 minutes ago, JDE said:

Depends on resolution

Obviously. Read in context. 

[NardDoge]

1 hour ago, JDE said:

Location?

South Carolina

[NardDoge]

51 minutes ago, dizmo said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman - ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($23.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - G236HLBbd 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $666.00

 

It's slightly over budget, but I'm sure waiting 2 weeks wouldn't hurt.
Also, don't buy now. Wait for Black Friday. You should be able to get a better system.

I have no freaking clue how to put that shit together

[dizmo]

4 minutes ago, NardDoge said:

I have no freaking clue how to put that shit together

Can you build a LEGO set?

[unknownmiscreant]

7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Obviously. Read in context. 

I agree that a G46505....whatever could maintain a 1070 at 100% utilisation most of the time, and maintain decent average framerates, even at 1080p. However there will be very little CPU power left over to handle physics intensive parts of games, so the minimum frame rate will be quite low, and drops quite frequent.

 

I'm not sure about the exact definitions of bottle necking, it seems to be argued alot. But in the case of my brother's system, in the more physics intensive parts of games, the CPU is limiting the performance of the GPU, causing frame rate drops.

 

Its may just be personal preference, but I much prefer gaming on a system where the GPU is the limiting factor, as then a very consistent frame rate is maintained.

[NardDoge]

14 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Can you build a LEGO set?

Is it that simple tho? ?

[unknownmiscreant]

1 hour ago, NardDoge said:

Is it that simple tho? ?

Basically yes. Watch a few youtube build guides first, and the tech quickie common PC building traps playlist.

 

If you follow those, you should be fine.

[NardDoge]

So say I could put it together, then I gotta install Windows and drivers right? What's the probability I can do this without breaking everything?

[dizmo]

10 hours ago, NardDoge said:

Is it that simple tho? ?

Yup. Easier, I'd say, considering there's very few parts.

As long as you're careful, don't force anything when it doesn't feel like it's going to fit, and watch a couple build videos, you'll be fine. If 5 year olds can learn how to do it, I'm sure you can.