144Hz worth it?

[LyricalRain018]

My budget allows for only 2 options -

1080p 60hz with a gtx 1070

1080p 144hz with an rx 480

 

Which of the above options should i consider? Or should i go with 1080p 60hz with rx 480? 1080p 144hz with gtx 1070 is not an option.

[EunSoo]

hmm. just curious, but what is your total budget for GPU and monitor. 

[Techicolors]

it depends on what games you'll be playing. if it's fast-paced competitive games with unlocked frame rate like CS:GO or overwatch, then 144hz is worth it. 

[ARikozuM]

144Hz with a 1070 would be best, but 480 gets my vote [relunctantly].

[RadiatingLight]

480 gets my vote. only if your 144Hz monitor has freesync though.

[dizmo]

I'd just save a little longer. To be perfectly honest neither one of those choices seems smart.

[The Sloth]

i love power, get a 1080p 60hz with 1070, its futureproof make sure its a IPS monitor. 

[Silentsoul]

10 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'd just save a little longer. To be perfectly honest neither one of those choices seems smart.

Would have to agree. Especially with the amd refresh very very soon. Could get slight improvements with the rx 500 series refresh.

 

144hz is only useful if you can push the frames.

 

So, depends on your games and needs.

[Energycore]

30 minutes ago, LyricalRain018 said:

My budget allows for only 2 options -

1080p 60hz with a gtx 1070

1080p 144hz with an rx 480

 

Which of the above options should i consider? Or should i go with 1080p 60hz with rx 480? 1080p 144hz with gtx 1070 is not an option.

I would go for the 144Hz and the 480. You can upgrade your GPU later but generally monitors are something you stay with for quite a while as they don't lose value like graphics cards do. As you upgrade GPUs you'll retain the ability to do 144fps on the games you want. And today, you can tweak settings to keep you at high framerates. If you grab a freesync monitor, that can help framerates below 72 (half of 144) still look really smooth. Most 144Hz Freesync monitors have adaptive refresh between 48 and 144, with some going down further to say, 30.

[Darkseth]

My personal chocie would be 144 Hz + RX 480 (of course, make the Monitor a Freesync one, you will LOVE it).

 

If you stay at 1080p @ 60 Hz, you don't need a GTX 1070. 1060 / RX 480 are enough, to have smooth 60 fps in every game. Either maxed out, or minor Graphic tweaks. Setting 3 options from ultra to High might impact the Visual quality by less than 1%. Might not even notice it. But upgrading from 60 Hz zo 144 Hz is like a new World. ^^ And you will love it.

 

 

I also agree to Energycore. You will upgrade your GPU every 2-3 years or so, but your Monitor might stay for over 5 years, maybe 8-10.

[LyricalRain018]

1 hour ago, Darkseth said:

My personal chocie would be 144 Hz + RX 480 (of course, make the Monitor a Freesync one, you will LOVE it).

 

If you stay at 1080p @ 60 Hz, you don't need a GTX 1070. 1060 / RX 480 are enough, to have smooth 60 fps in every game. Either maxed out, or minor Graphic tweaks. Setting 3 options from ultra to High might impact the Visual quality by less than 1%. Might not even notice it. But upgrading from 60 Hz zo 144 Hz is like a new World. ^^ And you will love it.

 

 

I also agree to Energycore. You will upgrade your GPU every 2-3 years or so, but your Monitor might stay for over 5 years, maybe 8-10.

Could you suggest a good 1080p 144hz freesync monitor?

[Darkseth]

Not sure how they are priced in your country, but i would check out these:

 

- Acer XF240Hbmjdpr

 

- iiyama G-Master GB2488HSU-B3 Red Eagle (Apparently only a Freesync Range up to 120.. Not sure if you can change that)

 

- ViewSonic XG2401

 

- ASUS MG248Q

[LyricalRain018]

1 hour ago, Darkseth said:

My personal chocie would be 144 Hz + RX 480 (of course, make the Monitor a Freesync one, you will LOVE it).

 

If you stay at 1080p @ 60 Hz, you don't need a GTX 1070. 1060 / RX 480 are enough, to have smooth 60 fps in every game. Either maxed out, or minor Graphic tweaks. Setting 3 options from ultra to High might impact the Visual quality by less than 1%. Might not even notice it. But upgrading from 60 Hz zo 144 Hz is like a new World. ^^ And you will love it.

 

 

I also agree to Energycore. You will upgrade your GPU every 2-3 years or so, but your Monitor might stay for over 5 years, maybe 8-10.

Is 144hz worth it if i dont play competitive games? I mostly play single player games like gta 5, witcher 3, fallout 4. And sometimes the sims and cities skylines. If it is not, i would rather get a 1080p 75hz freesync monitor with rx 480 and then get an i7 instead of an i5

[Darkseth]

For me it is. Even just in desktop mode, or when scrolling through a Webpage, you can notice 144 Hz over 60.

 

Of course, without the Game running with 143~ fps constant, you won't benefit from it well.

BUT: Higher refresh rate still gives you better input lag / response times, as the Refresh happens more often. And even if you get only 70 fps or 80, you benefit from it. Not as much, as wth 140 fps, but still more than 60 Hz.

And you might play older games where you can reach higher fps. Bioshock maybe.

Or when you upgrade your RX 480 in 2-3 years, for a much stronger GPU, which might be able to push much more fps even in latest titles.

And thanks to Freesync, which works between 48 and 144 Hz, you can find a compromise between graphic quality and fps for every game.

Bethesda games don't run well with 100+ fps for example. so higher graphics with 60-80 fps are better.

 

GTA 5 you could probably tweak the settings so much, that it doesn't look much worse, but you get 80-100 fps.

 

Well, it's difficult to make the decision for you. I can just speak for myself here. I suggest you to try 144 Hz out for yourself, and then you see if you benefit from it, or if games feel better.

[Princess Luna]

144hz is only worth it if you're a hard core esports gamer, who needs that advantage on the most fast paced moments such as cs:go aiming, if you just want to play single player games, slow paced games like strategy ones, game not an entirely priority as you'll do works on the PC too, I also advise a 1070 for "future proofness" on an IPs panel, because those are awesome in image quality.

[LyricalRain018]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

144hz is only worth it if you're a hard core esports gamer, who needs that advantage on the most fast paced moments such as cs:go aiming, if you just want to play single player games, slow paced games like strategy ones, game not an entirely priority as you'll do works on the PC too, I also advise a 1070 for "future proofness" on an IPs panel, because those are awesome in image quality.

So i should get a gtx 1070 with a 1080p 60hz monitor? I'll be getting an i5 7600k with it as i cant afford an i7. So should i get rx 480 instead and then get an i7?

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, LyricalRain018 said:

So i should get a gtx 1070 with a 1080p 60hz monitor? I'll be getting an i5 7600k with it as i cant afford an i7. So should i get rx 480 instead and then get an i7?

To begin with if you can afford an i5 7600k and plans on overclocking it, then you can afford an i7 7700 on a b250 motherboard, which will give you much superior performance and it is the best cost-gain you can have on the CPU side of things, believe me threads are the future and you'll see much more gains on the locked i7 hyper-threading than from core frequency gains from overclocking an i5.

 

You could look for an ultrawide like the 29UM68-P from LG, it is 2560x1080p75hz monitor with a beautiful IPs panel for image quality, I have two of those and I really like them, you could pair with the rx480 which wouldn't be too bad and you get freesync or try to squeeze that 1070 for best performance possible.

[LyricalRain018]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

To begin with if you can afford an i5 7600k and plans on overclocking it, then you can afford an i7 7700 on a b250 motherboard, which will give you much superior performance and it is the best cost-gain you can have on the CPU side of things, believe me threads are the future and you'll see much more gains on the locked i7 hyper-threading than from core frequency gains from overclocking an i5.

 

You could look for an ultrawide like the 29UM68-P from LG, it is 2560x1080p75hz monitor with a beautiful IPs panel for image quality, I have two of those and I really like them, you could pair with the rx480 which wouldn't be too bad and you get freesync or try to squeeze that 1070 for best performance possible.

Nah i dont like ultrawides. So to confirm- gtx 1070, 1080p 60hz monitor, i7 7700, right?

[Princess Luna]

17 minutes ago, LyricalRain018 said:

Nah i dont like ultrawides. So to confirm- gtx 1070, 1080p 60hz monitor, i7 7700, right?

yes that will be enough for the next couple of years, by the time you can upgrade the system again you'll be able to get a better 1440p monitor with capable GPU for cheaper than today as that's towards the new standards.

[Darkseth]

1 hour ago, LyricalRain018 said:

Nah i dont like ultrawides. So to confirm- gtx 1070, 1080p 60hz monitor, i7 7700, right?

Just stick to RX 480 for 1080p, 60 Hz. Why do you NEED to lose all your money?

And the Monitor can be a 72-75 Hz Freesync monitor There are a bunch of IPS / VA Monitors for 130-180 bucks, that offer freesync.

Just a Perfect combination for a RX 480, if 144 Hz is not something you want to go for.

 

There is no need to get a GTX 1070 for 150 bucks more, just for 1080p / 60 Hz

[LyricalRain018]

On 4/1/2017 at 8:23 PM, Darkseth said:

Just stick to RX 480 for 1080p, 60 Hz. Why do you NEED to lose all your money?

And the Monitor can be a 72-75 Hz Freesync monitor There are a bunch of IPS / VA Monitors for 130-180 bucks, that offer freesync.

Just a Perfect combination for a RX 480, if 144 Hz is not something you want to go for.

 

There is no need to get a GTX 1070 for 150 bucks more, just for 1080p / 60 Hz

So i should ditch the 1070 and get a 480 instead? But i would have to upgrade earlier then, right? Also, now games will be coming out that cant be run at high settings. So to me it seems that a 1070 will be more future proof. What is your opinion?

[Darkseth]

Yes, you would. BUT: You will be able to use Freesync, which makes up for it.

 

For example: I have a GTX 1060, and used a 1080p / 60 Hz Monitor.

The only way, i could get a game (let's say Witcher 3, or Rise of the Tomb Raider) smooth was to turn V_Sync on, and to lower the settings enouguh, so the GPU could always render 61 fps or more (so that i have perfectly stable 60 fps~).

As soon fps droped to 57 fps only, stuttering. Witcher 3 too. 52 fps felt not good when moving camera.

 

Now i have 1440p with G-Sync, and even 45-50 fps in Witcher 3 feels quite good and smooth.

 

Having Freesync is 1 very big Advantage here.

 

RX 480 should play every game smooth in 1080p with Freesync. No need for a GTX 1070, which performance you might not even see for the next years. because if you have a basic 60 Hz monitor, and RX 480 can get 65 fps, and GTX 1070 100 fps...

Both will cap at 60 fps with V-Sync --> same fps.

 

 

Yes, you would upgrade earlier, because 35% less performance. But you will spend 150€ less. Save those, in 2-3 years you can sell your RX 480 for 100-120€, and that gives you already 250-270€. For that money, in 3 years, you should be able to buy a GPU, that is faster than a GTX 1070. so you won't lose anything.