recommandation Should I wait for the GTX 2000/Volta series?

[ChaosNicro]

Hello everyone,

 

With my current PC still working but in the "when you press the buttons at just the right angle" kind of way with a damaged graphics PCB, messy cable management and a suboptimal case for expansion, I wanted to do a completely new build. I had Nvidia in mind for graphics since AMD drivers caused some problems with my Linux OS and I was looking at a GTX 1070 for price-performance ratio. Now with all the rumors going on around Volta and the "refresh" 2000 series I was wondering if I should wait for the release?

I know that you would always be waiting on some new component to be released with that mentality and I know that some of the rumors hold more water than others. I'm mostly interested in the increased stats and not the better price of the new cards but I could not find any reliable data on how big of a difference there is going to be.

Thus I'd like to ask for your opinion on this.

Thanks in advance

[Samten]

Volta is expected for early 2018, however with the recent price increase of vega who knows. they might postpone it just because they dont really have any competition in the high end gaming scene. however you need to take the price spike in all gpu's which is ongoing atm due to mining into considerration. i would wait nomatter if you go for 1070 or volta 20(?)70, due to the price increase. how long you wait is up to you i guess.

[ChaosNicro]

 

5 minutes ago, Samten said:

Volta is expected for early 2018, however with the recent price increase of vega who knows. they might postpone it just because they dont really have any competition in the high end gaming scene. however you need to take the price spike in all gpu's which is ongoing atm due to mining into considerration. i would wait nomatter if you go for 1070 or volta 20(?)70, due to the price increase. how long you wait is up to you i guess.

 

I was literally watching the WAN show covering this when I made the topic and submitted before it got to that part. The mining bubble really is messing with gamers. Thanks for the summary.

[Diazonium]

If you want to go with Nvidia, there is nothing wrong with a 1070, if you can get it for a reasonable price. To be honest, I am not sure if Volta will bring great improvements over Pascal. I have a gut feeling, that Pascal is close to being as fast as possible without significant power increase. The age of die shrinking solving all your issues is also over (you can shrink but power/transistor remains roughly the same), so I expect a general slowdown of GPU evolution.

 

PS: the proliferation of HBM2 may happen with Volta (2080ti maybe?), consumes significantly less power than GDDR5/5X/6, leaves more power for the GPU, but otherwise not much is expected

Edited August 19, 2017 by Diazonium

[Frankenburger]

Considering Nvidia's performance trend, it's likely the 1070 will be on par with the 1160. Overall, the 1070 isn't too shabby, and waiting 8+ months doesn't seem worth it to me if you're ready to buy now. You can always resell the 1070 after Volta hits to get some of your money back if the jump in performance is worth it.

[samwitwicky4599]

What about Vega 56

[Frankenburger]

33 minutes ago, samwitwicky4599 said:

What about Vega 56

Hard to say without it being officially released. Vega 56 basically on par with GTX 1070 if you ignore power efficiency. If they're released at a competitive price, then it should be worth considering. But considering what happened to Vega 64, I don't expect Vega 56 to launch at $399.

[samwitwicky4599]

My local shop sells Vega 64 for 858 dollars and it is not expected to go down a 1080ti is cheaper

[Princess Luna]

Go either GTX 1080 or 1080ti and be happy, Volta is no longer coming on Q1 2018 because nVidia is still king and has no competition thus no reason to kill their Pascal series just yet as they can stick milking people's money with since Vega was a failure.

[Princess Luna]

On 8/19/2017 at 10:45 AM, Diazonium said:

PS: the proliferation of HBM2 may happen with Volta (2080ti maybe?), consumes significantly less power than GDDR5/5X/6, leaves more power for the GPU, but otherwise not much is expected

The only HBM2 Volta card is going to be the TITAN X, every thing else will be GDDR6

[Darkseth]

GTX 1070 is uninteresting in many Countries.

In mine, you can get a GTX 1080 for 60-90€ more. That's 12% more price, 25% more performance.

 

 

Wait for Volta?

Let me tell you a story about that. It was a beautiful May, in the Year 2016. Nvidia just launched their GTX 1080. People were hyped, SO much more performance over the last gen.

But some people said: Wait for AMD Vega, they will destroy it, it will come in a few Months.

What happened? 15 Months later, still not available. Launched, but retarded Prices because bad availability, and no Customs yet. And a worse GPU than a GTX 1080.

 

What do we learn here? You don't "WAIT" for anything, except it is just around the corner. Like, you shouldn't buy an i7 7700k with 4 cores now, when an i7 8700k is about to hit in 1-2 Months (small wait time, for a life span of 5-6 Years).

You don't wait. You buy, when you need. Do you need now? then BUY.

Don't you need a new GPU now? Then why bother asking? Chill ^^ 

 

 

Volta will NOT be released before 2018. Probably even somewhere spring 2018..?! I mean, Nvidia is in no hurry. Vega didnt beat Pascal as an overall Product (barely matches the performance for MUCH higher Power consumption, and all that 14-15 Months later)

 

If you wait a Year for Volta.. then you can Wait for the next 3000 generation (or 1200). And so on^^

[ErickS89]

We could maybe see the Titan by years end or the first few months of 2018, but I'd suspect 2070 and 2080 cards by May.  But, who knows maybe Nvidia releases volta only to push vega back to the stone age?  

 

I'll be buying another 1080 FTW card until Volta just so my build can be done.

[Vode]

I wouldn't wait for Volta.

 

Nvidia doesn't have a reason to release Volta anytime soon and looking at the historical upgrade cylcle Volta will be Q2 2018 at best.

 

I'd say buy the 1070 now it's a great card or if you can get a Vega 56 at MSRP then that but I wouldn't hold my breath.