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So i had this coolermaster seidon 120m, i kept my cpu (i5-4690k @4.4ghz @1.32v) under 70c while gaming. It never got past 68c.

And for the good looks i bought a Deepcool 240m. And wierdly enough it cant keep up. My cpu is going 74c while gaming, not synthetic tests.

Anyone have any suggestions ? I still use the same fans on the Deepcool as i used on the seidon (noctua 120mm)

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Are you using sufficient TIM and pressure? 

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10 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

So i had this coolermaster seidon 120m, i kept my cpu (i5-4690k @4.4ghz @1.32v) under 70c while gaming. It never got past 68c.

And for the good looks i bought a Deepcool 240m. And wierdly enough it cant keep up. My cpu is going 74c while gaming, not synthetic tests.

Anyone have any suggestions ? I still use the same fans on the Deepcool as i used on the seidon (noctua 120mm)

Deepcool is utterly crap. Stay away from them at all costs. The deepcool stuff I have bought I wish I had spent a bit more and got something decent.

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3 hours ago, ARikozuM said:

Are you using sufficient TIM and pressure? 

TIM ?

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Just now, T0MMEN said:

TIM ?

Thermal interface material (thermal paste).

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Just now, unknownmiscreant said:

Thermal interface material (thermal paste).

Yes i am, i tried to remount it aswell. didnt change. The radiator itself isnt hot, wich means the pump or something must be shit.

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Just now, T0MMEN said:

Yes i am, i tried to remount it aswell. didnt change. The radiator itself isnt hot, wich means the pump or something must be shit.

Everything deepcool makes is shit. Fans, fan hubs. They can't even sleeve cables properly. You'll probably find the pump is crap, and the water block itself is undersized. My advice would be to return it.

 

Get something proper from a reputable brand. The corsair and NZXT AIOs are good. Although more expensive. You get what you pay for!!

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Just now, unknownmiscreant said:

Everything deepcool makes is shit. Fans, fan hubs. They can't even sleeve cables properly. You'll probably find the pump is crap, and the water block itself is undersized. My advice would be to return it.

 

Get something proper from a reputable brand. The corsair and NZXT AIOs are good. Although more expensive. You get what you pay for!!

The only reason i bought was because it was white, cant find white radiators anywhere else.

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2 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

The only reason i bought was because it was white, cant find white radiators anywhere else.

Paint? If you do it right, it won't affect performance.

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Just now, unknownmiscreant said:

Paint? If you do it right, it won't affect performance.

So much hassel.

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19 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

Yes i am, i tried to remount it aswell. didnt change. The radiator itself isnt hot, wich means the pump or something must be shit.

Make sure that the pump is running and that there isn't any air in the loop. 

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10 minutes ago, T0MMEN said:

So much hassel.

Well its either hassle, or high temperatures with a crappy AIO.

 

Looking at the pictures of the deepcool aio, you'll be able to get the same effect with a $5 can of paint, some masking tape and possibly an hour's work. The fins of the rad aren't painted, only the casing. So it will be a piece of cake, and the result will be significantly better than the deepcool offering, particularly if you plan on overclocking

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Just now, ARikozuM said:

Make sure that the pump is running and that there isn't any air in the loop. 

Any tips how i check the air in the loop ? The pump is running at 2400rpm according to my bios.

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This is unreal (?) Ive been running furmarks cpu stress test for about 10minutes, my temps are in high 80c. hottes core has been 90c!!!!

And the radiator isnt even that hot, either the pump is broke or something ??

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5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Make sure that the pump is running and that there isn't any air in the loop. 

I cant adjust pump speeds, its a 3pin connector.

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Just now, T0MMEN said:

Any tips how i check the air in the loop ? The pump is running at 2400rpm according to my bios.

I doubt the pump is running at the indicated. You need to touch the pump as you're turning on the system to feel for vibrations. 

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12 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I doubt the pump is running at the indicated. You need to touch the pump as you're turning on the system to feel for vibrations. 

Like i said, its a 3pin connector, not really much i can do :/

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Just now, T0MMEN said:

Like i said, its a 3pin connector, not really much i can do :/

You don't need to change the speed. You need to feel for it to start working. If it's buzzing, but not vibrating, you need to RMA since the pump isn't working. 

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6 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

You don't need to change the speed. You need to feel for it to start working. If it's buzzing, but not vibrating, you need to RMA since the pump isn't working. 

You think the pump isnt working ? How come it doesnt overheat when im playing games ? Only 70c.

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1 minute ago, T0MMEN said:

You think the pump isnt working ? How come it doesnt overheat when im playing games ? Only 70c.

Water has a good heat capacity. Making sure that the pump is fully working is important. 

 

Otherwise, your temps seem to be within margin of error considering everything that can happen. 

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18 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Water has a good heat capacity. Making sure that the pump is fully working is important. 

 

Otherwise, your temps seem to be within margin of error considering everything that can happen. 

I have no idea if its fully working, u plugged out everything but the deepcooler pump, i could hear it making a tiny bit of  noise, and the light pulses when the pump is plugged inn.

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Just now, T0MMEN said:

I have no idea if its fully working, u plugged out everything but the deepcooler pump, i could hear it making a tiny bit of  noise, and the light pulses when the pump is plugged inn.

Could you feel the pump? 

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2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Could you feel the pump? 

here is the thing, on my seidon 120m wich i have mounted on my gpu, i can feel the pump pumping cuz the tubing is hard and it vibrates, on the deepcooler the tubes are soft, so i dont know. I tryed touching the cooler directly, but i cant really tell.

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3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Could you feel the pump? 

My friend had a aio cooler and the pump didnt work, he hit 91c just by booting, so i dont think the pump is borken. I have no idea tho.

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Just now, T0MMEN said:

but i cant really tell.

I would just do an RMA. Every company has lemons and you should be able to get the RMA taken care of. 

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