Threadripper 16c/32t rumored to cost $849

[DarkBlade2117]

Quote

If recent reports hold true, this entry-level Threadripper 1998 will come in at $849. Now, let's be honest - this seems like an immensely optimistic value, undercutting even Intel's 10-core 7900X, which has been announced at $999 (in tray quantities.) That's over 6 more cores and 12 more threads for $150 less. And let's just say that AMD's IPC isn't that much lower than Intel's to justify such an aggressive undercutting, a high-volume approach to the market.

 

If true, that would really catch Intel off guard and I wouldn't be all that surprised if they lowered their prices of Sky-Lake X further. I wouldn't be to shocked if it made them scramble even more.

 

ource: https://www.techpowerup.com/234114/amds-entry-level-16-core-32-thread-threadripper-to-reportedly-cost-usd-849

[79wjd]

ur l8 m8 

 

 

[samcool55]

Well, that's one dead X299 platform in that case...

Unless Intel becomes consumer friendly and competitive (which will likely not happen, knowing intel...)

[cj09beira]

i posted on a closed thread :-)

[Max_Settings]

That would be an incredible price, but there are I few concerns I have with the Threadripper platform. Primarily, from what I've seen pretty much all Threadripper boards require 2 8 pin CPU power cables, because Threadripper is two 1800Xs put to together, and not many PSUs come with two 8pin cables, so you will have to get custom cables. The second is that the CPU itself is massive, because it's two 1800Xs put together, I'm not sure if it will be compatible with virtually all CPU coolers because of the much larger size.

[cj09beira]

Just now, Max_Settings said:

That would be an incredible price, but there are I few concerns I have with the Threadripper platform. Primarily, from what I've seen pretty much all Threadripper boards require 2 8 pin CPU power cables, because Threadripper is two 1800Xs put to together, and not many PSUs come with two 8pin cables, so you will have to get custom cables. The second is that the CPU itself is massive, because it's two 1800Xs put together, I'm not sure if it will be compatible with virtually all CPU coolers because of the much larger size.

you won't need to plug both if you aren't overclocking and /or using a 16 core cpu

[Max_Settings]

Just now, cj09beira said:

you won't need to plug both if you aren't overclocking and /or using a 16 core cpu

But assuming you are doing both that concern is valid, and the CPU cooler is still relevant

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

That would be an incredible price, but there are I few concerns I have with the Threadripper platform. Primarily, from what I've seen pretty much all Threadripper boards require 2 8 pin CPU power cables, because Threadripper is two 1800Xs put to together, and not many PSUs come with two 8pin cables, so you will have to get custom cables. The second is that the CPU itself is massive, because it's two 1800Xs put together, I'm not sure if it will be compatible with virtually all CPU coolers because of the much larger size.

Well, you have $850 to spend on a compatible cooler and still end up cheaper than a 7960x. There's also a pretty solid chance that the 7960x would also require two 8 EPS cables and many high end PSUs (which is what should be used with a 16c/32t cpu) will also have dual EPS cables.

[Max_Settings]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Well, you have $850 to spend on a compatible cooler and still end up cheaper than a 7960x. There's also a pretty solid chance that the 7960x would also require two 8 EPS cables and many high end PSUs (which is what should be used with a 16c/32t cpu) will also have dual EPS cables.

Yeah, I mentioned that most don;t though. I have an 850W and I only have one. But what about my concern about CPU coolers

[cj09beira]

Just now, Max_Settings said:

But assuming you are doing both that concern is valid, and the CPU cooler is still relevant

but again, if you are going to use a 16 core cpu/even a 10/12 for that matter you would need a good power supply.

the cpu part: we still dont know where they have the dies, and depending on where they have them it might not be a problem, we have to wait for more info

[79wjd]

13 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

Yeah, I mentioned that most don;t though. I have an 850W and I only have one. But what about my concern about CPU coolers

 

14 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Well, you have $850 to spend on a compatible cooler and still end up cheaper than a 7960x. There's also a pretty solid chance that the 7960x would also require two 8 EPS cables and many high end PSUs (which is what should be used with a 16c/32t cpu) will also have dual EPS cables.

Compatible coolers will be released. 

[yathis]

35 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

 

If true, that would really catch Intel off guard and I wouldn't be all that surprised if they lowered their prices of Sky-Lake X further. I wouldn't be to shocked if it made them scramble even more.

 

ource: https://www.techpowerup.com/234114/amds-entry-level-16-core-32-thread-threadripper-to-reportedly-cost-usd-849

I highly doubt it will catch Intel off guard as Intel as shit lined up and ready to go as they are just doing minimal steps or as small steps as possible keeping ahead of AMD. This will be confirmed in the next releases.

[StealthArsenal]

Intel was 100-percent caught off guard by threadripper.  The shear fact that the 7960X probably won't come out until next year and the 14/16 core cpus might also be delayed screams they just announced something to one up AMD.  There is also the noise of a 2066-v3 socket just for the TDP that those cpus are going to require.  It's a botched release anyway you look at it.  I am an Intel fan, but I have to hand it to AMD, they are doing good thus far. 

[DarkBlade2117]

16 minutes ago, yathis said:

I highly doubt it will catch Intel off guard as Intel as shit lined up and ready to go as they are just doing minimal steps or as small steps as possible keeping ahead of AMD. This will be confirmed in the next releases.

Intel doesn't even know what they're releasing yet. They've got names but no official TDPs, Clock speeds ect are confirmed. Even the board partners weren't expecting an 18c CPU and the board partners are confused as fuck right now about what is going on

[Dash Lambda]

20 minutes ago, yathis said:

I highly doubt it will catch Intel off guard as Intel as shit lined up and ready to go as they are just doing minimal steps or as small steps as possible keeping ahead of AMD. This will be confirmed in the next releases.

Look a little closer. Intel's not just caught off guard, it's flailing. Already.

[cj09beira]

22 minutes ago, yathis said:

I highly doubt it will catch Intel off guard as Intel as shit lined up and ready to go as they are just doing minimal steps or as small steps as possible keeping ahead of AMD. This will be confirmed in the next releases.

they were cought  totally of guard, proven by the fact that intel didn't give any details on their 18 cores chip, they kept the pricing pretty high, which i think is to try and give the impression that their hardware is better, which is debatable at best.

the pricing done by amd is so low that intel will probably not even bother compete with.

it seems to me that threadripper will be enough to make a good dent in intel's market, and preparing the soil for zen 2 with probably higher clocks and ipc, which should make it easier for those that really need good ipc for some reason or another.

btw  i saw a video the other day of Steve Jobs talking about the problem of being a company controlling a monopoly and what he said was that because they already have most of the market, people that are great at making good products dont have much to off the company so they dont get promoted as much, on the other hand marketing is still very useful so those guys are promoted and what you get is a company run by market people so when a competitor shows up meaning business the guys that would know what product to release aren't running the company so its easier for the competitor to steal market share 

[yathis]

Oh maybe for Threadripper high core count stuff, but thats all industry shit, not us folks here. Them folks over there, industry types dont care about money. But what I am saying is Intels next tick tock thingy they do, will be bigger steps there and everywhere, I am pretty confident about that.

 

I view it as why would Intel jump so far ahead without any reason too. They can crawl and profit with no need to jump. They jump they lose money.

[cj09beira]

13 minutes ago, yathis said:

Oh maybe for Threadripper high core count stuff, but thats all industry shit, not us folks here. Them folks over there, industry types dont care about money. But what I am saying is Intels next tick tock thingy they do, will be bigger steps there and everywhere, I am pretty confident about that.

 

I view it as why would Intel jump so far ahead without any reason too. They can crawl and profit with no need to jump. They jump they lose money.

In every single are of the market cost analysis are done. Imagine you are buying 100 pcs 800 bucks each just for the cpu adds up rather quickly boom 8 grand of extra cost, Unless a company runs in an area where profits are really high all. Or its that time of the year where spending money is better for you because you pay less tax

[DarkBlade2117]

20 minutes ago, yathis said:

Oh maybe for Threadripper high core count stuff, but thats all industry shit, not us folks here. Them folks over there, industry types dont care about money. But what I am saying is Intels next tick tock thingy they do, will be bigger steps there and everywhere, I am pretty confident about that.

 

I view it as why would Intel jump so far ahead without any reason too. They can crawl and profit with no need to jump. They jump they lose money.

X299 and Sky-Lake X isn't going to launch until at least 2Q 2018 my man. Their next Tick Tock isn't coming until 2019 at the earliest

[yathis]

12 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

X299 and Sky-Lake X isn't going to launch until at least 2Q 2018 my man. Their next Tick Tock isn't coming until 2019 at the earliest

That is exactly my point. They got plenty of time to throw in major advances when the time comes to release. They probably got shit up their sleeve and waiting to be unleashed unto us measly peasants.