Future Ryzen gaming build

[Urishima]

Hello fine fellows.

 

you were a big help when I cobbled together my current shitposting station. Now I require your help once more.

 

So this build here, hot or not?

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/Urishima/saved/JV4mGX

 

A few notes:

- The GPU is a placeholder. It'll either be this one or a similarly priced VEGA card... If they ever come out

- Gaming will be at 1080p for starters, but I plan on buying a 1440p monitor at some point

- RAM kit is the only one, according to Techdeals, that runs at the advertised 3200 MHz out of the box with Ryzen

- PSU is overkill because I will eventually install a 2nd GPU to set up VFIO, running Linux as a host and Win10 for the guest

 

Cherio...

[Bazilias]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/CW843F

[Coaxialgamer]

Here's what i came up with :

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/CWdrsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/CWdrsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€322.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (€54.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€145.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€128.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€149.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€51.80 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB EX Video Card  (€385.67) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.85) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€90.41 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1429.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-19 17:36 CEST+0200

 

I left the gpu untouched , as you said it is a placeholder . I also didn't change the case . figured that was personnal preference ( and i agree , it looks great ).

Ram can actually be run at 3200 speeds given a bit of adjustements , and the improvements from 2933 to 3200 aren't that huge compared to say 2133 ; not worth 50$ more imo.

I swapped out the drives , giving you more storage . NVME doesn't give any joticeable speedup in boot/load times over sata, and i figured the extra capacity would be nice.

PSU should have enough room.

 

Also , if you wanted , you could drop the expensive case , go for a b350 board , an r5 1600 , potentially only go for a 250gb drive , along cheaper ram and cooler , THEN spend extra on the gpu.

[TVwazhere]

11 minutes ago, Urishima said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/Urishima/saved/JV4mGX

Only thing I would add would be a HDD for storage since 256 gb will be filled in a moments time. https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006

[Sanctorum]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€230.00) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€91.26 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€128.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: ADATA - Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€81.03 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  (€269.39 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  (€107.03 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€90.41 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1047.29

 

Get the 1600, don't bother with the 1600x. If you DO get the 1600x, you'll need to buy an aftermarket cooler as well which puts the price up, whereas you could get the cheaper 1600 and run the stock cooler. Absolutely no need to spend so much money on mobo, especially with an R5. No reason to get a GTX 1070 for 1080p, an RX 580 is more than enough for 1080p and will easily handle 1440p, especially if you add a 2nd. 

[genexis_x]

About 200 Euros cheaper, swapped CPU to Ryzen 1700:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€322.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (€45.03 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€78.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€128.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€94.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (€401.78 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case  (€85.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€71.94 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1278.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-19 18:31 CEST+0200

[Coaxialgamer]

45 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

About 200 Euros cheaper, swapped CPU to Ryzen 1700:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€322.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (€45.03 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€78.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€128.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€94.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (€401.78 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case  (€85.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€71.94 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1278.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-19 18:31 CEST+0200

He did say he wanted more wattage though...

[Urishima]

5 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

especially if you add a 2nd. 

The two cards wont be working together in this use-case.

 

x370 chipset board is non-negotionable for me, again because of my use-case. I expect x370 boards to be better for what I am planning, once they get around to fixing the IOMMU grouping issue.

5 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

I would probably just transplant my existing 2 1TB drives from my old gaming rig. They are older, but it's storage.

5 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€322.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (€54.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Doesn't the R7 1700 already come with a decent cooler?

5 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

Not sure about that one, opinions on it seem to be mixed, specifically about RAM compatability.

 

8 core CPU is tempting. Gives me more room to muck about with core allocation between host and VM. I like it.

[Coaxialgamer]

18 minutes ago, Urishima said:

The two cards wont be working together in this use-case.

 

x370 chipset board is non-negotionable for me, again because of my use-case. I expect x370 boards to be better for what I am planning, once they get around to fixing the IOMMU grouping issue.

I would probably just transplant my existing 2 1TB drives from my old gaming rig. They are older, but it's storage.

Doesn't the R7 1700 already come with a decent cooler?

Not sure about that one, opinions on it seem to be mixed, specifically about RAM compatability.

 

8 core CPU is tempting. Gives me more room to muck about with core allocation between host and VM. I like it.

you could always drop the aftermarket cooler and get a more expensive board. 

wraith cooler is fairly quiet in my experience . just dont expect 4ghz with it .

[Urishima]

3 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

you could always drop the aftermarket cooler and get a more expensive board. 

wraith cooler is fairly quiet in my experience . just dont expect 4ghz with it .

Custom Liquid cooling is something I am thinking about, but not until much later. I mean, that's often another 1000 bucks to invest.

 

I think I would go with the wraith cooler at the start and then see where it goes.

 

Would you go for the Taichi or the Corsshair VI Hero instead, if I chose to invest in a more expensive board instead of the cooler? I know Buildzoid has a very high opinion of that board.

[ArcticSalad]

I would get a cheaper PSU and RAM and use the money saved for a 1700. There are loads of quality PSUs and 3200MHz RAM for cheaper.

[Coaxialgamer]

1 minute ago, Urishima said:

Custom Liquid cooling is something I am thinking about, but not until much later. I mean, that's often another 1000 bucks to invest.

 

I think I would go with the wraith cooler at the start and then see where it goes.

 

Would you go for the Taichi or the Corsshair VI Hero instead, if I chose to invest in a more expensive board instead of the cooler? I know Buildzoid has a very high opinion of that board.

Honestly, they both are high quality boards, and i would value buildzoid's advice. I'd get whichever one ends up being cheaper ( which is probably the taichi). 

[Urishima]

6 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Honestly, they both are high quality boards, and i would value buildzoid's advice. I'd get whichever one ends up being cheaper ( which is probably the taichi). 

Ok, so if I take out the HDDs and the cooler and put in the Crosshair board, I would end up with this:

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JjD7Fd

 

Note that I removed the shipping costs from everything except the CPU, basically make it look like I would order it all at once and only pay shipping once. Probably not how I am going to end up doing it though.

 

I am not entirely sure about that PSU though. The amount of cables seems a little lackluster.

[Sanctorum]

Fair enough if X370 chipset its required, but you still don't need to spend THAT much on an X370 board.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€322.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€162.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€128.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€149.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  (€269.39 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  (€106.43 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€90.41 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1229.34
 

R7 and X370 board. The RX 580 is still plenty for 1080p, and will absolutely comfortably handle 1440p. Not much point buying a GPU now that you may utilise later. That said, if you do get the GTX 1070 with this, you'll be right around the 1350e mark. Alternative motherboard choice;

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/mfBrxr/msi-x370-gaming-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-x370-gaming-pro

 

You can go with the Crosshair or Taichi if you want, but again, there really isn't a necessity to pay more than 200 euros for a motherboard IMO.

[Coaxialgamer]

12 hours ago, Urishima said:

Ok, so if I take out the HDDs and the cooler and put in the Crosshair board, I would end up with this:

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JjD7Fd

 

Note that I removed the shipping costs from everything except the CPU, basically make it look like I would order it all at once and only pay shipping once. Probably not how I am going to end up doing it though.

 

I am not entirely sure about that PSU though. The amount of cables seems a little lackluster.

It's a high quality unit and has 4 8 pin power connectors. 

Do you have any specific requirements for psu? 

[Urishima]

1 hour ago, Coaxialgamer said:

It's a high quality unit and has 4 8 pin power connectors. 

Do you have any specific requirements for psu? 

I see 2 8 pin and 4 6 pin connectors in the screenshots. You sure we are talking about the same PSU?

[Coaxialgamer]

1 minute ago, Urishima said:

I see 2 8 pin and 4 6 pin connectors in the screenshots. You sure we are talking about the same PSU?

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/R7V48d/seasonic-power-supply-ssr650rm

 

In the specs it says 4 2+6 pin  PCIE connectors , effectively 4 8 pin connectors.