Ryzen 5 release date???

[Abdullahseba]

33 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

  Why do you even need thunderbolt... better to concern yourself with better hardware first.

 

see for the same price I managed to put together a much superior system, the i7, 16gb of ddr4 3000mhz for greater future upgrade path, a muuuchh superior graphics card, a much more reliable Power supply... etc etc....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£288.00 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£69.24 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£103.73 @ Eclipse Computers)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£108.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  (£241.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£66.80 @ Alza)

Total: £878.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-22 15:37 GMT+0000

 

 

 

Thanks for that, its not ITX but I certainly will consider it. Thunderbolt 3 is not essential but a feature I want badly for external pci slots.

I have modified the system more to my suiting:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£288.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£69.24 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£103.73 @ Eclipse Computers)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Turbo Video Card  (£227.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£34.74 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (£34.79 @ Aria PC)
Total: £893.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-22 16:17 GMT+0000

 

I don't want an AMD GPU cuz I'm no gamer and nvidia has better performance with professorial software such as 3DS max.

 

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, Abdullahseba said:

Thanks for that, its not ITX but I certainly will consider it. Thunderbolt 3 is not essential but a feature I want badly for external pci slots.

I have modified the system more to my suiting:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£288.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£69.24 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£103.73 @ Eclipse Computers)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Turbo Video Card  (£227.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£34.74 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (£34.79 @ Aria PC)
Total: £893.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-22 16:17 GMT+0000

 

I don't want an AMD GPU cuz I'm no gamer and nvidia has better performance with professorial software such as 3DS max.

 

Now that is a more likely system you got there, much better value for sure, if you want only workstation and not too much game orientated you could also consider buy an used GTX 980ti since it has better performance on CUDA acceleration [:

[Abdullahseba]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Now that is a more likely system you got there, much better value for sure, if you want only workstation and not too much game orientated you could also consider buy an used GTX 980ti since it has better performance on CUDA acceleration [:

Nope £100 pounds extra.

[Abdullahseba]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

Now that is a more likely system you got there, much better value for sure, if you want only workstation and not too much game orientated you could also consider buy an used GTX 980ti since it has better performance on CUDA acceleration [:

Might bite the string and go for £150 extra:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£319.50 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£101.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£103.73 @ Eclipse Computers)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Turbo Video Card  (£227.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B-E HTPC Case  (£75.00)
Power Supply: Silverstone 300W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  (£49.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Slim opitcal drive (£34.00)
Total: £1047.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-22 18:09 GMT+0000

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, Abdullahseba said:

Might bite the string and go for £150 extra:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£319.50 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£101.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£103.73 @ Eclipse Computers)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Turbo Video Card  (£227.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B-E HTPC Case  (£75.00)
Power Supply: Silverstone 300W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  (£49.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Slim opitcal drive (£34.00)
Total: £1047.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-22 18:09 GMT+0000

Now you have gotten a bit of inconsistencies on the build, for one you can not overclock in a b250 board so there really is no need to pick the unlocked 7700k as you will not feel any difference in the slightly higher clock without the OCing, also the stock cooler on the 7700 performs fine enough while being a good low profile cooler for small builds.

 

Another issue is with the power supply, three hundred watts will Not be enough to power up everything.

[Abdullahseba]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Now you have gotten a bit of inconsistencies on the build, for one you can not overclock in a b250 board so there really is no need to pick the unlocked 7700 as you will not feel any difference in the slightly higher clock without the OCing, also the stock cooler on the 7700 performs fine enough while being a good low profile cooler for small builds.

 

Another issue is with the power supply, three hundred watts will Not be enough to power up everything.

I get what your saying but I never overclock even in my current system and overclocking in a tiny case is not the best idea.

The k version is only £32 more and it will make a small difference in some workloads but, I might stick with the non k and keep the slim case.

The system will draw a max of 275W and the chances of me running the CPU and GPU at max are 0 and I think a TDP of 95W for the k version assumes you are overclocking.

The stock cooler is too noisy for my liking.

[Princess Luna]

Very well about the cooler but from the way I see it there is no way the system will even boot up being powered solely by three hundred watts, you should put the thirty-two pounds of the unlocked CPU in a better Power supply I tell you for your own good you should never play with the limits in power supplying.

[Abdullahseba]

8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Very well about the cooler but from the way I see it there is no way the system will even boot up being powered solely by three hundred watts, you should put the thirty-two pounds of the unlocked CPU in a better Power supply I tell you for your own good you should never play with the limits in power supplying.

True about the power and start-up I should have know as a electronics hobbyist.

I'll stick with the non k version

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£288.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£101.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£103.73 @ Eclipse Computers)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Turbo Video Card  (£227.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B-E HTPC Case  (£75.00)
Power Supply: Silverstone 450W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  (£63.95 @ Amazon UK)
Other: Slim opitcal drive (£34.00)
Total: £1030.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-22 18:40 GMT+0000

[Princess Luna]

There you go, that is probably the best 1000 pounds build you can make nowadays, highly recommend it [:

 

Consider marking thread solved so nobody ends up here without need [: and if you are willing to give me a thumbs up for the reputation count that would be very appreciated, anything you need in the future you can tag me in future threads I will be glad to assist you again.

[Sakkura]

3 hours ago, Abdullahseba said:

Hi

I just saw the launch of Ryzen 7 but there was no info on Ryzen 5.

I want to build a system based on the i57600K but was holding off until Ryzen comes out.

Any info on Ryzen 5? Also will the AM4 motherboards have USB 3.1 and Thunderbolt 3?

If not I will got for the i5 build.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/abdullahseba/saved/#view=DZ76hM

Thanks in advance. 

Of course they'll have USB 3.1, since USB 3.0 has already been renamed USB 3.1 Gen1. More importantly, bear in mind Intel motherboards have USB 3.1 Gen2 even though the Intel chipsets don't have it. Same with Thunderbolt 3.

 

These things are added with secondary controllers, and motherboard manufacturers can add those to AMD boards the same way they add them to Intel boards.

3 hours ago, Cyracus said:

That's intel technology dude, AMD ain't gonna have that

Yeah just like the x86-64 ISA is AMD technology, Intel certainly can't have that...

[Abdullahseba]

2 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Of course they'll have USB 3.1, since USB 3.0 has already been renamed USB 3.1 Gen1. More importantly, bear in mind Intel motherboards have USB 3.1 Gen2 even though the Intel chipsets don't have it. Same with Thunderbolt 3.

 

These things are added with secondary controllers, and motherboard manufacturers can add those to AMD boards the same way they add them to Intel boards.

Yeah just like the x86-64 ISA is AMD technology, Intel certainly can't have that...

For now I'll stick with intel and regret it when ryzen 5 comes out or not as the case maybe

[Cyracus]

48 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Yeah just like the x86-64 ISA is AMD technology, Intel certainly can't have that

Well I've looked at all the specs that can be found for AMD boards that have been released today, their's support up to usb 3.1 gen 2, even the most expensive boards don't claim to have thunderbolt capabilities. There's some possibility that Intel and AMDs cross licensing agreement would allow AMD to utilize it, or that negotiations were done when Intel partnered with AMD to bring eGFX over thunderbolt to reality. Or it could be like how Intel was able to develop x64 but they basically had to figure out how to develop it on their own, but that was apparently covered in the cross-licensing agreement. 

[TheRandomness]

-Thread moved to CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory.

[keganrahe]

The Ryzen 5 and 3 processors are coming out later this year with no release date mentioned in today's announcements.

 

" AMD is rolling out its fastest, premium Ryzen 7 chips first, including the Ryzen 7 1800X ($499), the Ryzen 7 1700X ($399) and Ryzen 7 1700 ($329). AMD’s Ryzen 5 and the Ryzen 3 will ship later this year—at the moment, AMD’s not saying exactly when. "  -  SOURCE

[zaza95]

Ryzen 5 and 3 are probably going to release in Q2 

[Neverender]

My guess is going to be sometime around early Spring. Maybe mid-April. That would be actually great timing, as I have sent for my tax refund this week. I'm planning an R5 build.

[MakeAMDGreatAgain]

7 hours ago, keganrahe said:

The Ryzen 5 and 3 processors are coming out later this year with no release date mentioned in today's announcements.

 

" AMD is rolling out its fastest, premium Ryzen 7 chips first, including the Ryzen 7 1800X ($499), the Ryzen 7 1700X ($399) and Ryzen 7 1700 ($329). AMD’s Ryzen 5 and the Ryzen 3 will ship later this year—at the moment, AMD’s not saying exactly when. "  -  SOURCE

Well, looks like that 7600k for 205$ from jet is mine. Thanks AMD.

[Brooksie359]

8 hours ago, keganrahe said:

The Ryzen 5 and 3 processors are coming out later this year with no release date mentioned in today's announcements.

 

" AMD is rolling out its fastest, premium Ryzen 7 chips first, including the Ryzen 7 1800X ($499), the Ryzen 7 1700X ($399) and Ryzen 7 1700 ($329). AMD’s Ryzen 5 and the Ryzen 3 will ship later this year—at the moment, AMD’s not saying exactly when. "  -  SOURCE

[rjfaber91]

19 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Now that is a more likely system you got there, much better value for sure, if you want only workstation and not too much game orientated you could also consider buy an used GTX 980ti since it has better performance on CUDA acceleration [:

We're going wildly offtopic here, but if you want CUDA acceleration for content creation purposes, and you're prepared to ferry your money around on the used market, get a used Quadro, ffs. You can use a GeForce card for sure, but you may find that at least half the software suites you end up using doesn't certify GeForce cards for CUDA acceleration...

[yurimodin83]

On 2/22/2017 at 9:18 AM, XenosTech said:

I really don't know why people pay for unlocked i5's when a locked i7 is better for basically the same price

because my 4 core 6600k at 4.7Ghz with only a corsair h80i is amazballz.......NOW for anyone streaming or doing ANYTHING on top of gaming certainly an i7 makes sense. My GF streams so I built her a 6700k......I had to goto a full EK 360mm water-loop kit to get the temps under control at 4.5Ghz. It ate the h80i for breakfast on temps. AND it was night and day difference with the OC.

 

all that said with games FINALLY using more threads this will probobly be my last 4 thread gaming build(I see near 90% cpu usage in some games on all cores.....witcher3 GTA etc). An i7 does age alot better but in my book just save and get the unlocked chip & mobo whichever you choose and be done with it. At least your not leaving performance on the table then.

 

Also I would point to gamersnexus and digital foundry where they show an i5 does slightly hold back the gtx1070(about 10fps IIRC) and really holds back the 1080.....they work but the minimums take a beating. I had a 1070 in mine and while it was great I could tell the i5 was hurting my min fps.......so I moved the 1070 to my GF's i7 pc and got an RX480 and Freesync monitor for my i5 which is alot more balanced. YMMV just my experience.

[XenosTech]

2 hours ago, yurimodin83 said:

because my 4 core 6600k at 4.7Ghz with only a corsair h80i is amazballz.......NOW for anyone streaming or doing ANYTHING on top of gaming certainly an i7 makes sense. My GF streams so I built her a 6700k......I had to goto a full EK 360mm water-loop kit to get the temps under control at 4.5Ghz. It ate the h80i for breakfast on temps. AND it was night and day difference with the OC.

 

all that said with games FINALLY using more threads this will probobly be my last 4 thread gaming build(I see near 90% cpu usage in some games on all cores.....witcher3 GTA etc). An i7 does age alot better but in my book just save and get the unlocked chip & mobo whichever you choose and be done with it. At least your not leaving performance on the table then.

 

Also I would point to gamersnexus and digital foundry where they show an i5 does slightly hold back the gtx1070(about 10fps IIRC) and really holds back the 1080.....they work but the minimums take a beating. I had a 1070 in mine and while it was great I could tell the i5 was hurting my min fps.......so I moved the 1070 to my GF's i7 pc and got an RX480 and Freesync monitor for my i5 which is alot more balanced. YMMV just my experience.

still wouldn't buy an unlocked i5 when it costs a s much as a lock i7