Should I wait for Vega 64 or get a 1080 Ti

[kronickiller]

if vega was gonna beat 1080ti amd woulda been bragging already

good thing i bought my 1080ti b4 the card market went to hell lol

and now the miners know vega is the mining king the prices are gonna be as over inflated as buying nvidia anyway

[dewuevnoc]

I waited around a couple of weeks and was in your exact situation. Originally I had a Freesync 4K  panel but eventually settled on a more reasonable 1440p

 

All of the rumors about vega launching at $650 and crypto currency mining aside I concluded that the only other reason I had been waiting had been due to a bit of brand loyalty.

 

If the card actually does sell $150 over MSRP the cost savings with vega/freesync is essentially eliminated. What would I end up with for that then?

 

A 300W TDP card in a segment AMD hasn't really offered consistent releases for which costs nearly as much as a 30% more capable card and, possibly a little less future proofing. 

 

For someone who already owns a freesync panel and that feature matters to them, they have little choice.

 

For anyone else interested in high-end gaming Nvidia is at least offering regular improvements and has shown to be committed to the very high-end level of the PC gaming market. For me the power consumption and quiet operation that goes along with that was the 'final straw'. With the 1080Ti I have now, my PSU fan doesn't run and even under load the whole system is essentially silent. 

 

If you can afford it, it's really not much of a competition at the moment. 

 

[Darkseth]

Even if a Custom Vega 64 DOES outperform an equal custom GTX 1080 by a few % (like the latest Firestrike benches show), you still have to consider a VERY big point, that 99% of all people just ignore: Power consumption.

 

Vega will barely beat a GTX 1080 (or maybe just be at the same level, or slightly behind), by consuming almost 290-300 Watt.

It will consume 290-300 Watt for a Performance, a GTX 1080 managed to deliver 14 Months ago with just 180-200 Watt.

 

Even if you get a Freesync monitor... The difference in Power consumption will make your AMD GPU more expensive than Nvidia, and the Dollar you saved by going for Freesync instead G_Sync is getting smaller and smaller with the years.

 

tbh: Get the GTX 1080, or even 1080 ti, if you want to go 1440p / 144 Hz (please.. DO get G-Sync then. If Freesync, then Vega of course. VRR > everything), or even 4k/60.

 

I personally upgraeded my GTX 1060 i bought after Release (Only regret not getting a RX 480 because i could've sold it for 400+ bucks) to a GTX 1080 3 Months ago, after i got a 1440p/144 Hz G-Sync monitor.

I didn't regret it, and i do NOT regret, that i didn't wait for Vega. Just thinking about 180w. vs. 300w.... yea, Nvidia > AMD for me there, easy. I even undervolted my 1080 down to <140 Watt.

 

And GTX 1080 ti won't have any competition. It will be 20% faster than Vega 64, and still consume less, with only 250w base TDP (which is equal to power consumption for Polaris cards). Vega 64 Liquic will burn 345 Watt... yea no thanks.. completely uninteresting card...

[mr moose]

4 hours ago, Phate.exe said:

It's all about the Ice Wall bro.  Insanity copied from the Flat Earth Society's wiki below.  It has all of the coherence and clarity of thought you'd expect from people who think the earth is flat.

 

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Sorry, I just had to share this.

 

I would claim that that read like a discworld novel,   except I don't want to insult Terry Pratchett's memory with such bollocks.  So Instead I'll just repeat the usual trope about being a little dumber for having read it and go back to practicing tying my shoes with one hand.

[Jon Jon]

If you are shooting for that 144fps cap, you should get the 1080ti.

 

Vega64 is not going to get anywhere near 1080ti performance.

 

I would also argue that the Ryzen CPU will be a bottleneck here as well, as Intel is the better choice currently if you are shooting for 144fps gaming.

 

EDIT: I am personally looking to pick up Vega64, but I also just invested in my 75hz freesync UHD monitor, so my goal is to be able to run at that frame rate minimum for the next few years at high settings.

[dizmo]

5 hours ago, Phate.exe said:

It's all about the Ice Wall bro.  Insanity copied from the Flat Earth Society's wiki below.  It has all of the coherence and clarity of thought you'd expect from people who think the earth is flat.

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That's ridiculous. 150 feet tall, so we don't know what's on the other side? People are so stupid..

[gbergeron]

8 hours ago, Phate.exe said:

It's all about the Ice Wall bro.  Insanity copied from the Flat Earth Society's wiki below.  It has all of the coherence and clarity of thought you'd expect from people who think the earth is flat.

 

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"The figure of 24,900 miles is the diameter of the known world; the area which the light from the sun affects. Along the edge of our local area exists a massive 150 foot Ice Wall. The 150 foot Ice Wall is on the coast of Antarctica. The Ice Wall is a massive wall of ice that surrounds Antarctica. The shelf of ice is several hundred meters thick. This nearly vertical ice front to the open sea is more than 50 meters high above the water's surface.

 

The Ice Wall was discovered by Sir James Clark Ross, a British Naval Officer and polar explorer who was among the first to venture to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the South Magnetic Pole.

 

Beyond the 150 foot Ice Wall is anyone's guess. How far the ice extends; how it terminates; and what exists beyond it, are questions to which no present human experience can reply. All we at present know is, that snow and hail, howling winds, and indescribable storms and hurricanes prevail; and that in every direction "human ingress is barred by unsealed escarpments of perpetual ice," extending farther than eye or telescope can penetrate, and becoming lost in gloom and darkness. Some hold that the tundra of ice and snow stretches forever eternally.

 

The Ice Wall is a natural formation, a thick mass of floating ice that is attached to land, formed from and fed by tongues of glaciers extending outward from deep within the uncharted tundra into sheltered waters. Where there are no strong currents, the ice becomes partly grounded on the sea bottom and attaches itself to rocks and islands. The wall is pushed forward into the sea by glacial pressure until its forward growth is terminated.

 

The entire coast of the Ice Wall is not one single complete wall, however. There are actually a series of thousand mile long walls, divided by Transantarctic Mountain Ranges up to 11,500 feet high. The weight of The Ice Walls are so enormous that they have literally pressed the land two thirds of a mile (one kilometer) into the earth. Under the massive forces of their own weight, the ice walls deform and drag themselves outward. Very large glaciers called ice streams flow through them continually, transporting ice from deep inland out to the sea.

 

Temperatures are thought to approach absolute zero the further one explores outwards. Exploration in this type of pitch black freezing environment is impossible for any man or machine. We live on a vast plane with an unknown diameter and an unknown depth. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham held that knowing the true dimensions of the earth is something which will forever be unknowable by man."

 

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Sorry, I just had to share this.

stop the cancer lollll

 

Earth is a sphere any educated person knows that...

 

If its flat then, how come we have night and days ? lolll theres soooo many things that proves it, its a shame that many people are ignorant

 

I don't even understand how people can believe earth is flat ? omg ?

[gbergeron]

3 hours ago, dizmo said:

That's ridiculous. 150 feet tall, so we don't know what's on the other side? People are so stupid..

Lol we clearly don't have satellites that revolve around the earth to know whats on the "other side"

 

 

[Phate.exe]

2 hours ago, gbergeron said:

Lol we clearly don't have satellites that revolve around the earth to know whats on the "other side"

 

 

 

5 hours ago, dizmo said:

That's ridiculous. 150 feet tall, so we don't know what's on the other side? People are so stupid..

 

See, you all just need to get more woke, and open your eyes to the globalist conspiracy that's all around us.

 

Okay, I'm gonna stop now.  I was originally looking for a quick couple sentences to laugh at, but I couldn't not subject somebody else to that level of insanity.

[xsimplyjosh]

On 11/08/2017 at 3:15 PM, Cosmotis said:

Yeah the more I think about getting a 1080ti, the more excited I get about it. I've always had a mid range PC, and this time around I want the best of the best for what I do. Lots of gaming and audio engineering. So I will most likely sell my 480 and get a 1080ti. I've heard about volta and stuff, idk if it'd lower the prices of previous gen but frankly I'm sick of "waiting for the next thing because it'll be better". The ti is still relevant and still at the top. I don't want to buy it and think "man I could've done a little better", and I don't think I will with the ti.

I don't think you'll be disappointed to be honest. I'm using the 1080ti on a 1440p 165Hz monitor as of now after receiving all my parts and I'm more than satisfied, as much as people would tell me "why not 4k?!" , because I think there's still a fair amount of work to be done on 4k  before it's entirely viable and I feel the 1440p tends to be the gaming sweet spot, decent bump over my clunky 1080p monitor it gives me that extra resolution i just need without going full out, whilst giving me high frame rates. Also maybe it helps as I like to run a single card setup rather than SLI due to the unforseen issues with some games not utilizing duo graphics card effectively.

 

Also with new graphics card [eg Volta/vega] there's always usually that early adopter tax you pay for the latest and greatest new stuff which normally I'm averse to (i'm the type to wait for multitude of hardcore reviews and customer reviews. Also like to wait for hardcore reviewers to benchmark the heck out of it [gaming wise] and present their findings then decide a few months or so before plunging into it.)

 

im hoping to get at least 7 years minimum out of the 1080ti, as with this monitor im also expecting around a 7 year lifespan minimum. i did manage to get along w/ a 7870/1080p monitor for 5-6 years so its definitely possible with this [or even longer].