i5-6600k to Ryzen 1800x or i7-7700k For gaming?

[listerfeend]

Ok fam, so, here's the question. I'm currently running an i5-6600k on a Gigabyte Z170-xp-sli (rev 1.0) Mobo. Now, I'm having trouble streaming to pretty much anywhere, I drop frames, my game stutters, I've gone through pretty much every settings tutorial I can find, and nothing really seems to help. SO, even without that, I'm looking into upgrading my CPU. Now, I'm not sure if I should go Ryzen 1800x, or i7-7700k, both of which would also require a MoBo upgrade, or, should I stick with the 6th gen intel and just go i7-6700k? To be honest, I'm not super impressed with my Mobo, or with Gigabyte in general, but I think the mobo will serve for now. Thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated!

[TheDutchMC04]

I think you should stick to Intel. Go with a i7-7700K

[ELSknutson]

what setting are you gaming at? and what are the specs of the rest of the system?

 

have you monitored your cpu to see if it is maxing out?  an i7 6700k is a pretty good chip and should be working fine and your motherboard is also decent

 

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, listerfeend said:

Ok fam, so, here's the question. I'm currently running an i5-6600k on a Gigabyte Z170-xp-sli (rev 1.0) Mobo. Now, I'm having trouble streaming to pretty much anywhere, I drop frames, my game stutters, I've gone through pretty much every settings tutorial I can find, and nothing really seems to help. SO, even without that, I'm looking into upgrading my CPU. Now, I'm not sure if I should go Ryzen 1800x, or i7-7700k, both of which would also require a MoBo upgrade, or, should I stick with the 6th gen intel and just go i7-6700k? To be honest, I'm not super impressed with my Mobo, or with Gigabyte in general, but I think the mobo will serve for now. Thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated!

You don't need to change mobo if you want to go with 7700k just update your BIOS and you can use 7700k without any issue whereas for 1800x you should change mobo. Is gaming your preference or streaming? If gaming then 7700k if streaming 1700 not 1800x as 1700 can OC to equal speeds of 1800x and maybe even more offering similar performance so not worth spending 200$ more.

[Ya_Mi]

Streaming so Ryzen 7 1700x would be more than enough i guess

[vorticalbox]

You should just upgrade to the i7 so them you're only having the cost of a CPU rather than CPU and motherboard.

[grimreeper132]

Just now, TobiZY said:

I think you should stick to Intel. Go with a i7-7700K

intels better due to the higher clock speeds, but if you do other things on the PC, for example you also video edit do CAD or anything else multithreaded related I would suggest the R7 1700(X or non X) and overclocking them as they will be the best performance for you doing more things

[Sokol1an]

If you want an AMD Ryzen 7, change the motherboard to a compatible one. aka AM4

[Tieox]

I'm in the same camp, considering a 7700k and a bios upgrade first, Ryzen is nice but I really don't fancy building a whole new system!

 

 

[listerfeend]

3 minutes ago, ELSknutson said:

what setting are you gaming at? and what are the specs of the rest of the system

 

I've tried all sorts of settings. At 720p 30fps 2000 bitrate, 1080p 30fps 1500 br, basically every setting I've been able to find. I have more luck with ShadowPlay than I've had with either X-split or OBS, though I've been using the free versions of those, and shadowplay is janky AF. Full-Specs are as follows

Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI (rev 1.0) MoBo
i5-6600k OC'd to I believe 4.2?
16gb Hyper X DDR4 (2400) RAM (2 x 8)
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4gb

I'm at work, so I can't really check on specific settings or anything right this instant
 

[Princess Luna]

That tiny Zotac mini... lol... I'd feel bad with such a small card in my rig

[listerfeend]

8 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

You don't need to change mobo if you want to go with 7700k just update your BIOS and you can use 7700k without any issue whereas for 1800x you should change mobo. Is gaming your preference or streaming? If gaming then 7700k if streaming 1700 not 1800x as 1700 can OC to equal speeds of 1800x and maybe even more offering similar performance so not worth spending 200$ more.

I was under the impression that Over Clocking the 7th gens required the z270 chipset. Am I mistaken, or would it work with the z170 chipset, I just wouldn't be able to do any OCing?

That option is fine right now, btw, I'm just curious.

[listerfeend]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

That tiny Zotac mini... lol... I'd feel bad with such a small card in my rig

Don't worry, 1080 is being delivered today

[listerfeend]

11 minutes ago, ELSknutson said:

what setting are you gaming at? and what are the specs of the rest of the system?

 

have you monitored your cpu to see if it is maxing out?  an i7 6700k is a pretty good chip and should be working fine and your motherboard is also decent

 

I have monitored temps, and it never seems to get about about 50c? And, for clarification, I have the i5-6600k. which I would still say is a pretty good chip. So, I'm not sure if there is more going on here, maybe my network is introducing some sheisty-ness or something?

[ELSknutson]

3 minutes ago, listerfeend said:

I've tried all sorts of settings. At 720p 30fps 2000 bitrate, 1080p 30fps 1500 br, basically every setting I've been able to find. I have more luck with ShadowPlay than I've had with either X-split or OBS, though I've been using the free versions of those, and shadowplay is janky AF. Full-Specs are as follows

Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI (rev 1.0) MoBo
i5-6600k OC'd to I believe 4.2?
16gb Hyper X DDR4 (2400) RAM (2 x 8)
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4gb

I'm at work, so I can't really check on specific settings or anything right this instant
 

I would get a better GPU before dropping money on a new processor 

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, listerfeend said:

I was under the impression that Over Clocking the 7th gens required the z270 chipset. Am I mistaken, or would it work with the z170 chipset, I just wouldn't be able to do any OCing?

That option is fine right now, btw, I'm just curious.

If you update the BIOS then you can OC any kaby lake K chip without any problem. You can find many answers in other forums too.

[ELSknutson]

Just now, ELSknutson said:

I would get a better GPU before dropping money on a new processor 

Also how is the PC under normal gaming 

[listerfeend]

Just now, ELSknutson said:

I would get a better GPU before dropping money on a new processor 

Thank you. MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8G will be on my doorstep at lunch

[listerfeend]

1 minute ago, M.A.P said:

If you update the BIOS then you can OC any kaby lake K chip without any problem. You can find many answers in other forums too.

Ok, thanks for that! I didn't really understand the what the deal with the z270 vs z170 was when it came to OCing...I know it has more support for more PCIe lanes and such, just wasn't really sure if they locked down the OCing for Kaby.

[Tieox]

I got around this problem with my R9 by using AMD Relive, for some reason ODB and a few others would result in stuttering streams especially on Doom4, yet using ReLive I've had some good results.

[listerfeend]

Just now, Kierax said:

I got around this problem with my R9 by using AMD Relive, for some reason ODB and a few others would result in stuttering streams especially on Doom4, yet using ReLive I've had some good results.

IS that AMD's version of GeForce ShadowPlay?

[Tieox]

Yes, I belive so.  

[ELSknutson]

1 minute ago, listerfeend said:

Thank you. MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8G will be on my doorstep at lunch

Well make sure all your drivers are updated and run it with the new card and see how things are from there 

[listerfeend]

2 minutes ago, ELSknutson said:

Also how is the PC under normal gaming 

PC is fine under normal Gaming. I mostly play Overwatch right now, and I run at 1080p Epic settings at 90-120 FPS. Fallout 4 is the other game on my system currently, I think that runs on High preset 1080p fairly smoothly, though it lags hard when loading new city cells.

[listerfeend]

Just now, ELSknutson said:

Well make sure all your drivers are updated and run it with the new card and see how things are from there 

Definitely will do. I'm doing a clean install of windows when I install the card. Just because I don't really have anything on their worth saving, and I want to make sure I have no bugs