rx 560 4gb or gtx 1050

[BenasBr]

Gtx 1050 is better in dx 11 but rx 560 is better in dx12 does this even matter? Cause only new games will be dx 12 and rx 560 wont run them anyway. Which one would you get? 

[EPPHO]

1050 has more raw performance as far as i know 

[The Sloth]

rx560 is better but it will depend on what game you play, how much do you want to spend? get a used 970, if you can spend a bit more. 

[BenasBr]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

rx560  is better, how much do you want to spend? get a used 970, if you can spend a bit more. 

The graph is on DOOM. As far as I know all amd gpus run better on doom vulkan. And nobody is selling 970 for that price here ;(

[Energycore]

Looks like they're about on par with each other with the usual difference between DX11/older titles and DX12/newer titles. I would get the 560 personally because it's more fun to overclock (can hit 1450MHz with it). But that's me, you may not care about overclocking at all.

[The Sloth]

Just now, BenasBr said:

The graph is on DOOM. As far as I know all amd gpus run better on doom vulkan. And nobody is selling 970 for that price here ;(

this should be better, it will depend on what games you play overall, AMD GPUs are better in DX 12 and Vulcan. 

[BenasBr]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Looks like they're about on par with each other with the usual difference between DX11/older titles and DX12/newer titles. I would get the 560 personally because it's more fun to overclock (can hit 1450MHz with it). But that's me, you may not care about overclocking at all.

I'd be scared to overclock. I know something would go wrong.

[EPPHO]

6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

rx560 is better but it will depend on what game you play, how much do you want to spend? get a used 970, if you can spend a bit more. 

DOOM for comparison?

[Energycore]

Just now, BenasBr said:

I'd be scared to overclock. I know something would go wrong.

Nah.

The worst thing you can do to it is that it crashes and you have to restart.

 

You can't kill your GPU by overclocking it with the conventional means (which is to say, just using WattMan or Afterburner or some other software). These days GPUs and their driver software have a lot of fail safe measures built in. OC away

[The Sloth]

Just now, frozeNNN said:

DOOM for comparison?

it's a very well optimized game that takes advantage of the hardware

[BenasBr]

Just now, Energycore said:

Nah.

The worst thing you can do to it is that it crashes and you have to restart.

 

You can't kill your GPU by overclocking it with the conventional means (which is to say, just using WattMan or Afterburner or some other software). These days GPUs and their driver software have a lot of fail safe measures built in. OC away

Ok If I overclocked rx 560 would it outperform gtx 1050 on dx 11?

[EPPHO]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

it's a very well optimized game that takes advantage of the hardware

Which heavily benefits from AMD cards.

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, frozeNNN said:

Which heavily benefits from AMD cards.

not exactly, it benefits cards that have good Vulcan support. i know Doom is a bit of an unfair comparison for now, overall the rx560 seems like a good card, with a good overclock. 

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

not exactly, it benefits cards that have good DX12 and Vulcan support.

Which is exactly why it's unfair.

only AMD cards have good Vulcan and DX12 support, and while this is a good thing to have, it's not something that will be used in all games, and most games will actually just use DX11, so for now, it's a better comparison to use a DX11 game that doesn't have any Nvidia or AMD sponsorship/help/gimping.

[Energycore]

Just now, BenasBr said:

Ok If I overclocked rx 560 would it outperform gtx 1050 on dx 11?

On some games the difference is quite steep, but generally from the graphs I infer that where the 560 wins, it wins by more than the 1050 (but the 1050 wins in more games, at least out of Gamersnexus' testing suite). On the Gamersnexus review you can actually see how an overclocked 560 will perform.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2908-sapphire-rx-560-pulse-oc-review-vs-gtx-1050/page-4

 

In general, once overclocked the 560 holds its own in bad ground and dominates in stuff like DOOM.

[Energycore]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

Which is exactly why it's unfair.

only AMD cards have good Vulcan and DX12 support, and while this is a good thing to have, it's not something that will be used in all games, and most games will actually just use DX11, so for now, it's a better comparison to use a DX11 game that doesn't have any Nvidia or AMD sponsorship/help/gimping.

Hell no.

 

It's a better comparison to use as many games as your time allows. Just using one or another will give you as inaccurate a reading regardless of whether it's DOOM or Mass Effect: Andromeda. I get that it would be ideal to find a game that very much didn't benefit any side but unfortunately that won't happen. Different code will execute differently on hardware and will inherently benefit one or another architecture more than the other. This is why I like to link a review with many games and not just one or just a 3DMark score.

[BenasBr]

By looking at the 3d mark score I think I'm gonna get msi gtx 1050 oc

[RadiatingLight]

3 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Hell no.

 

It's a better comparison to use as many games as your time allows. Just using one or another will give you as inaccurate a reading regardless of whether it's DOOM or Mass Effect: Andromeda. I get that it would be ideal to find a game that very much didn't benefit any side but unfortunately that won't happen. Different code will execute differently on hardware and will inherently benefit one or another architecture more than the other. This is why I like to link a review with many games and not just one or just a 3DMark score.

Yes,

I was just saying that if you were to only use one, you should use a nonbiased game.

 

Ideally, you would always test as many games as possible and average the scores out.

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, BenasBr said:

By looking at the 3d mark score I think I'm gonna get msi gtx 1050 oc

yeah, I think it's the slightly better card.

as long as it's not way more expensive, get the 1050

[BenasBr]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

yeah, I think it's the slightly better card.

as long as it's not way more expensive, get the 1050

same price

[RadiatingLight]

2 minutes ago, BenasBr said:

same price

get the 1050 then.

[Energycore]

Just now, BenasBr said:

same price

Try to hit 1900MHz on it

[BenasBr]

Just now, Energycore said:

Try to hit 1900MHz on it

on 1050?

[Energycore]

Just now, BenasBr said:

on 1050?

yeah

[BenasBr]

Just now, Energycore said:

yeah

Ok. I hope it doesn't catch on fire