URGENT HELP

[sarggames]

Can you tell me good method to compare cpu?eg

xeon e5 2690 v2 vs ryzen 1700x

i have to decide soon

deal is ending soon both for same price.

any software ?

does cinebench results depend on gpu in render test.?

The argument for ryzen over i7 is games will support more threads in future .Now overall which cpu have more power considering all threads fully used?No intention of overclocking(minute may be exception)

[WkdPaul]

UserBench;

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Group-/3647vs10

 

AnandTech;

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/39

 

PassMark;

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

[Jack Kaye Pc Gamer]

Cinebench cpu test is only reliant on cpu so that is good for cpu

[The Sloth]

3 minutes ago, sarggames said:

ryzen 1700x

i would get this because

- newer 

- better IPC 

- better performance 

- cheaper to setup and maintain 

 

[sarggames]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

i would get this because

- newer 

- better IPC 

- better performance 

- cheaper to setup and maintain 

- more performance

i am getting for same price

[The Sloth]

Just now, sarggames said:

i am getting for same price

get the ryzen 1700, overclock it to 4ghz. 

[scottyseng]

Just now, sarggames said:

i am getting for same price

But the X99 or Cxxx series motherboards aren't as cheap as the AM4 boards.

 

I'd also have to tip it to Ryzen in this case.

[sarggames]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

get the ryzen 1700, overclock it to 4ghz. 

no overclocking and 1700x no 1700

[Jack Kaye Pc Gamer]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

i would get this because

- newer 

- better IPC 

- better performance 

- cheaper to setup and maintain 

- more performance

 

4 minutes ago, sarggames said:

Can you tell me good method to compare cpu?eg

xeon e5 2690 v2 vs ryzen 1700x

i have to decide soon

deal is ending soon both for same price.

any software ?

does cinebench results depend on gpu in render test.?

The argument for ryzen over i7 is games will support more threads in future .Now overall which cpu have more power considering all threads fully used?No intention of overclocking(minute may be exception)

ryzen will be better aswell as cheaper mobos with it

[sarggames]

Just now, Jack Kaye Pc Gamer said:

 

ryzen will be better aswell as cheaper mobos with it

that too i am getting for same price

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, sarggames said:

no overclocking and 1700x no 1700

then they are really close but I would go with ryzen 1700x.

[sarggames]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

then they are really close but I would go with ryzen 1700x.

how can i get numbers pls me not too smart

[sarggames]

pass mark and user bench sowing opposite results

[iRileyx]

1 minute ago, sarggames said:

how can i get numbers pls me not too smart

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-vs-Intel-Xeon-E5-2690-v2/3915vsm13436

[The Benjamins]

4 minutes ago, sarggames said:

how can i get numbers pls me not too smart

I googled Cinebench scores for each.

e5 2690 v2 got 1414 (2 cpus got 2827)

R7 1700x got 1527

 

https://us.rebusfarm.net/en/tempbench?view=benchmark

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-review,10.html

 

Cinebench is a good representative of CPU performance in multi threaded workloads.

[Simon771]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-E5-2690-v2-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/m13436vs3915

 

Ryzen seems to be around 30% better than Intel in this scenario.

In cinebench, Ryzen is again better.

 

But what will you be using it for?

If it's going to be some kind of server, I would probbably go with Intel, since it's still a bit more stable, and having more cores will allow you to have more hyper-v machines. If you are doing that ofc.

But then again, you would be investing in dead platform, while Ryzen is new, and there are new CPUs comming out in next 3-5 years, that will work on same socket as now. Those will be called Ryzen+. So aftter 3 - 7 years you will be able to upgrade your CPU.

But then again you could also upgrade to i7 6950X on that 2011 platform if you wanted to.

 

I'm not getting anywhere ... can't decide.

[sarggames]

8 hours ago, RKRiley said:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-vs-Intel-Xeon-E5-2690-v2/3915vsm13436

pass mark score tells opposite story.how to decide?

[sarggames]

8 hours ago, Simon771 said:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-E5-2690-v2-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/m13436vs3915

 

Ryzen seems to be around 30% better than Intel in this scenario.

In cinebench, Ryzen is again better.

 

But what will you be using it for?

If it's going to be some kind of server, I would probbably go with Intel, since it's still a bit more stable, and having more cores will allow you to have more hyper-v machines. If you are doing that ofc.

But then again, you would be investing in dead platform, while Ryzen is new, and there are new CPUs comming out in next 3-5 years, that will work on same socket as now. Those will be called Ryzen+. So aftter 3 - 7 years you will be able to upgrade your CPU.

But then again you could also upgrade to i7 6950X on that 2011 platform if you wanted to.

 

I'm not getting anywhere ... can't decide.

i use for gaming for 5 7 years..People say games will start using more threads which i think will happen.So over all which device have more Total power as passmark and cinebench tells opposite story.

[sarggames]

8 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

I googled Cinebench scores for each.

e5 2690 v2 got 1414 (2 cpus got 2827)

R7 1700x got 1527

 

https://us.rebusfarm.net/en/tempbench?view=benchmark

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-review,10.html

 

Cinebench is a good representative of CPU performance in multi threaded workloads.

pass mark and cinebech telling opposite story how to decide

[Simon771]

2 hours ago, sarggames said:

i use for gaming for 5 7 years..People say games will start using more threads which i think will happen.So over all which device have more Total power as passmark and cinebench tells opposite story.

For gaming ... go with Ryzen for sure.

[sarggames]

8 hours ago, Simon771 said:

For gaming ... go with Ryzen for sure.

explain please.If games start using more threads then in that situation which is better.

I am not talking about current games.

[typographie]

6 minutes ago, sarggames said:

explain please.If games start using more threads then in that situation which is better.

I am not talking about current games.

Both CPUs have 8 cores/16 threads, so the number of threads the game is 'using' is not a useful point of comparison.

 

That Xeon is 5 years old. It has Sandy Bridge's IPC, and a lower clock speed on top of that. Ryzen 7 is clearly going to be faster in virtually any task. If both are the same price, you're either getting a terrible deal on the Xeon CPU or an amazing deal on the Ryzen CPU.

[sarggames]

Just now, typographie said:

Both CPUs have 8 cores/16 threads, so the number of threads the game is 'using' is not relevant.

 

That Xeon is 5 years old. It has IPC comparable to Sandy Bridge, and a lower clock speed on top of that. Ryzen 7 is clearly going to be faster in virtually any task. If both are the same price, you're either getting a terrible deal on the Xeon CPU or an amazing deal on the Ryzen CPU.

xeon have 10 cores that is why i am confused

[typographie]

3 minutes ago, sarggames said:

xeon have 10 cores that is why i am confused

No, the number of cores it has depends on the model of Xeon. There are quad-core Xeons, and there are 14-core Xeons (I think).

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/64596/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2690-20M-Cache-2_90-GHz-8_00-GTs-Intel-QPI

I'm not seeing things, this model has eight Hyperthreaded cores, yes?

[sarggames]

Just now, typographie said:

No, the number of cores it has depends on the model.

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/64596/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2690-20M-Cache-2_90-GHz-8_00-GTs-Intel-QPI

I'm not seeing things, this says it has eight Hyperthreaded cores, yes?

v2 model