i7 4790K is INSANELY bottlenecking my GTX 1080 ti

[Arct1c0n]

1 minute ago, Kherm said:

I would recommend a Windows reinstall. 

 

If you're using Windows 10, go to settings > update & security > recovery > Reset this PC > Then, you can choose to "keep my files" to keep your files and reinstall Windows

Eh, that still leaves lots of residue files. Best way is save everything, boot from USB and wipe and reinstall from scratch.  Nothing runs like a squeaky clean and new windows build 

[Kherm]

Just now, Arct1c0n said:

Eh, that still leaves lots of residue files. Best way is save everything, boot from USB and wipe and reinstall from scratch.  Nothing runs like a squeaky clean and new windows build 

Okay, fair enough. However, you can follow those steps and choose "remove everything and reinstall Windows" for a factory fresh install

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, Arct1c0n said:

 Considering I also have a 4790k @ 4.7ghz via air and upgraded from a 1080 STRIX to a 1080 Ti strix last night  and saw a VERY nice FPS increase in all my games, I am going to have to say "Bullshit" 

 

 

 

1440p...sure...it's 77% more pixels than 1080p...OP is gaming at 1080p with a GTX 1080ti.

[App4that]

Not your CPU, you have Malware or something else going on. I run a 4790k and 2 980ti, never go over 60% utilization on the CPU.

[i_build_nanosuits]

9 minutes ago, App4that said:

Not your CPU, you have Malware or something else going on. I run a 4790k and 2 980ti, never go over 60% utilization on the CPU.

nahh in battlefield 1 and watch dogs 2 for example i'm seeing around 90% CPU usage quite often and i have nothing other than the game using CPU ressources...BUT i'm also gaming at 2560x1440 and my GPU load is 99%...if i lower the settings to medium, or if i lower resolution to 1080p the CPU can't keep up anymore and it's normal...it's not the CPU's fault, it's because you just end up with too much un-needed GPU horsepower...you know what i mean right.

[App4that]

2 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

nahh in battlefield 1 and watch dogs 2 for example i'm seeing around 90% CPU usage quite often and i have nothing other than the game using CPU ressources...BUT i'm also gaming at 2560x1440 and my GPU load is 99%...if i lower the settings to medium, or if i lower resolution to 1080p the CPU can't keep up anymore and it's normal...it's not the CPU's fault, it's because you just end up with too much un-needed GPU horsepower...you know what i mean right.

I haven't played WD2 but I was at 60% in BF1. One of the games that stuck out at causing that, usually sit around 15-30%.

 

But, I run games with everything other than Afterburner disabled, your antivirus is a big CPU hog. 

[brittains]

Hook up that 4k monitor kick up the resolution and see if it's still bottlenecking.

[JoostinOnline]

3 hours ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

Hell the 1080 bottle necks top cpu's when going over 60fps.

Well the 4790K is one of the top consumer CPU's. 

 

I don't think it should be struggling at 144hz 1080p.

[IceCold008]

Its your resolution thats for sure. Thats why i upgraded to 1440p from 1080p when i bought my gtx 1080ti.  And i have a 4770k and all the games im playing its the GPU which is at 100% not my CPU

 

1440P min with little bottlenecking and 4k with no bottlenecking. Your choice it dont matter if your 60hz or 144hz at 1080p. Its the resolution. The GTX 1080TI is just too powerful for that low resolution PERIOD. 

 

Your still going to get very good FPS at 1080p since its a lower resolution. Its just that your NOT taking FULL advantage "POWER" of your 1080ti at 1080p alot of lost power is going missing. Some games im getting nearly the same FPS at 1440p as i would at 1080p. See what i am saying. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

7 hours ago, App4that said:

I haven't played WD2 but I was at 60% in BF1. One of the games that stuck out at causing that, usually sit around 15-30%.

 

But, I run games with everything other than Afterburner disabled, your antivirus is a big CPU hog. 

i do not run an antivirus...never have, never will...i run geforce experience and afterburner, that's about it...BF1 is very funky with CPU utilisation...sometimes in a game i get 60% and then the map change and suddently it's in the 85 to 95% range...

Check this clip here i recorded this myself on my machine, nothing running other than shadowplay...check CPU usage:

see it even hit ans stick to 100% quite often...this was back when i was on the 980ti and hyper 212 cooler...

[VagabondWraith]

You're being bottlenecked. Even a 7700K at 4.9 will bottleneck at 1080p.

 

 

[TommyTwommy]

11 hours ago, Max_Settings said:

Not everyone can afford to buy a 144hz 1440p or 4K monitor also. So for now Im playing 1080p 144hz

But you can afford a gpu that costs more than my whole pc xddd

[Mick Naughty]

Well res is the problem. Smaller it is the more work it takes the CPU. My 1080 never went to 100% on 1080p either. Would also kick the cpus ass but this was on horrid bf1 before the updates.  

 

Why not put a real over clock on the 4790k and do a clean install of the driver. 

[MadyTehWolfie]

9 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

Well the 4790K is one of the top consumer CPU's. 

 

I don't think it should be struggling at 144hz 1080p.

Resolution doesn't effect CPU load. The game itself is the deciding factor on how many frames the CPU can render. The harder the game is on the CPU the lower the fps the CPU can render. For instance if in game A the GPU can redner 200fps but the CPU can only handle 150 your CPU is bottle necking your GPU. But if in game B your CPU can render 200 frames and your GPU can only render 120 your CPU will not see 100% load.

[JoostinOnline]

6 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

Resolution doesn't effect CPU load. The game itself is the deciding factor on how many frames the CPU can render. The harder the game is on the CPU the lower the fps the CPU can render. For instance if in game A the GPU can redner 200fps but the CPU can only handle 150 your CPU is bottle necking your GPU. But if in game B your CPU can render 200 frames and your GPU can only render 120 your CPU will not see 100% load.

Of course it affects CPU load.  Just not as much as GPU load.  More pixels means more calculations.  The 4790K is one of the most powerful consumer processors on the market.  No game should be bringing it to 100%.

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Of course it affects CPU load.  Just not as much as GPU load.  More pixels means more calculations.  The 4790K is one of the most powerful consumer processors on the market.  No game should be bringing it to 100%.

please check the video i posted a few post above...

And, NO...resolution does not affect CPU load...framerate does though.

[Silentprototipe]

Pfft what, Did the 4790k really age that fast? If so then jeez GPU's advance fast

[Mick Naughty]

Frame rate it's directly effect by res. I can get mine to ride 100% even with an older card on 1440. 

[Froody129]

8 minutes ago, silentprototipe said:

Pfft what, Did the 4790k really age that fast? If so then jeez GPU's advance fast

No it's OP buying a $700 GPU and being too cheap to buy a monitor to go with it. The 4790k is very relevant 

[othertomperson]

You don't have an issue. This is just what happens when you use a card designed for 4K or high refresh 1440p for 1080p. There isn't a CPU in existence that wouldn't bottleneck that GPU, because it's such an overpowered tool for the workload.

[JoostinOnline]

15 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

please check the video i posted a few post above...

And, NO...resolution does not affect CPU load...framerate does though.

I didn't find that video at all informative, because he didn't show any stats.  I did look into it elsewhere and you're right though.  Learned something new today.

1 minute ago, Froody129 said:

No it's OP buying a $700 GPU and being too cheap to buy a monitor to go with it. The 4790k is very relevant 

"Too cheap" is really harsh.  More like he just couldn't afford a monitor after spending over $1000 on a CPU and GPU.

[i_build_nanosuits]

3 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

No it's OP buying a $700 GPU and being too cheap to buy a monitor to go with it. The 4790k is very relevant 

 

Just now, othertomperson said:

You don't have an issue. This is just what happens when you use a card designed for 4K or high refresh 1440p for 1080p. There isn't a CPU in existence that wouldn't bottleneck that GPU, because it's such an overpowered tool for the workload.

exactly

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

I didn't find that video at all informative, because he didn't show any stats.  I did look into it elsewhere and you're right though.  Learned something new today.

no, i was talking about the battlefield 1 multiplayer video that i recorded, you can see all the stats from riva tuner in the upper right corner...check CPU load...only the game and shadowplay and afterburner running...CPU 4770k at 4.2ghz...

[Silentprototipe]

12 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

No it's OP buying a $700 GPU and being too cheap to buy a monitor to go with it. The 4790k is very relevant 

Huh...Ok seems fair enough

[MadyTehWolfie]

Bottom line CPU is not taxed by resolution. I'll post a link and a quote from someone who can articulate it better than I.

 

"CPU sets the frame up + handles all the AI/resource allocation and then passes the parameters to the GPU which then draws the frame. So the CPU does its thing sends the frame along to the GPU. The larger the frame and the more processing required the longer it takes for the GPU to finish. At low resolutions the frames are drawn much much faster therefore the CPU has to do alot more work setting up more frames. Of course using vSync limits you to 60FPS so the CPU strain wouldnt change regardless of resolution provided that your GPU can handle 60FPS at the larger resolution." (Sunnk)

 

It is the fact that at lower res the GPU pumps out more frames thus increasing the workload of the CPU. This isn't from resolution but from the GPU itself being able to render more frames thus making the CPU work harder. The GPU is limited by the CPU and the CPU by the GPU respectively. Not resolution. 

 

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/352014-33-usage-higher-resolutions

 

Edit: This is why reviewers use top tier cpu's when benchmarking games.