First PC for work and play/ <1000 USD (Temp craig. graphics card)

[Jay Arch]

Thank you for taking the time to look over my build and helping out a newbie in the master race.

Trying to build a Hybrid computer for Architectural software such as AutoCAD, Revit, and SketchUP as well as gaming and future upgrades. 

I found a Sapphire Nitro Radeon RX 460 OC ( hasn't been overclocked) for 80 dollars on craigslist and would like to use it as a temporary cheap gpu until the mining craze goes away and i can then replace it with an RX 580 or something of the like. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)

I wanted hyperthreading because i think it will make a big difference for my Arch. programs and i didn't want to blow my budget on a good I7 so I think that this is a good compromise maybe?

Also I wanted to use the stock cooler this came with and save a few extra dollars. I don't plan on overclocking (not at my level now at least) so would the stock cooler be fine for the rig where its at? 

Also does thermal paste dry and harden? Does the stock cooler even need thermal paste? Told you I was a newbie.

Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.99 @ Amazon)

 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($76.85 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.89 @ OutletPC)

All of my primary programs will go on the ssd and maybe a game or two if there's room but the hdd will be mostly dedicated for gaming and files.

Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card

This is the same video card from the craigslist ad. 

Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Newegg)

Ugly or no? Be honest. 

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 

Should i get more wattage power supply for future expansions? Or would it be more economical to simply get a better power supply when and if I need it?

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 

Any tips or tricks on getting an operating system cheaper would be epic as I still need room for a halfway decent mouse, keyboard and monitor. I do need windows though as the Arch. Programs need it. 

Total: $802.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

Any issues, comments, criticism, suggestions, or praise would be appreciated. Thank you again for your help.

Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-30 14:15 EDT-0400

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, Jay Arch said:

Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($76.85 @ Amazon) 

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Sacriledgy]

2 minutes ago, Jay Arch said:

Thank you for taking the time to look over my build and helping out a newbie in the master race.

Trying to build a Hybrid computer for Architectural software such as AutoCAD, Revit, and SketchUP as well as gaming and future upgrades. 

I found a Sapphire Nitro Radeon RX 460 OC ( hasn't been overclocked) for 80 dollars on craigslist and would like to use it as a temporary cheap gpu until the mining craze goes away and i can then replace it with an RX 580 or something of the like. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)

I wanted hyperthreading because i think it will make a big difference for my Arch. programs and i didn't want to blow my budget on a good I7 so I think that this is a good compromise maybe?

Also I wanted to use the stock cooler this came with and save a few extra dollars. I don't plan on overclocking (not at my level now at least) so would the stock cooler be fine for the rig where its at? 

Also does thermal paste dry and harden? Does the stock cooler even need thermal paste? Told you I was a newbie.

Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.99 @ Amazon)

 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($76.85 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.89 @ OutletPC)

All of my primary programs will go on the ssd and maybe a game or two if there's room but the hdd will be mostly dedicated for gaming and files.

Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card

This is the same video card from the craigslist ad. 

Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Newegg)

Ugly or no? Be honest. 

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 

Should i get more wattage power supply for future expansions? Or would it be more economical to simply get a better power supply when and if I need it?

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 

Any tips or tricks on getting an operating system cheaper would be epic as I still need room for a halfway decent mouse, keyboard and monitor. I do need windows though as the Arch. Programs need it. 

Total: $802.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

Any issues, comments, criticism, suggestions, or praise would be appreciated. Thank you again for your help.

Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-30 14:15 EDT-0400

Actually a pretty nice build... 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Its Not Important said:

Actually a pretty nice build... 

But the SSD...

 

It's horrible.

[Zando_]

Looks good! The Ryzen 5 1600 is the best bang for your buck CPU right now, and all your other hardware looks pretty good. Only thing I would do is swap out the mobo for an ASRock Pro4, and make sure the RAM is on the QVL list. 

[Sacriledgy]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

But the SSD...

 

It's horrible.

Its a solid choice for that budget. Still much faster than any HDD 

[Zando_]

Just now, JDE said:

But the SSD...

 

It's horrible.

Not as bad as a spinning hard drive though...

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Its Not Important said:

Its a solid choice for that budget. Still much faster than any HDD 

Yeah, but for 3 dollars more you can get much better performance with the SL308.

[Sacriledgy]

Just now, JDE said:

Yeah, but for 3 dollars more you can get much better performance with the SL308.

Really? I wasn't aware about that.... is the difference that noticeable?

[Changis]

7 minutes ago, Jay Arch said:

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 

Should i get more wattage power supply for future expansions? Or would it be more economical to simply get a better power supply when and if I need it?

can i suggest this as an alternative? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze $29.99 after $15 mail-in rebate

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Its Not Important said:

Really? I wasn't aware about that.... is the difference that noticeable?

Well, not really, but when transferring large files, yes.

 

Anyways:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Windows 10 Kinguin ($30.00)
Total: $804.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-30 14:54 EDT-0400

[Navbryce]

Don't get a 3TB Seagate Barracuda. 3TB Barracudas have a weirdly high failure rates compared to its 1TB and 2TB Barracuda counterparts and other manufacturer's 3TB models.  https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/ 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Navbryce said:

Don't get a 3TB Seagate Barracuda. 3TB Barracudas have a weirdly high failure rates compared to the 1TB and 2TB counterparts.  https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/ 

That's the older model, this one is fine.

[DarkBlade2117]

4 minutes ago, JDE said:

But the SSD...

 

It's horrible.

lol bit of a bold statement, it's isn't that bad. Actually owning it, not to bad and you need to think about it, in your head the SL308 is likely faster on paper but in day to day usage I bet you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Not saying he should get it but when found on sale ect it isn't a bad deal, like I got mine for $40. Though like you said, the extra $4 is likely worth it just for the better build quality in general

[Navbryce]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

That's the older model, this one is fine.

That's just what they want you to think  I'm just skeptical now because I bought two of them, and they both failed--they were older models.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Navbryce said:

That's just what they want you to think  I'm just hesitant now because I bought two of them, and they both failed--they were older models.

But seriously, this one is fine. It's the "Barracuda Compute"

 

It's a newer model.

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, Navbryce said:

That's just what they want you to think  I'm just skeptical now because I bought two of them, and they both failed--they were older models.

Backblaze is super unreliable. The failure rate for those weren't nearly that high and I've owned 3 Seagate drives, my only problem? They are noisy. 

Anyways... I suggest this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZjpYZ8

Also, How much is that RX 460 you're buying going for?

[Jay Arch]

Woa, thank you for all the replies. 

If it is a better ssd for a few bucks more then hell yea i'll swap it. 

I might just simply switch the barracuda if it has a history of failure and being noisy. Even if it is a newer model i don't want to save any important files that I may or may not loose.

The RX 460 was posted 2 days ago for 80 dollars. I found similar ones online for around 100 to 120 dollars new.

[TVwazhere]

15 minutes ago, Jay Arch said:

Trying to build a Hybrid computer for Architectural software such as AutoCAD, Revit, and SketchUP 

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)

(CAD Tech opinion)

 

Ryzen 5 will be good for the rendering process for Revit (various views of each room, exterior, etc), which is admittedly much more common to do than in the mechanical oriented programs like Inventor and solidworks. However regular day to day executions in both Revit and AutoCAD are still single thread based, so it wont be "as fast" as an Intell 7700K for example. Regardless, $200 for a good 6 core is hard to argue against. It's also good that Autodesk programs are not very GPU stressful at all, so a RX460 will not hinder your performance at all.

[Jay Arch]

2 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

(CAD Tech opinion)

 

Ryzen 5 will be good for the rendering process for Revit (various views of each room, exterior, etc), which is admittedly much more common to do than in the mechanical oriented programs like Inventor and solidworks. However regular day to day executions in both Revit and AutoCAD are still single thread based, so it wont be "as fast" as an Intell 7700K for example. Regardless, $200 for a good 6 core is hard to argue against. It's also good that Autodesk programs are not very GPU stressful at all, so a RX460 will not hinder your performance at all.

You sir are simply epic. I kinda figured but wasn't exactly sure if regular cad tasks would be single thread but i did want to leave room for solidworks or inventor if i ever needed it for the future (I'm just starting my career as an architect but the possibility for engineering isn't so far off either.) I was mostly worried about that RX 460 but it seems like an acceptable choice for starters at least.  

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, JDE said:

Well, not really, but when transferring large files, yes.

 

Anyways:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Windows 10 Kinguin ($30.00)
Total: $804.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-30 14:54 EDT-0400

You went overkill with PSU for a RX 460 build and a stock cooler is more than  enough 

[TVwazhere]

7 minutes ago, Jay Arch said:

You sir are simply epic.