Need CPU for Gaming/Video

[jcoops]

So, what is it?  Which should I buy for gaming and video editing?

[Ashiella]

Gaming, intel, anything else, amd.

[jcoops]

2 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

Gaming, intel, anything else, amd.

That breaks it down.  So, what Z270 board do you recommend?

 

[jcw150]

What's your budget for mobo and cpu?

[Ashiella]

Just now, Jackson, The Computer Dude said:

That breaks it down.  So, what Z270 board do you recommend?

 

I personally like MSI, some asus boards seem to be nice but have a few issues and do not bother an rma with them.

[jcoops]

Just now, jcw150 said:

What's your budget for mobo and cpu?

Mid/High-Range.

[emosun]

On 9/8/2017 at 9:01 AM, Jackson, The Computer Dude said:

So, what is it?  Which should I buy for gaming and video editing?

well have you done any research
do you know what games you're playing
do you know what editor you're using
do you know your budget
are you reusing components

is there literally anything you could add besides a single line question or should we assume you are playing minesweeper and editing 16k fractals 

 

On 9/8/2017 at 9:06 AM, Jackson, The Computer Dude said:

Mid/High-Range.

is it mid or high..... mid can be 800$ while high can be 5 to 10k

[Morgan MLGman]

4 minutes ago, Jackson, The Computer Dude said:

That breaks it down.  So, what Z270 board do you recommend?

 

Do not go Z270. It's going to be replaced with Z370 in around a month, what's more - Z270 will not support 8th gen CPUs so you'll be stuck with what you bought and be forced to upgrade the entire platform when you start lacking CPU power.

 

I'd get a Ryzen 7 1700 and overclock it or wait for 8th gen 6-cores if I were you. Z270 is pretty much end-of-life and offers no upgrade path.

[jcoops]

This is the build I have so far, everything else missing in the build I already own.  I can't choose the right case, I'm going between an Aerocool P7-C1 to a Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV (Silver). 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ypY9gL

 

On 9/8/2017 at 9:11 AM, Morgan MLGman said:

Do not go Z270. It's going to be replaced with Z370 in around a month, what's more - Z270 will not support 8th gen CPUs so you'll be stuck with what you bought and be forced to upgrade the entire platform when you start lacking CPU power.

 

I'd get a Ryzen 7 1700 and overclock it or wait for 8th gen 6-cores if I were you. Z270 is pretty much end-of-life and offers no upgrade path.

When do you think 8th-gen will be out?

On 9/8/2017 at 9:08 AM, emosun said:

well have you done any research

do you know what games you're playing
do you know what editor you're using
do you know your budget
are you reusing components

is there literally anything you could add besides a single line question or should we assume you are playing minesweeper and editing 16k fractals 

Research: ✔

Games: Rust, GTA V, CS:GO

Editing: Cinema 4D, After Effects

Budget: 500-700 (Reusing most parts in the build)

Reusing: ✔

[Morgan MLGman]

1 minute ago, Jackson, The Computer Dude said:

When do you think 8th-gen will be out?

A news thread added 9 hours ago claims it's rumoured to launch October 5.

[HZapperz]

Ryzen is better for video editing since it has more cores.

[jcoops]

7 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

A news thread added 9 hours ago claims it's rumoured to launch October 5.

Alright, thanks.

[KenjiUmino]

7 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

you'll be stuck with what you bought and be forced to upgrade the entire platform when you start lacking CPU power.

unless you buy a new CPU every year you will pretty much ALWAYS be forced to upgrade the whole thing when you start lacking CPU power because a new and likely incompatible socket or chipset is out by then.

 

at least that's how intel has done it for over a decade and it looks like it will stay that way.

 

AMD had their share of new sockets as well during the same time but not as many and as fast ... dunno what they will do in the future ... i assume ryzen 2 will also come with AM4+

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, KenjiUmino said:

unless you buy a new CPU every year you will pretty much ALWAYS be forced to upgrade the whole thing when you start lacking CPU power because a new and likely incompatible socket or chipset is out by then.

 

at least that's how intel has done it for over a decade and it looks like it will stay that way.

 

AMD had their share of new sockets as well during the same time but not as many and as fast ... dunno what they will do in the future ... i assume ryzen 2 will also come with AM4+

AMD claims it will support AM4 up to at least 2020, Zen 2 will definitely be on AM4.

[KenjiUmino]

15 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

AMD claims it will support AM4 up to at least 2020, Zen 2 will definitely be on AM4.

yeah, they can make as many claims as hey want. i won't believe it until i see it happen. 

 

if they keep the socket but have their new CPUs require a new chipset to work properly then it's no different - you gotta buy a new mainboard either way. 

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, KenjiUmino said:

yeah, they can make as many claimst as hey want. i won't believe it until i see it happen. 

 

if they keep the socket but have their new CPUs require a new chipset to work properly then it's no different - you gotta buy a new mainboard either way. 

Judging by how long AM3+ was kept alive, I suppose the same will happen with AM4. There's no reason to believe otherwise to be fair.

[KenjiUmino]

7 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Judging by how long AM3+ was kept alive, I suppose the same will happen with AM4. There's no reason to believe otherwise to be fair.

how many architecture changes and CPU releases has AM3+ seen during its lifetime ? 

 

it was all bulldozer ... steamroller and excavator were released on socket FM1/2 exclusively, AFAIK ...  but i could have missed something here. 

[Fardin]

if you can wait, wait til october to get 8th gen 8700k . if you wanna build now, go for ryzen7 1700

[Nena Trinity]

Intel is slightly better for games but the price to performance clearly favor AMD.

[Od1sseas]

1 hour ago, Jackson, The Computer Dude said:

So, what is it?  Which should I buy for gaming and video editing?

Wait and get the Intel i5 or i7 Coffee Lake

[Mr.Meerkat]

25 minutes ago, KenjiUmino said:

how many architecture changes and CPU releases has AM3+ seen during its lifetime ? 

 

it was all bulldozer ... steamroller and excavator were released on socket FM1/2 exclusively, AFAIK ...  but i could have missed something here. 

(Also @Morgan MLGman)

How about AM3? Supports more or less all AM3+ CPUs as long as the BIOS is updated for em and the VRMs can handle it  

[minervx]

On 9/8/2017 at 10:02 AM, Ashiella said:

Gaming, intel, anything else, amd.

 

Or the opposite.  Intel's greatest asset (integrated graphics) makes it a solid choice for any build that is not for gaming or video editing.

[Coaxialgamer]

IMO, the 7700k is the only intel chip worth getting atm. If you're looking at an i5 as a possible option, then I'd get the r5 1600.

[Ashiella]

10 hours ago, minervx said:

 

Or the opposite.  Intel's greatest asset (integrated graphics) makes it a solid choice for any build that is not for gaming or video editing.

Fair enough.