cad intensions

[Balaji]

hii,

     i want to opt for an laptop with 1050ti or 1050  and a quad core i5 for cad workslike auto cad , solid works ,catia 

the tasks i would don will not be too extreme but i will use for for moddelling and simulating no.of parts  typically of a car

i dont expext as smooth as gtx 1070 or 1080  WILL 1050ti surve my purpose???????

i am on tight budget howering around $900-1000$ so a cannot aford  1070 1080 laptops.

so pleASE post me your suggestion and any laptops that could my work

[Mr.Meerkat]

So....what's your query/question then?  

I don't think we can answer when it's only a "hi" and cad intensions doesn't make sense  

[Balaji]

sorry i accidentally hit submit

 

[Julian5]

So you are asking if a 1050ti is enough for car modeling?

[Balaji]

2 minutes ago, Julian5 said:

So you are asking if a 1050ti is enough for car modeling?

yeah exactly!

[genexis_x]

Seems like an i7 is more suitable for your needs. You can get laptop with i7 + 1050/1050TI for $900-$1000

 

However I suggest you to get used laptops with Quadro/Firepro GPUs for professional works like rendering, car modeling, CAD etc

[Balaji]

14 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Seems like an i7 is more suitable for your needs. You can get laptop with i7 + 1050/1050TI for $900-$1000

 

However I suggest you to get used laptops with Quadro/Firepro GPUs for professional works like rendering, car modeling, CAD etc

y used? arent they in budget friendly?

 

[genexis_x]

5 minutes ago, Balaji said:

y used? arent they in budget friendly?

New laptops with Quadro/Firepro GPUs are very expensive.

Still consumer GPUs like 1050/1050Ti will also work fine, just missing a few features compared to Quadro/Firepro GPUs.

[Balaji]

On 2017-4-8 at 9:00 PM, ZM Fong said:

New laptops with Quadro/Firepro GPUs are very expensive.

Still consumer GPUs like 1050/1050Ti will also work fine, just missing a few features compared to Quadro/Firepro GPUs.

What features ?

Are they very important for any further intense cad works

[genexis_x]

26 minutes ago, Balaji said:

What features ?

Are they very important for any further intense cad works

Sorry but I don't know how to explain in detail, you can read from here (one of the example): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10532978/difference-between-nvidia-quadro-and-geforce-cards

[Balaji]

On 4/8/2017 at 9:00 PM, ZM Fong said:

New laptops with Quadro/Firepro GPUs are very expensive.

Still consumer GPUs like 1050/1050Ti will also work fine, just missing a few features compared to Quadro/Firepro GPUs.

will opting for 1060than 1050ti  makes a difference if i would llike to do some intense cad works

[bimmerman]

Solidworks forces software rendering if you do not have a Quadro or Firepro with certified drivers-- this means, if you have a Geforce or Radeon card, you will not be able to use Real View (semi-realistic part material appearance), will have worse shading and lighting performance, and occasional graphical issues with solid merges and geometry approximations (especially thin wall or complex radii features). That's not to say you can't run Solidworks, but using it on gaming/consumer hardware is noticeably poorer performance than on pro-grade stuff.

 

I would buy a refurbished workstation laptop if CAD use is your priority. As an example, I bought a Dell Precision M4800 two years ago for $900 off ebay, certified refurbished with Dell's warranty-- this has an i7 4800, a 2GB Firepro card, and I upgraded its RAM and added an SSD once it arrived. This thing is a monster for both CAD, Matlab, and occasional got-nothing-better-to-do gaming. My new work laptop is a Precision 5520 (Xeon + Quadro) and it's awesome. But pricey.

 

Be realistic though with what you need from the machine. If you need to pay bills using CAD, buy appropriate workstation-grade desktop/laptop components. If you want to do CAD for fun, or have a pro-grade computer to do CAD with at the office, there's no need for a home CAD workstation.

 

If you read nothing else: Quadro/Firepro for CAD if you need to make money; this is what they are designed for. Geforce/Radeon if you don't need to make money with it, and can accept noticeably worse performance.

[TVwazhere]

58 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

If you read nothing else: Quadro/Firepro for CAD if you need to make money; this is what they are designed for. Geforce/Radeon if you don't need to make money with it, and can accept noticeably worse performance.

FirePro/Quadro cards are designed for workstations yes...

BUT

ITS MORE ABOUT THE CPU THAN GPU!!!!!!!!!!! Solidworks (and inventor for that matter) rely more on the CPU than the GPU. The GPU only matters for some rendering applications (In the case of inventor, its almost entirely CPU based and having anything more than a basic current gen GPU makes no difference)

 

YES, a 1050ti WILL WORK, and TBH you will not see much of a difference on a faster GPU. You WILL see a difference in performance with your CPU clock speed, parts of the multi threaded applications Solidworks has and the type of storage you have (an SSD will be much faster than a HDD, but its not necessary to get an nvme m.2 SSD, just a SATA3 one will do)

 

Source:

I'm a CAD tech. Also this:

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/shareyourscore.htm

You'll see a wide variation of configurations, and though some of the GTX gaming cards have slow graphic scores, there are just as many that have similar scores (3-7 seconds) as many of the Quadro cards (for example, theres two 1070's with scores of 6 seconds and 103 seconds, so i think it's about drivers) I know inventor doesnt really Give a crap what GPU you put in it, as long as its above a 1050 or equivalent

[bimmerman]

Yup. 100% agreed, a slower CPU makes much more of a difference than a certified or noncertified GPU.

 

I've been using Solidworks professionally for over 10 years and have had workstation grade GPUs for only a small subset of those years. I've noticed poor CPU performance much more often than GPU performance; so long as you have a dedicated GPU of some sort you will be OK. Using a non-certified iGPU suuuuuuuucks (hence my excitement over the new Xeons...mobile SW-certified iGPU for airplane work!).

 

Without the workstation GPU you won't get the advanced rendering features or as-accurate geometry representation, but you won't be hindered from working. A slow CPU rears its head once you have any sort of complicated geometry or multiple parts in an assembly that need rebuilding or mates resolved.

 

If you do choose to buy a workstation card, you don't need a fancy one. Low-to mid tier is beyond sufficient, unless you have a specific use case and already know you need a higher tier card.

[Balaji]

Wahh,thank you so much 

That means I need to buy i7 instead of i5 laptop fine

And what is this rendering

As long as graphic card doesn't trouble me while drawing something  I am fine,

I cannot afford workstations they are about 2k$ not at all my budget

I can buy 1050ti laptop

With some more trouble I can manage to get 1060 laptop

If 1060 laptop will help me do cad better than 1050ti at times of big complex (very rare)

I would like to go with 1060

And one more thing all 1060laptoos provide thunderbolt 3 so one fine day I can find a extrnla graphic amplifier and Huck up on quadro card

 

[Balaji]

On 2017-5-9 at 6:21 PM, Balaji said:

Wahh,thank you so much 

That means I need to buy i7 instead of i5 laptop fine

And what is this rendering

As long as graphic card doesn't trouble me while drawing something  I am fine,

I cannot afford workstations they are about 2k$ not at all my budget

I can buy 1050ti laptop

With some more trouble I can manage to get 1060 laptop

If 1060 laptop will help me do cad better than 1050ti at times of big complex (very rare)

I would like to go with 1060

And one more thing all 1060laptoos provide thunderbolt 3 so one fine day I can find a extrnla graphic amplifier and Huck up on quadro card

 

At last I am left with two laptops with 800$ 1050ti laptop and 1200$ 1060 laptop what should I prefer , is 400$ extra worth only for 1060 for better cad performance?? Reply me fast plz ,I need to decide very fast,thanks in advance

[Balaji]

On 2017-5-18 at 0:47 AM, Balaji said:

At last I am left with two laptops with 800$ 1050ti laptop and 1200$ 1060 laptop what should I prefer , is 400$ extra worth only for 1060 for better cad performance?? Reply me fast plz ,I need to decide very fast,thanks in advance

Hii,

Quadro m1200 is better or geforce 1060 for solid works ,autocad,CATIA and other cad softwares