What graphics card can my 8 year old PC support without too much bottlenecking?

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

2 minutes ago, Himommies said:

@W-L@Ryan_Vickers

You should probaly lock before yesterday repeats itself

If the CPU doesn not hit 99 percent then it is not a Cpu bottleneck

 

Why is this even a applicable statement.The 8350 hits 99 percent wheras the 4790k does not

in games where an 8350 would have 40fps and only 30% cpu usage

 

intel 4790k could have 80fps with 30% usage.... it doesnt matter believe as u want and lock is not required because i simply just ignore yo, u can believe what u want lmao im done with u

[Himommies]

Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

in games where an 8350 would have 40fps and only 30% cpu usage

proof?

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

that aint even a benchmark its just to compare

Dude its a set of benchmarks comparing against one another.  And it's a poor benchmark.

[W-L]

Alright keep to the original topic at hand now and stop the bickering, thread cleaned.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

4 minutes ago, Himommies said:

proof?

 

cpu usage WELL BELOW even 50% ect , intel ahead by FAR because of single thread performance, everyone knows in rendering that the 8350 is way stronger ( multithreaded ) aswell ... lol

[vanished]

5 minutes ago, Himommies said:

If the CPU doesn not hit 99 percent then it is not a Cpu bottleneck

that's not true, you can easily have a CPU bottleneck with less than 100% used.  Best way to judge a CPU bottleneck is actually with GPU usage.  You want to make sure GPU usage is hitting 100%.

 

Consider a game that only uses 4 threads running on an octa-core CPU.  It will show 50% usage but not be able to run the game any faster.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Himommies said:

I wish someone supported me yesterday

Don't look back, just keep swimming (Posting). We need more daily deals  

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

that's not true, you can easily have a CPU bottleneck with less than 100% used.  Best way to judge a CPU bottleneck is actually with GPU usage.  You want to make sure GPU usage is hitting 100%

^ THIS

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

Short said, is it worth for OP to upgrade hes 770gtx using hes i7 960.... NO IT IS NOT

 

he should upgrade hes cpu aswell if he wants a better gpu, because the 770 is already beeing bottlenecked in some parts with the i7 960

 

OP should save his money, dont waste any money on upgrades yet , and just upgrade when he actually does have a proper upgrade for it

 

unless OP wants to get a tiny improvements first in that case he can decide to buy a gpu first... but to get actual benefit of the new gpu op would need a better cpu

[Himommies]

Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

he should upgrade hes cpu aswell if he wants a better gpu

But that's a lot of money.A gpu upgrade would be much better for the price

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

3 minutes ago, Himommies said:

But that's a lot of money.A gpu upgrade would be much better for the price

i am recommended for op NOT to upgrade at all... nor buy a cpu or a gpu.... upgrade when he is ready in the future... op can easily last a few years with hes current set... i never stated he should BUY stuff... i am against OP buying stuff because if he buys a gpu he wont get the benefit from it that much, if he buys a cpu... neither will he get much benefit from it ( the bottleneck on the 770gtx isnt too heavy )   but the upgraded gpu will be bottlenecked by that cpu alot

 

even if it would be a better value to get a gpu first...

 

it is not recommended to buy anything... its not worth the money to upgrade the gpu even, all it does is make hes bottleneck worse

[Himommies]

Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

alot

haven't I already won this argument

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

3 minutes ago, Himommies said:

haven't I already won this argument

the fact that u even think of somthing like that seems weird. no u havent won anything because what u said wasnt true... truth is

 

that's not true, you can easily have a CPU bottleneck with less than 100% used.  Best way to judge a CPU bottleneck is actually with GPU usage.  You want to make sure GPU usage is hitting 100%.

 

Consider a game that only uses 4 threads running on an octa-core CPU.  It will show 50% usage but not be able to run the game any faster.

 

what @Ryan_Vickers  said

 

 

( pst stop beeing about winning arguments, this is not about winning arguments this is about FACTS )

[Herman Mcpootis]

well, this went to hell in a handbasket real fast. maybe argue in a PM instead? OP must be swarming with notifications all pointing to this argument.

[HKZeroFive]

Just get a GPU upgrade. Nobody is denying that there'll be numerous situations where you'll get a CPU bottleneck, but you're going to get a performance boost either way.

 

[Himommies]

1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

the fact that u even think of somthing like that seems weird. no u havent won anything because what u said wasnt true... truth is

 

that's not true, you can easily have a CPU bottleneck with less than 100% used.  Best way to judge a CPU bottleneck is actually with GPU usage.  You want to make sure GPU usage is hitting 100%.

 

Consider a game that only uses 4 threads running on an octa-core CPU.  It will show 50% usage but not be able to run the game any faster.

 

what @Ryan_Vickers  said

If your getting bad frames and you GPU isn't even at 80 percent then it obviously is a gpu bottlneck

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

Just get a GPU upgrade. Nobody is denying that there'll be numerous situations where you'll get a CPU bottleneck, but you're going to get a performance boost either way.

 

 

will op get a performance boost, yes

 

but his minimum fps will remain around the same(due to cpu bottlenecking), thus it wouldnt be worth the money

[ARikozuM]

The clean-up crew has arrived with supplies valuable info!

 

Never mind...

[Himommies]

Just now, HKZeroFive said:

but you're going to get a performance boost either way.

he's going to get a bigger boost with a gpu upgrade

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

1 minute ago, Himommies said:

If your getting bad frames and you GPU isn't even at 80 percent then it obviously is a gpu bottlneck

if u are having bad frames and ur gpu isnt even at 80% that means it is a CPU BOTTLENECK

100% gpu usage means its GPU bottleneck

 

lower then 100% means its a CPU bottleneck

[HKZeroFive]

Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

will op get a performance boost, yes

 

but his minimum fps will remain around the same(due to cpu bottlenecking), thus it wouldnt be worth the money

No offence, but I don't want to be roped into this argument.

[Himommies]

Just now, HKZeroFive said:

No offence, but I don't want to be roped into this argument.

Should I just stop?

 

Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

if u are having bad frames and ur gpu isnt even at 80% that means it is a CPU BOTTLENECK

100% gpu usage means its GPU bottleneck

 

lower then 100% means its a CPU bottleneck

So if I have a CPU at 1 percent and my GPU's at 100 then it's a CPU bottleneck?

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

2 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

No offence, but I don't want to be roped into this argument.

i dont see this as an argument, i simply correct things that are stated that are wrong information such as

 

if your cpu isnt 100% it doesnt bottleneck your gpu  < which is total bollocks for example
 

dw lol

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

1 minute ago, Himommies said:

Should I just stop?

 

So if I have a CPU at 1 percent and my GPU's at 100 then it's a CPU bottleneck?

NO THEN ITS A GPU BOTTLENECK LOL

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Himommies said:

Should I just stop?

Yes, please. 

Si, por favor. 

Hai, onegaishimasu.

Oui, s'il vous plait. 

 

French is the hardest for me to type out...