Ryzen 3 or Ryzen 5?

[Hardfishing]

Im thinking of building a system around the ryzen 3. However the ryzen 5 has more cores and more threads. I want to have something that I can either upgrade in the future or have to last a while (at least 5 years). So I am asking if you guys could give me some info for if i should go ryzen 3 or 5. If i go ryzen 3 it will be the 1200 or ryzen 5 the 1400. Thanks.

[GER_T4IGA]

What will you use it for? Is the budget of any concern?

There rarely is an asnwer to overall best but usually it is 'best for'.

[Jadan]

What's your budget and is it flexible? What are you going to use this PC for?

Specify please.

[Fabian Lioner]

I would buy a ryzen 3 and upgrade in the next generation of AMD processors (They´ll be also be AM4).

BUT i don't think i have the patience to do that.... if you wait the reward will be worth it but its really hard and tempting to get a ryzen 5.

 

[Muirj101]

I would always buy the R5, however not the highest end model. The 1400 should be adequate. 

[Misanthrope]

With some exceptions I'd jump from the 1200 to the 1600 according to budget. 

 

If we start seeing far cheaper A320 motherboards I could see a case for the 1300 but eight now B350 boards are close enough to go for the 1200.

 

1400 and 1500 are not really good buys with the upcoming 4/8 i3 cannon lakes specially. Better to budget for a 1600 at midrange 700 to 1000 builds. 

[kaiju_wars]

Like I told my roommate, Ryzen 3 is a very solid line.  For gaming, you can't go wrong with the 1200 or 1300X, and you can currently upgrade all the way to the 1800X, which is a beast of a CPU.

But if your budget can stretch, get even at least the Ryzen 5 1400.  The extra threads help out so much.  Honestly I'd try to get the 1500X, for that extra L3 cache.

But even then, if you can push the budget, go Ryzen 5.  Otherwise, Ryzen 3 is still a solid choice.

[NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle]

If you can afford the R5, get it.

[Coaxialgamer]

From a pure value perspective, I'd recommend ryzen 3 , and then OC it. 

 

The 1200 costs 110$, while the 1400 costs 170$. You're paying 60$ more for SMT, which will only provide you with a 25% increase in performance in most cases.

[Dragoninja]

Never purchase something just to upgrade it later. You don't know what will happen between then and now. 

Always get the best option you can afford now. In the end, you will spend less money, have the power you need upfront, and not have to worry about your future upgrade. 

[MyName13]

1 hour ago, kaiju_wars said:

Like I told my roommate, Ryzen 3 is a very solid line.  For gaming, you can't go wrong with the 1200 or 1300X, and you can currently upgrade all the way to the 1800X, which is a beast of a CPU.

But if your budget can stretch, get even at least the Ryzen 5 1400.  The extra threads help out so much.  Honestly I'd try to get the 1500X, for that extra L3 cache.

But even then, if you can push the budget, go Ryzen 5.  Otherwise, Ryzen 3 is still a solid choice.

In which workloads does smt help "so much"?It provides around 25% more performance, that's not a lot, 1500x is an even worse buy, the extra cache offers only up to 15% more performance, 1600 is far better than 1500x.

 

1 hour ago, ONOTech said:

R3 1200 + OC or jump to the R5 1500X at the very least, though I recommend going with the 1600.

 

This applies even if you're doing CPU work. The R5 1400 has mediocre price/perf overall.

1500x is even worse than 1400 because it's too close to 1600 and offers around 15% more performance for 10-15% higher price than 1400.I really don't understand why people say that 1500x is much better than 1400 when it's the worst option.

[Hardfishing]

3 hours ago, GER_T4IGA said:

What will you use it for? Is the budget of any concern?

There rarely is an asnwer to overall best but usually it is 'best for'.

I plan on using it mostly for gaming and might go into cad designing later in life. Also for video editing. Budget is something to me but I can afford either or. I want to spend no more than 650 on a machine.

 

[Hardfishing]

3 hours ago, Jadan said:

What's your budget and is it flexible? What are you going to use this PC for?

Specify please.

I want to spend no more than 650 on the machine and I plan to do gaming, potentially cad designing later on, and video editing.

[Jon Jon]

1 minute ago, Hardfishing said:

I plan on using it mostly for gaming and might go into cad designing later in life. Also for video editing. Budget is something to me but I can afford either or. I want to spend no more than 650 on a machine.

 

I would try to squeeze in the R5, but the R3 would be fine for now.

 

I don't like to just go by benchmarks, as if you are a heavy multitasker, you will benefit from the R5.

[Hardfishing]

3 hours ago, ONOTech said:

R3 1200 + OC or jump to the R5 1500X at the very least, though I recommend going with the 1600.

 

This applies even if you're doing CPU work. The R5 1400 has mediocre price/perf overall.

I was thinking if i do ryzen 3 i would get the 1200 and over clock it to something like 3.8 ghz

[Hardfishing]

2 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

I would try to squeeze in the R5, but the R3 would be fine for now.

 

I don't like to just go by benchmarks, as if you are a heavy multitasker, you will benefit from the R5.

Ok because what im thinking for a system is ryzen 3 oc to something like 3.8 ghz, 8 gigs of ddr4 ram, gtx 1050 ti a 500 watt power supply( so say i upgrade gpu later i have power to do so) a 1terribite hdd to start off with then maybe getting a ssd later on. I am going to see if i can get a case used from a computer shop near me.

[Jon Jon]

10 minutes ago, Hardfishing said:

Ok because what im thinking for a system is ryzen 3 oc to something like 3.8 ghz, 8 gigs of ddr4 ram, gtx 1050 ti a 500 watt power supply( so say i upgrade gpu later i have power to do so) a 1terribite hdd to start off with then maybe getting a ssd later on. I am going to see if i can get a case used from a computer shop near me.

I would recommend getting the ASUS STRIX B350.

 

I am really happy with my X370 STRIX board. It made it stupid easy for me to get a strong OC out of my 1700.

[Hardfishing]

1 hour ago, Jon Jon said:

I would recommend getting the ASUS STRIX B350.

 

I am really happy with my X370 STRIX board. It made it stupid easy for me to get a strong OC out of my 1700.

What about the mortar white b350 i think is what it is called from msi? it goes for 90 bucks

 

[Jon Jon]

1 hour ago, Hardfishing said:

What about the mortar white b350 i think is what it is called from msi? it goes for 90 bucks

 

TBH, I am not a big fan of MSI motherboards.

 

I have been burned in the past by them and Biostar.

 

I've since favored ASUS and ASRock.

 

Neither company has let me down.

[ThatTechKid]

R3 1200 and then wait until Zen 3. They are 10nm chips that will outperform the R3 and you can get a R5 or a R7.

[Hardfishing]

1 hour ago, Jon Jon said:

TBH, I am not a big fan of MSI motherboards.

 

I have been burned in the past by them and Biostar.

 

I've since favored ASUS and ASRock.

 

Neither company has let me down.

Ok thanks for the help. I honestly dont know if i want to build a system or not yet because it is alot of money that i really dont have yet.

 

[Hardfishing]

1 hour ago, ThatTechKid said:

R3 1200 and then wait until Zen 3. They are 10nm chips that will outperform the R3 and you can get a R5 or a R7.

Im sorry but what is Zen 3?

 

[Jadan]

21 hours ago, Hardfishing said:

I want to spend no more than 650 on the machine and I plan to do gaming, potentially cad designing later on, and video editing.

I'm guessing your currency is USD.

If you're planning on doing video editing, cad and also gaming I seriously recommend the Ryzen 5 1600, with the Ryzen 3 you're workload is going to reduce with the fewer cores and you can easily fit a 1600 with that budget which offers 6c/12t which for the price is a really good deal considering the fact that it will be able to do anything you want it to.

Here's a build I quickly made: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G7pNM8

[Eduard the weeb]

19 hours ago, Hardfishing said:

Im thinking of building a system around the ryzen 3. However the ryzen 5 has more cores and more threads. I want to have something that I can either upgrade in the future or have to last a while (at least 5 years). So I am asking if you guys could give me some info for if i should go ryzen 3 or 5. If i go ryzen 3 it will be the 1200 or ryzen 5 the 1400. Thanks.

the ryzen 5s you plan on getting do not have more cores just hire clock speeds I would get a 1300x and B350 so you can overclock becuase X chips overclock better. 

[just_dave]

R5 1400 and decent B350 mobo (B350-F Strix)