Could You Do It Better

[RAM555789]

This is a bit of a challenge, I wanna see if any of you could make an equivalent or similar build for a cheaper, or about same price.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Gaming-Computer-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1505333300&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011

[Keppla]

Do not get a pre-built they are overpriced and you'd be better off making one yourself.

[Ryujin2003]

2 minutes ago, Keppla Gaming said:

Do not get a pre-built they are overpriced and you'd be better off making one yourself.

Not necessarily. Linus did that video way back with the Best Buy ASUS prebuilt and found the price to be a little better I believe because of the volume they are able to move.

[samcool55]

3 minutes ago, Keppla Gaming said:

Do not get a pre-built they are overpriced and you'd be better off making one yourself.

Unless you want one with an RX 570 or RX 580

 

[BLVCKRIPPER]

In my opinion the best part is to inform/ build/ troubleshoot after that come that you can save some bucks.

[RAM555789]

7 minutes ago, Keppla Gaming said:

Do not get a pre-built they are overpriced and you'd be better off making one yourself.

Well I did try on PCPartPicker, and was not able to get a better price, the point of this post is too see if any of you could do better.

[MageTank]

4 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

This is a bit of a challenge, I wanna see if any of you could make an equivalent or similar build for a cheaper, or about same price.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Gaming-Computer-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1505333300&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011

That price isn't bad at all for a pre-built. Hard to match it.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T8cvr7

 

I personally wouldn't go for it, due to the locked down H270 motherboard preventing both CPU and memory overclocking (not that you would make it too far on a 212 evo anyways), and the fact that PSU quality is not advertised. I would aim for a 500w gold at minimum if I were going for a high end gaming build with a GTX 1070. Still, trying to match or exceed that is difficult once you factor in cost of the OS. 

[RAM555789]

1 minute ago, MageTank said:

That price isn't bad at all for a pre-built. Hard to match it.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T8cvr7

 

I personally wouldn't go for it, due to the locked down H270 motherboard preventing both CPU and memory overclocking (not that you would make it too far on a 212 evo anyways), and the fact that PSU quality is not advertised. I would aim for a 500w gold at minimum if I were going for a high end gaming build with a GTX 1070. Still, trying to match or exceed that is difficult once you factor in cost of the OS. 

Yeah you could save $$ by buying it from Kingpin, nice build though, with some $$ saved from OS afford a better mobo.

[Shiv78]

Even without WIndows, it is pretty hard to beat, although the components I chose are much higher quality (likely better PSU, better GPU, better cooler, and a full ATX mobo that supports OCing)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($322.59 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($110.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($126.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($449.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master - Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($25.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1313.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-13 16:37 EDT-0400

3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

I personally wouldn't go for it, due to the locked down H270 motherboard preventing both CPU and memory overclocking (not that you would make it too far on a 212 evo anyways), and the fact that PSU quality is not advertised. I would aim for a 500w gold at minimum if I were going for a high end gaming build with a GTX 1070. Still, trying to match or exceed that is difficult once you factor in cost of the OS. 

wattage and efficiency =/= quality.

[MageTank]

Just now, Shiv78 said:

wattage and efficiency =/= quality.

Don't quite understand your reasoning behind telling me what I already know, but I'll give it an "okay" anyways  

[dizmo]

For an extra $100ish you can get a system with a 1080.
Not a terrible value for a prebuilt though.

[brob]

23 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

This is a bit of a challenge, I wanna see if any of you could make an equivalent or similar build for a cheaper, or about same price.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Gaming-Computer-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1505333300&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011

Issues I see with this box:

• mATX motherboard in an ATX case.
• no motherboard specs, does it use a z270 (or z170) chipset (looks very similar to an ASRock Pro motherboard except there is an Asus ROG logo on the rear i/o)
• USB WiFi adapater
• Deepcool cpu cooler
• no info on psu

[MageTank]

29 minutes ago, brob said:

Issues I see with this box:

• mATX motherboard in an ATX case.
• no motherboard specs, does it use a z270 (or z170) chipset (looks very similar to an ASRock Pro motherboard except there is an Asus ROG logo on the rear i/o)
• USB WiFi adapater
• Deepcool cpu cooler
• no info on psu

That is an ASrock H270M Pro4, have worked with it a few times. The rear IO is definitely confusing though. It is clearly an ROG logo with WiFi antenna's on the back, yet the cheapest ASUS motherboard that supports WiFi is ITX. The only non-ITX motherboards that support wifi by ASUS on 1151 (that are still currently sold on the market) are $180/$190 Strix boards. I highly doubt they splurged that much on the motherboard. What is more likely, is they are two different PC's that they are taking pictures of. It's not uncommon for ODM's to re-use the same chassis, but have different hardware inside of them. Perhaps they forgot to get a picture of the asrock board from behind, so they used images from a different, yet similar system to fill that in? Either way, certainly confusing, and potentially false advertisement if someone sees it and expects wifi on the rear I/O. 

[RAM555789]

12 minutes ago, MageTank said:

That is an ASrock H270M Pro4, have worked with it a few times. The rear IO is definitely confusing though. It is clearly an ROG logo with WiFi antenna's on the back, yet the cheapest ASUS motherboard that supports WiFi is ITX. The only non-ITX motherboards that support wifi by ASUS on 1151 (that are still currently sold on the market) are $180/$190 Strix boards. I highly doubt they splurged that much on the motherboard. What is more likely, is they are two different PC's that they are taking pictures of. It's not uncommon for ODM's to re-use the same chassis, but have different hardware inside of them. Perhaps they forgot to get a picture of the asrock board from behind, so they used images from a different, yet similar system to fill that in? Either way, certainly confusing, and potentially false advertisement if someone sees it and expects wifi on the rear I/O. 

I don't game on wifi unless I'm using my laptop anyways, plus the signal drops off in the room with my current PC in it. I have a 100ft Cat5 cable running to it.

[MageTank]

Just now, RAM555789 said:

I don't game on wifi unless I'm using my laptop anyways, plus the signal drops off in the room with my current PC in it. I have a 100ft Cat5 cable running to it.

That was not the point of my post. My post was in reference to the other guy asking what board it was. In one picture showing the side of the case, the motherboard is an ASRock H270M Pro4, but the rear I/O picture does not match that board, and shows both on-board wifi AND an ASUS ROG logo. 

[brob]

31 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

I don't game on wifi unless I'm using my laptop anyways, plus the signal drops off in the room with my current PC in it. I have a 100ft Cat5 cable running to it.

If the chipset is not z270, overclocking an i7-7700K cpu would not really be possible.

[Shiv78]

Just now, brob said:

If the chipset is not z270, overclocking an i7-7700K cpu would not really be possible.