Is a 1080 worth the upgrade from a 1080

[RonaldMcDank120]

I was wondering if it was worth the money to instead of getting the gtx 1080 get the gtx 1080ti?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Depends what you want to do. Gaming, probably not. Rendering, maybe. Depends on your CPU.

[RonaldMcDank120]

Just now, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Depends what you want to do. Gaming, probably not. Rendering, maybe. Depends on your CPU.

7700k and I do a lot of both.

[RonaldMcDank120]

Just now, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Depends what you want to do. Gaming, probably not. Rendering, maybe. Depends on your CPU.

btw you see that the razer site is down

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, RonaldMcDank120 said:

btw you see that the razer site is down

What does that have to do with GPUs?

[RonaldMcDank120]

just saying because your a razer fanboy.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, RonaldMcDank120 said:

just saying because your a razer fanboy.

Yeah true. Thanks. Probably down for maintenance.

[sazrocks]

resolution, refresh rate, and games?

[RonaldMcDank120]

Just now, sazrocks said:

resolution, refresh rate, and games?

144hz fps racing and free roam

[sazrocks]

Just now, RonaldMcDank120 said:

144hz fps racing and free roam

 

1 minute ago, sazrocks said:

resolution

And what racing/free roam games?

[RonaldMcDank120]

1080p fh3 beamng drive forza 7 gta 5 watchdogs 1/2 jc2/3 A LOT

[sazrocks]

1080p? I doubt you will get much improvement then.

[RonaldMcDank120]

Just now, sazrocks said:

1080p? I doubt you will get much improvement then.

aight thanks, saved me a ton its like a 200 dollar difference

[SilicateWielder]

42 minutes ago, RonaldMcDank120 said:

I was wondering if it was worth the money to instead of getting the gtx 1080 get the gtx 1080ti?

I was very confused reading your title.

[i_build_nanosuits]

48 minutes ago, RonaldMcDank120 said:

I was wondering if it was worth the money to instead of getting the gtx 1080 get the gtx 1080ti?

25-30% faster than 1080 depending on price and how much GPU horsepower you need might be worth it...only you know...

personally i rock this card and it works really well...good price in US right now

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125936&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

[RonaldMcDank120]

14 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

25-30% faster than 1080 depending on price and how much GPU horsepower you need might be worth it...only you know...

personally i rock this card and it works really well...good price in US right now

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125936&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I really prefer getting them from nvidia I think they look so much better

[i_build_nanosuits]

15 minutes ago, RonaldMcDank120 said:

I really prefer getting them from nvidia I think they look so much better

oh but they run so much hotter and louder and don't overclock/boost as well.

Especially if you go with the 1080ti stay away from the crappy reference blower cooler.

[MageTank]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

oh but they run so much hotter and louder and don't overclock/boost as well.

Especially if you go with the 1080ti stay away from the crappy reference blower cooler.

They OC fine, just not on the stock cooler 

 

18 minutes ago, RonaldMcDank120 said:

I really prefer getting them from nvidia I think they look so much better

Seriously, Pascal scales the best in regards to thermals. The lower your thermals, the higher it boosts/better overclocking headroom in general. Take @i_build_nanosuits advice and go for an aftermarket cooler. PCB design doesn't matter a whole lot, as you can use the XOC bios on a reference board and get some insane overclocks on a lot of aftermarket reference boards so long as thermals are kept in check. 

 

Another great thing about aftermarket cards with reference designs, is that if you do decide you need even better cooling, you can find plenty of water blocks or aftermarket AIO's that fit them perfectly. 

[TSL]

5 hours ago, RonaldMcDank120 said:

I really prefer getting them from nvidia I think they look so much better

Only buy the the reference cards if you need the blower style fan for a very small form factor, otherwise you're wasting your money

[Darkseth]

1080 ti CAN be up to 40% faster with the same Clock speed, since the Card has around 40% more Shader units.

This will happen in Games, that are very hard Shader-limited. Witcher 4 in 4k should be one of those.

 

In mere 1080p, you will already Push into fps regions, where your CPU (even an i7 7700k) might struggle to maintain the fps --> 1080 ti would be Bottlenecked. And not deliver 30-40% more performance, but only 20%, or only 15% faster. Which isn't worth the upgrade.

 

If you had WQHD (2560x1440), then yea, 1080 ti would be worth, since a 1080 will already struggle pushing 80+ fps in 1440p in certain Games.

 

All depends what settings you want, and what fps your Target si for a specific Game.

 

Check this Video here: 

He used BF1 multiplayer to test core scaling. He has an Haswell-E i7 5960X with 8-Cores and 16 Threads, O Ced to 4.5 Ghz. So still today, quite a Powerhouse, not just in Single Thread, but also in Multithread (that BF1 MP can use well).

 

He has a titan X(pascal), the one from August 2016 (NOT the new Xp, with a few more Shader cores and faster Memory), but Overclocked to 2025 Mhz with a strong Water loop.

 

First of all: You can see that your i7 7700k absolutely WILL bottleneck hard in 1080p here. Even if you have more than plenty fps, the CPU is bottlenecking (but still, since it's enough fps, no "problem").

Important: Also look at those Frametimes ^^ Lower the cores/threads, and frametimes get worse and worse.

 

 

Second, and this is more important for this Thread: Look at the Green "Last/Power". Last means usage%. Power means %age if Powerlimit used.

You can see, even with 170+ fps with al 8 Cores and 16 Threads, the  CPU is not fast enough to fully utalize 1 single Titan X (pascal) in 1080p.

 

And that means: A few % of the "additional Performance of a 1080 ti compared to 1080" is lost --> YOu don't get 30-40% more Performance, but only 20-30% or something like that (Numbers are jsut an Example)

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

If you don't like the orange on @i_build_nanosuits card

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HDvZxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-turbo-oc-video-card-gv-n1080ttoc-8gd

also it's $50 cheaper.

 

Conclusion : A 1080 is more than enough for 1080p 144hz.

[xsimplyjosh]

i get approx 120-165fps on most games at 1440p fully maxed out [2560x1440p] with a 1080Ti... if that's what you're looking for. i could drop to above medium/high and get consistent 165Hz but i'm content with 120fps as the bare minimum its still freaking smooth imo.

 

as for the 1080, drop it by about 20 to 30 frames or so on both sides of ends for 1440p, i'm assuming it will be able to crank 1080p at 144hz without much issue providing your cpu can process the 144 frames per sec and there are no issues on that.

[xsimplyjosh]

All in all, 1440p at 144-165Hz IS the sweet spot for top tier gaming at the moment, slight bump over 1080p i find 1440p A LOT already for that "miniscule increase in resolution" that others keep harping on about that it doesn't match the 4k but you get the best of both worlds... 144hz + decent bump in resolution, something easy to manage with.

even with two windows side by side i personally feel on a 27" screen, 1440p is great. its not too big, its not too small.

 

then you have the option of ultrawide 1440p if that tickles your fancy if u like First person style games [pubg csgo overwatch etc]... 3440x1440 at theoretical 100hz max [overclocked]...

[i_build_nanosuits]

11 hours ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

If you don't like the orange on @i_build_nanosuits card

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HDvZxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-turbo-oc-video-card-gv-n1080ttoc-8gd

also it's $50 cheaper.

 

Conclusion : A 1080 is more than enough for 1080p 144hz.

i have no orange in my system and i don't like it but since it's underneath the card you don't see it...

here's how it looks in my system: