AMD Vega with 16GB memory and 1600 MHz clock ( Confirmed )

[cj09beira]

2 hours ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

 

Wouldn't that mean that game devs would have to code for this? From what I gather if this is true then is memory allocation done on the games side or the GPU side? If it's done by the game side then the devs would have to code the game to allocate less memory which would not be very likely they would bother doing extra work just because AMD uses HBM2 in a low amount (4gb). Or is it on the display driver side and AMD can make it so it allocates less on the GPU side of things. Not sure I asked my questions as clearly as I'd like but yeah.

The game asks for it and its up to the driver to manage it ( i might be wrong though)

[cj09beira]

2 hours ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

 

Wouldn't that mean that game devs would have to code for this? From what I gather if this is true then is memory allocation done on the games side or the GPU side? If it's done by the game side then the devs would have to code the game to allocate less memory which would not be very likely they would bother doing extra work just because AMD uses HBM2 in a low amount (4gb). Or is it on the display driver side and AMD can make it so it allocates less on the GPU side of things. Not sure I asked my questions as clearly as I'd like but yeah.

The game asks for it and its up to the driver to manage it ( i might be wrong though)

[Valentyn]

AMD Teasing their Radeon Pro SSG again. Wonder if it'll have Vega inside.
 

 

[rattacko123]

The rumours are true http://pro.radeon.com/en-us/vega-frontier-edition/

[Valentyn]

1 minute ago, rattacko123 said:

The rumours are true http://pro.radeon.com/en-us/vega-frontier-edition/

 

Yes sir! Everything matches juuuust right. Considering the enterprise cards are usually clocked lower than the gaming high-end ones; let's hope RX Vega breaks that 1600Mhz barrier

[Drak3]

20 hours ago, Jito463 said:

Considering we have no HBM2 cards to test with, you're only speculating.  I suppose you could say the same about my post, though it is at least based on reports of the technology.

No, but the move to HBM2 won't change the speed vs capacity issue that we see with cards rocking 4GB of HBM vs those rocking 6+GB of GDDR5/5x.

@MadyTehWolfieis completely correct. The Fury X manages higher bandwidth than every consumer card Nvidia offers, but loses to the 980Ti (and probably the weaker 1060) the second a game actually requires more than 4GB of VRAM.

Of course, this is ignoring AMD's approach of disallowing excessive RAM allocation, because the effectiveness can change between not only games, but what version of that game, and the OS's resource allocation.

[Drak3]

17 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

 

Yes sir! Everything matches juuuust right. Considering the enterprise cards are usually clocked lower than the gaming high-end ones; let's hope RX Vega breaks that 1600Mhz barrier

Let's hope they don't get cheeky and push the first one with a clock of 1601MHz.

[DoctorWho1975]

5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Let's hope they don't get cheeky and push the first one with a clock of 1601MHz.

 

They would never do that... now 1600.01....

[Valentyn]

23 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Let's hope they don't get cheeky and push the first one with a clock of 1601MHz.

All it took was an AIO liquid cooler

[Drak3]

Just now, Valentyn said:

All it took was an AIO liquid cooler

No, it takes LN2. That additional 1MHz is a bitch.

[xAcid9]

Pixel fillrate only 90 GPixel/s? Is it because this is not for gaming?

[Valentyn]

11 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Pixel fillrate only 90 GPixel/s? Is it because this is not for gaming?

Correct it's a Pro card that competes against the Quadros and was benched live against the Tesla P100. 

 

[xAcid9]

2 hours ago, Valentyn said:

Correct it's a Pro card that competes against the Quadros and was benched live against the Tesla P100. 

 

But previous Firepro card have similar GP/s compare to their Radeon cards like W9100 vs 290x.

[Humbug]

2 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

Pixel fillrate only 90 GPixel/s? Is it because this is not for gaming?

so only 34% better than fury-x.

hmmm

 

but I guess Fiji outperformed hawai without a pixel fillrate edge... So hard to draw conclusions

[xAcid9]

1 hour ago, Humbug said:

so only 34% better than fury-x.

hmmm

 

but I guess Fiji outperformed hawai without a pixel fillrate edge... So hard to draw conclusions

Yeah, can't gouge the performance base on GP/s. 290x have 60% more GP/s compare to 480 but perform the same.

[Carclis]

15 hours ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

Huh that's pretty good, wonder how it does when dev like cod like to load the whole game into Vram. past 3 cod games say 8+GB Vram cause they are stupid. Either way that's pretty cool. 

Another example was shown at AMD's last presentation (Financial Analyst Day).
 

As mentioned in the video the Vega card was artificially limited to 2GB of VRAM and we know from Techpowerup how much VRAM can use and it really just shows how wasteful games can be (or how far behind memory bandwidth is).

[Carclis]

-double

[laminutederire]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 5:24 AM, MadyTehWolfie said:

Modern games now use a lot of Vram. 4gb is the bare minimum and for a lot of the games now will not cut it especially at higher res which is what cards like the 1080 and 1080ti are made for and to a certain degree the 1070. Having 4gb is a no no and was barely acceptable back when the 900 series was out.

Seeing I can run mirror's edge catalyst in hyper settings with a supposedly needed 8GB of Vram no matter what, while I only have a 4GB Fury... it is acceptable if well utilized.

[Andreas Lilja]

Kinda regretting my 1080Ti purchase.

 

That thing will probably be backordered for months tho.

[IceCold008]

8 hours ago, Raskolnikov said:

Kinda regretting my 1080Ti purchase.

 

That thing will probably be backordered for months tho.

Dont be the 1080ti is a beast of a card and until vega actually gets released and the benchmarks comes out. Why feel sorry. I myself have got a GTX 1080ti and im not worried at all. Worse case is that Vega is faster than 1080ti but if by some random fate that Vega is faster i cant see it being a huge leap faster.

Be happy with your puchase and tbh you should no that NO Matter what GPU or CPU you buy your allways going to get it outdated eventually. That PC tech for you.