7350k after price cuts?

[ellisif]

I tried searching but I haven't found any threads about the 7350k after the recent price cuts to $130-150.

 

Would it now make more sense to get a 7350k for that price (esp. $135ish) and maybe an open box Z270 board for like $90? VS say an R3 and a B350 board.

 

I'm looking solely, 110% at gaming performance and nothing else. I already have a cheap workstation for multithreaded apps.

 

Also, does anyone have any experience with 2133 or 2400 mhz RAM with Kaby Lake? Would I be severely impacting performance by skimping on the RAM speed?

[sazrocks]

What games?

[DocSwag]

No, because coffee Lake is soon

[ellisif]

17 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

What games?

Well, this system would be outputting video to a streaming machine so games that I can stream- Dark Souls 1/2/3, Halo Online (Eldewrito), PUBG, FFXIV, Destiny 2 when it launches, perhaps a small amount of Overwatch, and particularly emulated games where allowed, especially as RPCS3 becomes more viable. Right now I have an FX-4100 which is really just barely cutting it for most games, even when I can hit 60 the frame times are abysmal and stuttering is horrible.

 

Not really worried about games like GTAV or B1 or anything, I'm not a huge fan and they're not particularly streamable anyways.

 

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

No, because coffee Lake is soon

I don't imagine Coffee Lake is going to have any price-competitive options around $220 for a CPU+Mobo, but it might be worth waiting just in case. I'll think about it.

[aisle9]

43 minutes ago, ellisif said:

I tried searching but I haven't found any threads about the 7350k after the recent price cuts to $130-150.

 

Would it now make more sense to get a 7350k for that price (esp. $135ish) and maybe an open box Z270 board for like $90? VS say an R3 and a B350 board.

 

I'm looking solely, 110% at gaming performance and nothing else. I already have a cheap workstation for multithreaded apps.

 

Also, does anyone have any experience with 2133 or 2400 mhz RAM with Kaby Lake? Would I be severely impacting performance by skimping on the RAM speed?

No, IMO. The G4600 and an H110 motherboard combined will run you about what the 7350K by itself would cost, before factoring in the Z270 board.

 

And no, I've run 2133 and 2400 on the same PC (at different times, of course) and didn't notice a difference in the slightest.

[sazrocks]

Actually, if you can, I would wait for coffee lake. Rumor has it that i3s will be 4c4t.

[ellisif]

Just now, aisle9 said:

No, IMO. The G4600 and an H110 motherboard combined will run you about what the 7350K by itself would cost, before factoring in the Z270 board.

 

And no, I've run 2133 and 2400 on the same PC (at different times, of course) and didn't notice a difference in the slightest.

G4600: $87

H110: $60

 

Total: $147

 

7350k: $130

Z170: $100

 

Total: $230

 

You're somewhat correct, but I do feel like the ability to crossfire and just have more connectivity overall may be worth the extra money.  Emulation may be important for the future and the high single thread power of the 7350k will make cutting edge emulation possible... I'll consider the cheaper option too, though.'

 

Thank you for the memory info, also. I did not want to shell out the extra for 3000+ since at that point it definitely wouldn't be competitive.

[Jonathan Lemmens]

11 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

No, because coffee Lake is soon

I highly doubt Coffeelake will feature an unlocked i3, even if it does it won't be as 'cheap' as the 7350K is now.

 

6 minutes ago, ellisif said:

Well, this system would be outputting video to a streaming machine so games that I can stream- Dark Souls 1/2/3, Halo Online (Eldewrito), PUBG, FFXIV, Destiny 2 when it launches, perhaps a small amount of Overwatch, and particularly emulated games where allowed, especially as RPCS3 becomes more viable. Right now I have an FX-4100 which is really just barely cutting it for most games, even when I can hit 60 the frame times are abysmal and stuttering is horrible.

 

Not really worried about games like GTAV or B1 or anything, I'm not a huge fan and they're not particularly streamable anyways.

I'm afraid Overwatch and the emulated games are the only ones in this list that won't suffer under a dualcore. See if you can squeeze the R5 1400 + B350 mobo in your budget, that would probably fair better in those other games.

[aisle9]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Lemmens said:

I highly doubt Coffeelake will feature an unlocked i3, even if it does it won't be as 'cheap' as the 7350K is now.

An unlocked, hyper-threaded Pentium would be a spectacular entry-level chip, though. If Intel were to make it overclockable on at least the mid-tier H and B chipset instead of just on Z boards, an unlocked 2C/4T Pentium on an H310 or B350(I) board would be a compelling entry against Ryzen 3.

[DocSwag]

13 hours ago, Jonathan Lemmens said:

I highly doubt Coffeelake will feature an unlocked i3, even if it does it won't be as 'cheap' as the 7350K is now.

 

Rumors say i3s will be quad cores now. Even if they're not unlocked a locked quad core WILL be better than a 7350k as evidenced by all those 7500s beating 7350ks

[DocSwag]

13 hours ago, ellisif said:

I don't imagine Coffee Lake is going to have any price-competitive options around $220 for a CPU+Mobo, but it might be worth waiting just in case. I'll think about it.

Rumors all point to quad core i3s ATM. Pair a $120 ish i3 with a $60 ish mobo and that's a $180 combo with something faster than a 7350k.