BitWit - Ryzen Workstation Build

[NTDaws]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3XxhXH
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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($135.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($82.44 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY - Quadro 4000 2GB Video Card  ($193.44 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.54 @ Amazon) 
Total: $824.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-05 15:08 EDT-0400

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.54 @ Amazon)?

 

 

why?

2 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 

why?

 

2 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Video Card: PNY - Quadro 4000 2GB Video Card  ($193.44 @ Amazon) 

why? a used gtx 970 or 1050ti would be better

 

[NTDaws]

2 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

why?

why?

 

why? a used gtx 970 or 1050ti would be better

 

its a workstation #cad work

[Lurick]

It's a WORKSTATION build for CAD rendering and NOT some gaming machine

[TVwazhere]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

why? a used gtx 970 or 1050ti would be better

Depending on the application, some programs work best with Quadro/Firepro cards. Not all, but a lot do (Solidworks for example seems to work better from the benchmarks I've seen)

[The Sloth]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

Solidworks for example seems to work better from the benchmarks I've seen)

not exactly, SolidWorks hides some functions for Quadro and FirePro cards, for most people a gtx 1050ti or gtx 970 will be more than enough. 

[TVwazhere]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

not exactly, SolidWorks hides some functions for Quadro and FirePro cards, for most people a gtx 1050ti or gtx 970 will be more than enough. 

Workstation builds are not for most people

[emosun]

 

26 minutes ago, Lurick said:

It's a WORKSTATION build for CAD rendering and NOT some gaming machine

I'd disagree , this build could be used as a workstation but I only see regular desktop parts here.

The heck kind of workstations doesn't use faster dual xeons and instead opts for a more expensive slower ryzen platform? There are workstations from 2009 that are faster than this build. The memory isn't even ecc.

[emosun]

35 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 

and it's 100% ok to question why you chose a 40$ hard drive that is only 500gb and 5400rpm.

[Lurick]

3 minutes ago, emosun said:

I'd disagree , this build could be used as a workstation but I only see regular desktop parts here.

The heck kind of workstations doesn't use faster dual xeons and instead opts for a more expensive slower ryzen platform? There are workstations from 2009 that are faster than this build. The memory isn't even ecc.

He mentions it in the video, that it's a workstation build, for his uncle who runs a small shop. This isn't supposed to be a gaming rig and it's not supposed to be top of the line or the fastest thing ever. It's for CAD drawing/rendering and machining parts and it's to replace a very very old and out dated machine.

[Salacious B Crum]

Sure sounded like a combination of owners budget and some parts he had on hand. The mobo he had which in turn determined the processor which in turn determine the ram, and so on and so on.

[iRileyx]

7 minutes ago, emosun said:

I'd disagree , this build could be used as a workstation but I only see regular desktop parts here.

The heck kind of workstations doesn't use faster dual xeons and instead opts for a more expensive slower ryzen platform? There are workstations from 2009 that are faster than this build. The memory isn't even ecc.

And what parts would you call "workstation" parts?

 

Also, i'm failing to see your point on the dual xeons here, at least with the same budget.

 
 

[emosun]

Just now, RKRiley said:

Also, i'm failing to see your point on the dual xeons here, at least with the same budget.

use 2011 xeons not 1366 xeons. and use the builds budget not just trying to replace the one cpu with many using a single cpu budget. theres 824$ there it can be distributed better.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Lurick said:

it's not supposed to be top of the line or the fastest thing ever

well surely then we could spend 800$ on a pentium 4 machine that would better fit the "large price slow performance" model better than the current build.  Or we could actually try and make the fastest machine that will fit in 800$

[Lurick]

Just now, emosun said:

use 2011 xeons not 1366 xeons. and use the builds budget not just trying to replace the one cpu with many using a single cpu budget. theres 824$ there it can be distributed better.

 

 

well surely then we could spend 800$ on a pentium 4 machine that would better fit the "large price slow performance" model better than the current build.  Or we could actually try and make the fastest machine that will fit in 800$

 

Or we could use parts already on hand and a more limited budget and build an $800 machine for less for family. I also fail to see your point of how a Ryzen 1600 is a slow performance build.

[emosun]

1 minute ago, Lurick said:

Or we could use parts already on hand and a more limited budget and build an $800 machine for less for family.

what are you talking about? the build shown is 824$ with all the parts he listed , I don't see any free or reused parts in the list at all.

[Lurick]

Just now, emosun said:

what are you talking about? the build shown is 824$ with all the parts he listed , I don't see any free or reused parts in the list at all.

I see where the disconnect is. BitWit is a YouTube channel who posted this build. I still have no idea why OP posted it here since there was no mention of "Optimize it for me" or "How can I make this better". Just posted the title of the video and the channel name.

[NTDaws]

39 minutes ago, emosun said:

and it's 100% ok to question why you chose a 40$ hard drive that is only 500gb and 5400rpm.

Professor, it's not my build. 

no offence

[Salacious B Crum]

31 minutes ago, emosun said:

what are you talking about? the build shown is 824$ with all the parts he listed , I don't see any free or reused parts in the list at all.

Then you clearly missed the part where @ 2:10 he said he had the mobo and acknowledged it was not a workstation board?

 

 

[emosun]

1 hour ago, Being Delirious said:

Professor, it's not my build. 

 

If it's not your build , it's not the correct price , and you don't want people suggesting changes or questioning the selected parts.....

then why does this post exist?

[NTDaws]

25 minutes ago, emosun said:

 

If it's not your build , it's not the correct price , and you don't want people suggesting changes or questioning the selected parts.....

then why does this post exist?

*sigh* you should know this, I wanted a idea of want people thought. Not a guy questioning me so much. 

[TVwazhere]

15 hours ago, Being Delirious said:

*sigh* you should know this, I wanted a idea of want people thought. Not a guy questioning me so much. 

*CAD Tech Opinion*

 

I personally think it's a good build, especially for $800 for a small shop with probably only one or two users. Even considering it's only got 500GB of storage and doesnt have a great power supply. Even though the ram isnt "Ryzen compatible" I doubt he will have it OC'd hard, or at all, so it's fine. It's not like theyre going to be storing terabytes of information on there (my fairly extensive Inventor library is probably only 30GB *EDIT, added an extra 0 by mistake* ) and the GPU and CPU wont stress out the PSU too hard (Though for $5 we might have been able to squeeze in something a bit more quality like a 450 B3)

I'm running on a Xeon E3-1607 V0 workstation from 2011, I'd be ecstatic for this PC

[Not_Sean]

9 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

*CAD Tech Opinion*

 

I personally think it's a good build, especially for $800 for a small shop with probably only one or two users. Even considering it's only got 500GB of storage and doesnt have a great power supply. Even though the ram isnt "Ryzen compatible" I doubt he will have it OC'd hard, or at all, so it's fine. It's not like theyre going to be storing terabytes of information on there (my fairly extensive Inventor library is probably only 300GB) and the GPU and CPU wont stress out the PSU too hard (Though for $5 we might have been able to squeeze in something a bit more quality like a 450 B3)

I'm running on a Xeon E3-1607 V0 workstation from 2011, I'd be ecstatic for this PC

For the Pure CAD loadout would you rather a 240GB SSD and have a smaller library ? like with your programs would you see the benefits of SSD ? or 7200rpm enough 

[TVwazhere]

12 hours ago, Not_Sean said:

For the Pure CAD loadout would you rather a 240GB SSD and have a smaller library ? like with your programs would you see the benefits of SSD ? or 7200rpm enough 

For the most part having your program on an SSD vs a hard drive wont make a difference in hoe fast the program runs. It does help a little bit with how fast it loads, but it's pretty minor (I've had Autodesk Inventor installed on both an SSD and HDD at work and not much changed)