Manually unlock a processor?

[H0R53]

Is there a way to manually unlock a processor or is it just a stupid idea?

[Guest]

Not possible. Buy an unlocked processor if you want to overclock (Intel: xxxxK or Extreme Edition, AMD: Everything that has "Ryzen" in it's name and some older ones)

[rn8686]

The microcode prevents that, cant be done. 

[H0R53]

Just now, rn8686 said:

The microcode prevents that, cant be done. 

And if I update the microcodes myself? It's entirely possible.

 

Just now, FTL said:

Not possible. Buy an unlocked processor if you want to overclock (Intel: xxxxK, AMD: Everything that has Ryzen in it's name and some older ones)

Yeah I'd rather not spend $300 on a new processor just for OC'ing. I have an E3 1240, it kicks ass.

[SeanAngelo]

5 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

Is there a way to manually unlock a processor or is it just a stupid idea?

you cant

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, H0R53 said:

And if I update the microcodes myself? It's entirely possible.

Lmao GL with that

[domandric034]

4 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

And if I update the microcodes myself? It's entirely possible.

 

Yeah if you get hands on source code for that microcode and if you can get hands on source code for BIOS.

[H0R53]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Lmao GL with that

I've added Xeon microcodes to a factory Dell board, but that was with a guide.

 

So the microcodes dictate whether the multiplier is set? I've locked my E3 1240 at the 37th step multiplier (3.7GHz, which is actually the turbo speed) so it never throttles (always at said speed).

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

And if I update the microcodes myself? It's entirely possible.

 

Yeah I'd rather not spend $300 on a new processor just for OC'ing. I have an E3 1240, it kicks ass.

Pretty sure Microcodes are given out by the manufactorer itself, unless intel screws up, your processor ain't unlocking itself.

[FloRolf]

5 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

And if I update the microcodes myself? It's entirely possible.

If you pull this off i'll gladly call you "1337_Elite_HaxXx0r_9001" from now on.

[H0R53]

4 hours ago, FTL said:

Pretty sure Microcodes are given out by the manufactorer itself, unless intel screws up, your processor ain't unlocking itself.

Depending on what BIOS the motherboard has, you can grab the binaries from %appdata%.

Where can I get engineering samples?

4 hours ago, FloRolf said:

If you pull this off i'll gladly call you "1337_Elite_HaxXx0r_9001" from now on.

It depends on how hard it is for my particular CPU and my BIOS format.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, H0R53 said:

Depending on what BIOS the motherboard has, you can grab the binaries from %appdata%.

 

Where can I get engineering samples?

No idea what you are talking about. Nobody has ever unlocked the multiplier of a modern locked CPU.

4 hours ago, H0R53 said:

It depends on how hard it is for my particular CPU and my BIOS format.

i.e. probaly impossible

[rn8686]

9 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

And if I update the microcodes myself? It's entirely possible.

I would love if it worked, good luck with that. 

[H0R53]

2 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

I would love if it worked, good luck with that. 

Found the microcodes. Now I need to do some RnD as to what the fuck is what.

After that, Intel has utilities to insert microcodes into a new BIOS binary.

microcode.txt

[domandric034]

1 minute ago, H0R53 said:

Found the microcodes. Now I need to do some RnD as to what the fuck is what.

After that, Intel has utilities to insert microcodes into a new BIOS binary.

microcode.txt

Holy shit. I now know how big pain is to make CPU and BIOS and motherboard

[manikyath]

well.. first you become intimately familiar with x86 assembly, then you reverse engineer intel's microcode, then you apply a patch to make a locked chip show up as unlocked, and then you realise that between the OC potential of BCLK and the time you just spent, you might as well just not bothered.

 

if you need any more clarification on if it's a stupid idea or not, i'll put it like this: i'm only here because of the combination of that title, and your username. i'm not saying more for the sake of avoiding arguments.

[Curious Pineapple]

Procure unlocked processor, insert into board and now you have an unlocked processor. Simples

[vorticalbox]

14 minutes ago, manikyath said:

well.. first you become intimately familiar with x86 assembly, then you reverse engineer intel's microcode, then you apply a patch to make a locked chip show up as unlocked, and then you realise that between the OC potential of BCLK and the time you just spent, you might as well just not bothered.

 

if you need any more clarification on if it's a stupid idea or not, i'll put it like this: i'm only here because of the combination of that title, and your username. i'm not saying more for the sake of avoiding arguments.

wouldn't unlocking allow for multiplier overclock? 

[Jesmo]

You can unlock and overclock your cpu to 64 ghz if you join my church of OC (a break out religion of the PC Masterrace), we praise high voltage, faster ram speeds and good quality vrms. 

[manikyath]

Just now, vorticalbox said:

wouldn't unlocking allow for multiplier overclock? 

yes, and BCLK is something you can do without bothering with this entire mess.

 

which.. between the potential of that, and the amount of time you'd need to figure this out, your time would have to be very invaluable to make it worth the experience.

[H0R53]

2 hours ago, manikyath said:

yes, and BCLK is something you can do without bothering with this entire mess.

 

which.. between the potential of that, and the amount of time you'd need to figure this out, your time would have to be very invaluable to make it worth the experience.

Idk...Sandy Bridge is OP as hell...and an unlocked Xeon...After I know how to do it I can continue to do it with new processors too...Gonna go post on Bios-mods.com

[H0R53]

On 5/28/2017 at 7:59 AM, FloRolf said:

If you pull this off i'll gladly call you "1337_Elite_HaxXx0r_9001" from now on.

 

On 5/28/2017 at 8:07 AM, H0R53 said:

Found the microcodes. Now I need to do some RnD as to what the fuck is what.

After that, Intel has utilities to insert microcodes into a new BIOS binary.

microcode.txt

 

[FloRolf]

4 hours ago, H0R53 said:

 

 

Please validate and show me here:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e3_1240/

 

You should be #1 in every benchmark

[dexT]

Sick good job. I might be hitting you up in the future.

5 hours ago, FloRolf said:

Please validate and show me here:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e3_1240/

 

You should be #1 in every benchmark

No it'll strip all of those gold trophys from my team

 

EDIT: Run XTU and PCMark. Team MLG has those... ew.

Edited August 25, 2017 by dexT

[H0R53]

5 hours ago, FloRolf said:

Please validate and show me here:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e3_1240/

 

You should be #1 in every benchmark

I clicked "validate" and nothing happened, does it automatically send? I'm using an old version of CPU-Z. I just use it for clock validation on BSEL mods like on LGA 77x.

 

I also clicked "Bench" and "Submit" but nothing happened either.

 

2 minutes ago, dexT said:

Sick good job. I might be hitting you up in the future.

No it'll strip all of those gold trophys from my team

As far as I can tell each microcode is uniquely parsed for each CPU, so a decryption method for one set of codes won't necessarily work for a different CPU, even if it's the same family.

 

I'm gonna see what I can do with my i5 3470. I have two of them so if I break one there's no loss.