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Is there such thing as "reverse bottleneck"?

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So while researching the reasons why bottle necking occurs, I wondered if the process of the gpu not getting enough information can be reversed. (If the cpu is faster than the gpu.)

I ask this because I have a gtx 970 and I want to get a i7 7700k.

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That's still called a bottleneck.

A bottleneck is where one component holds back another.

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Just now, Lurick said:

That's still called a bottleneck.

A bottleneck is where one component holds back another.

So will the i7 7700k bottleneck the gtx970?

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So will the i7 7700k bottleneck the gtx970?

hell no 

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Just now, themctipers said:

hell no 

And by that response, you mean that they will be far from bottlenecking and I will achieve perfect performance from my 970?

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1 minute ago, Matoro said:

So will the i7 7700k bottleneck the gtx970?

but it's way overkill for just a 970.... even a kabylake pentium doesn't bottleneck a 970 in most games. gamersnexus tested it recently

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As mentioned, a bottleneck is anytime one component is holding back another component.  There can never be a "reverse bottleneck", whatever that would even be, and no matter what there always is some bottleneck somewhere because if there wasn't you would have infinite performance and fps.

 

1 minute ago, Matoro said:

And by that response, you mean that they will be far from bottlenecking and I will achieve perfect performance from my 970?

Yes, you should get unhampered performance from the 970

 

in this case, the 970 is your bottleneck (but then, a GPU bottleneck is the most common and usually what people shoot for).

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Just now, Matoro said:

And by that response, you mean that they will be far from bottlenecking and I will achieve perfect performance from my 970?

the best practice is to balance the two because one of them will always be a limiting factor. you want to have both CPU and GPU as close to full usage nott one at 100% and the other at 20%

 

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Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

As mentioned, a bottleneck is anytime one component is holding back another component.  There can never be a "reverse bottleneck", whatever that would even be, and no matter what there always is some bottleneck somewhere because if there wasn't you would have infinite performance and fps.

Yes but in my attempt to minimize the dropped fps, adding this overkill cpu will let me play at the most consistent frame rate. Correct?

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Just now, Matoro said:

Yes but in my attempt to minimize the dropped fps, adding this overkill cpu will let me play at the most consistent frame rate. Correct?

if anything get a better GPU and not a CPU

 

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1 minute ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

the best practice is to balance the two because one of them will always be a limiting factor. you want to have both CPU and GPU as close to full usage nott one at 100% and the other at 20%

 

So there will be a problem running these two components 

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Just now, Matoro said:

So there will be a problem running these two components 

there won't be a problem. it's just a big sum of money to a much smaller problem.

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1 minute ago, Matoro said:

Yes but in my attempt to minimize the dropped fps, adding this overkill cpu will let me play at the most consistent frame rate. Correct?

Well, I suppose.  But at this point you could really boost your FPS by upgrading to something like a 1080

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2 hours ago, themctipers said:

if anything get a better GPU and not a CPU

My cpu is dogshit I have to upgrade. I am thinking that adding the i7 7700k will future proof it until I get the gtx 1080 ti

2 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well, I suppose.  But at this point you could really boost your FPS by upgrading to something like a 1080

This doesnt solve the problem, adding frames to my unstable cpu is not going to work.

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This doesnt solve the problem, adding frames to my unstable cpu is not going to work.

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1 minute ago, Matoro said:

This doesnt solve the problem, adding frames to my unstable cpu is not going to work.

what CPU are we even talking about right now?

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Just now, RKRiley said:

What is said CPU?

Some i5, it really doesn't matter anyway

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1 minute ago, Matoro said:

This doesnt solve the problem, adding frames to my unstable cpu is not going to work.

Well if your CPU is unstable I'd suggest dialing back the overclock 

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Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well if your CPU is unstable I'd suggest dialing back the overclock 

Its not overclocked

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So the reason why a cpu being really weak while being paired with a high end cpu is that the gpu's performance is dependent on the cpu the reverse is not true however the gpu being weak would lower performance yes but it doesn't limit the cpu at all

 

So get the good cpu if your current one is trash

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Just now, Matoro said:

Its not overclocked

Then it must be damaged some how... have you sent excessive voltage through it?  Is it over heating?

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2 hours ago, Matoro said:

Some i5, it really doesn't matter anyway

it does matter you can get an i7 for your existing board instead of buying everything new

 

2 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well if your CPU is unstable I'd suggest dialing back the overclock 

he used the wrong language he just meant he and studders or something in game fps

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Just now, SquintyG33Rs said:

it does matter you can get an i7 for your existing board instead of buying everything new

Well if it is unstable it might be the moba anyway so it might be worth just outright upgrading

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Just now, AresKrieger said:

Well if it is unstable it might be the moba anyway so it might be worth just outright upgrading

yeah but bottom line it would take more investigation and it doesn't seem he realizes he has to buy a new system to buy a 7700k

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