Should I wait for Ryzen 5?

[V!ator]

Hey there.

 

I am planning to buy a new PC around 1st April. I am MAXED OUT on my budget and my planned specs are:

Core i5 7600k

ASUS Strix Z270f Gaming

ASUS Strix 1070 Gaming

Corsair CX600m

CM Hyper T4

Corsair Spec03

Kingston KyperX Fury 16GB DDR4

 

Should I wait for Ryzen 5 to come out? If it does, can it be a viable alternative to the i5? If not, will its launch reduce the prices of Kaby Lake?

 

Thanks in Advance

[Brooksie359]

its really to hard to tell right now. if you look at the gaming performance of an overclocked r7 1700 you could probably get a good idea as to what the max performance of  the r5 series will be. that being said the r5 series could have lower performance or have the same performance. it really depends on if the game can even utilize more than the cores and threads offered by the r5 lineup. 

[dizmo]

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4 minutes ago, Xenift said:

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US pricing for someone not in the US isn't entirely helpful.

 

3 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

its really to hard to tell right now. if you look at the gaming performance of an overclocked r7 1700 you could probably get a good idea as to what the max performance of  the r5 series will be. that being said the r5 series could have lower performance or have the same performance. it really depends on if the game can even utilize more than the cores and threads offered by the r5 lineup. 

Ryzen honestly isn't that much worse than an i7 7700k.

Ryzen 5 also contains 2 4c/8t SKUs.

[Armakar]

Yes.

[Brooksie359]

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why would anyone get a k series processor with a b150 motherboard. also the 7th gen cpus aren't supported by the b150 motherboards unless they have an updated bios so i wouldn't recommend getting a 7th gen cpu with a 100 series motherboard anyways. 

[Guest Kloaked]

 

 

Check out this video. I linked the actual part that is relevant here as they turn off two cores on the 1800x to essentially (on paper) get a Ryzen 5 6-core and the gaming performance is negligible between the 8-core and 6-core difference of the same chip. Assuming the 6-core Ryzen 5 will be the same CPU essentially but with 6-cores, the 1600 will be a better buy for the money compared to an i5 and perhaps compared to an i7 for some people.

 

1 minute ago, Xenift said:

 

Did you even read the OP?

[Xenift]

3 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

why would anyone get a k series processor with a b150 motherboard. also the 7th gen cpus aren't supported by the b150 motherboards unless they have an updated bios so i wouldn't recommend getting a 7th gen cpu with a 100 series motherboard anyways. 

Oh wait i forgot it's a K processor LOL

One thing tho, K series dont come with cpu coolers.

[jappypack]

8 minutes ago, V!ator said:

Hey there.

 

I am planning to buy a new PC around 1st April. I am MAXED OUT on my budget and my planned specs are:

Core i5 7600k

ASUS Strix Z270f Gaming

ASUS Strix 1070 Gaming

Corsair CX600m

CM Hyper T4

Corsair Spec03

Kingston KyperX Fury 16GB DDR4

 

Should I wait for Ryzen 5 to come out? If it does, can it be a viable alternative to the i5? If not, will its launch reduce the prices of Kaby Lake?

 

Thanks in Advance

Sounds quite tricky, but it all depends on your uses and needs.

What do you want to use the PC for?

If you're just gaming, then Intel is the best as of now. If you're doing more than gaming; editing, streaming, tasks that use multiple threads, then Ryzen is the way to go. Ryzen is insane value for that, although if that sort of stuff is your occupation, then go for Ryzen 7. Although Ryzen 5 provides a nice balance for that sort of stuff if it's just a hobby.

Note that I said Intel is the best as of now. 

How long do you plan to use the CPU for? Ryzen 5 will last longer as it has more threads. Quad cores may be the sweet spot of gaming now, but in say 3 years time, games will start taking advantage of multiple threads. Intel are probably going to release i5's with hyperthreading and six core i7's next year, if not this year.

In my opinion, considering you'e "maxed" out on your budget, wait for Ryzen because it is going to last longer. Go for the 1600; 6 core with 12 threads, go for a B350 motherboard if you're not going to do SLI (honestly if you're gonna upgrade just buy an entirely new gpu). They support overclocking. You can start doing some light overclocking with the stock cooler as it is really good as I've heard. Spend the extra money on a better power supply, or a better case.

[Brooksie359]

4 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

 

 

Check out this video. I linked the actual part that is relevant here as they turn off two cores on the 1800x to essentially (on paper) get a Ryzen 5 6-core and the gaming performance is negligible between the 8-core and 6-core difference of the same chip. Assuming the 6-core Ryzen 5 will be the same CPU essentially but with 6-cores, the 1600 will be a better buy for the money compared to an i5 and perhaps compared to an i7 for some people.

 

Did you even read the OP?

yeah i had a feeling this would be the case because very few games use more than 8 threads anyways because the vast majority of cpus are quad cores. 

[V!ator]

32 minutes ago, jappypack said:

Sounds quite tricky, but it all depends on your uses and needs.

What do you want to use the PC for?

If you're just gaming, then Intel is the best as of now. If you're doing more than gaming; editing, streaming, tasks that use multiple threads, then Ryzen is the way to go. Ryzen is insane value for that, although if that sort of stuff is your occupation, then go for Ryzen 7. Although Ryzen 5 provides a nice balance for that sort of stuff if it's just a hobby.

Note that I said Intel is the best as of now. 

How long do you plan to use the CPU for? Ryzen 5 will last longer as it has more threads. Quad cores may be the sweet spot of gaming now, but in say 3 years time, games will start taking advantage of multiple threads. Intel are probably going to release i5's with hyperthreading and six core i7's next year, if not this year.

In my opinion, considering you'e "maxed" out on your budget, wait for Ryzen because it is going to last longer. Go for the 1600; 6 core with 12 threads, go for a B350 motherboard if you're not going to do SLI (honestly if you're gonna upgrade just buy an entirely new gpu). They support overclocking. You can start doing some light overclocking with the stock cooler as it is really good as I've heard. Spend the extra money on a better power supply, or a better case.

 

I am mainly going to be gaming on my PC. Although there will be a little video and graphic editing. I guess that i5 is the way to go.

But, will the prices of Kaby Lake drop after Ryzen 5 launch?

[jappypack]

2 minutes ago, V!ator said:

I am mainly going to be gaming on my PC. Although there will be a little video and graphic editing. I guess that i5 is the way to go.

But, will the prices of Kaby Lake drop after Ryzen 5 launch?

That 'little video and graphic editing' would go nicely with a Ryzen 5 1500X, although it is your choice. Ryzen 5 will outperform the Kaby Lake i5's in future games which utilise the multiple cores. Overclocking the i5 could be done, but at that rate you can buy a locked i7, which will last longer, but the 1500X may beat it when overclocked.

[N3v3r3nding_N3wb]

Considering that the R7 lineup is marginally better in most games than the 7600k, and that the r5 lineup should be able to do, like, 100-200 more MHz overclocks (although not guaranteed), the R5 series will probably be worth the week-and-a-half wait.

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