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What if I use the fans to keep the mobo cool. I really like the idea of keeping dust out.

Heat and dust usually isn't a problem. The only thing is that the armor is really just a gimmick. Why not get a cheaper black or blue mobo instead?

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Heat and dust usually isn't a problem. The only thing is that the armor is really just a gimmick. Why not get a cheaper black or blue mobo instead?

I have 6 drive lying around so I need at least 8 sata ports. I like the reliability and quality of asus boards. I want something cheaper/as cheap and with same/more features.

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I have 6 drive lying around so I need at least 8 sata ports. I like the reliability and quality of asus boards. I want something cheaper/as cheap and with same/more features.

Reliability and quality is less of an issue with the haswell atm. 

I don't think you'd get cheaper with as much or more features than the sabertooth--more for less is a bit silly in general. 

 

But what about the UD3H? http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xud3h

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The Sabertooth looks nice, but that's about it. If you want to reduce the cost and keep performance go with a slightly more pedestrian motherboard and get rid of the led fans. They are not needed for cooling. Also, the H100i is a tight fit in the R4. H80i is within a degree or two. It will mount in the 120mm rear exhaust and that fan can be moved to the front to improve intake.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler:  Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:  Asus Z87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($158.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($173.58 @ Amazon)
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($529.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case:  Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($117.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:  SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($132.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive:  Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)
Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)
Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)
Other:      ASUS D550CA-BH21 Intel Pentium 2117U(1.80GHz) 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 15.6" Notebook Windows 8 64-bit ($349.99)
Other: Canon PowerShot SX160 IS 6354B001 Black Approx. 16 MP 16X Optical Zoom 28mm Wide Angle Digital Camera HDTV Output ($149.00)
Other: BitFenix BFA-AAL-20BK6-RP Alchemy Aqua LED-Strip Blue 20cm ($22.99)
Other: StarTech Model DP2DVIMM6 6 ft. Video Converter Cable M-M ($21.99)
Other: Rosewill USB 2.0 External 74-in-1 Card Reader / Aluminum Body / Supports SDHC and SDXC / WINDOWS 7 Compatible ($14.99)
Other: Nexus 5 ($349.99)
Total: $3146.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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The Sabertooth looks nice, but that's about it. If you want to reduce the cost and keep performance go with a slightly more pedestrian motherboard and get rid of the led fans. They are not needed for cooling. Also, the H100i is a tight fit in the R4. H80i is within a degree or two. It will mount in the 120mm rear exhaust and that fan can be moved to the front to improve intake.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler:  Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard:  Asus Z87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($158.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($139.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($173.58 @ Amazon)

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($529.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case:  Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($117.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply:  SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($132.99 @ Amazon)

Optical Drive:  Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Other:      ASUS D550CA-BH21 Intel Pentium 2117U(1.80GHz) 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 15.6" Notebook Windows 8 64-bit ($349.99)

Other: Canon PowerShot SX160 IS 6354B001 Black Approx. 16 MP 16X Optical Zoom 28mm Wide Angle Digital Camera HDTV Output ($149.00)

Other: BitFenix BFA-AAL-20BK6-RP Alchemy Aqua LED-Strip Blue 20cm ($22.99)

Other: StarTech Model DP2DVIMM6 6 ft. Video Converter Cable M-M ($21.99)

Other: Rosewill USB 2.0 External 74-in-1 Card Reader / Aluminum Body / Supports SDHC and SDXC / WINDOWS 7 Compatible ($14.99)

Other: Nexus 5 ($349.99)

Total: $3146.43

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-18 03:33 EST-0500)

I like the fans for the cooling and quietness. The lights are a bonus. I want the h100i, in the testing I have seen the h80i is 10 to 15 degrees hotter.

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Reliability and quality is less of an issue with the haswell atm. 

I don't think you'd get cheaper with as much or more features than the sabertooth--more for less is a bit silly in general. 

 

But what about the UD3H? http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xud3h

UD3H won't work, my ram is 1866 the UD3H only supports 1600. Please let me know, I do like the feature set of the sabertooth, but don't want to spend quite that much money. If I can get it under $3000 total that would be great!

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UD3H won't work, my ram is 1866 the UD3H only supports 1600. Please let me know, I do like the feature set of the sabertooth, but don't want to spend quite that much money. If I can get it under $3000 total that would be great!

Why do you need to run the ram at 1866?

What features specifically?

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I like the fans for the cooling and quietness. The lights are a bonus. I want the h100i, in the testing I have seen the h80i is 10 to 15 degrees hotter.

 

The fans will actually make the case noisier because you will have to remove sound deadening panels on the case to install them. The liquid cooling is going to exhaust the cpu heat directly out of the case meaning that the case will be cooler.

 

The big thing is correct airflow. Most people think that positive pressure is a good thing in a case. The theory is that more air should be pushed in than exhausted. I'd suggest moving the rear fan to the front, getting a matching Fractal Design Silent Series R2 for the bottom intake. And go with your H100i. Just be warned that there will only be a 1mm-2mm space between the H100i and the motherboard. Leave the rear fan position empty.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler:  Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)

Motherboard:  Asus Z87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($158.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($139.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($173.58 @ Amazon)

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($529.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case:  Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($117.98 @ Newegg)

Case Fan:  Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm  Fan  ($12.28 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply:  SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($132.99 @ Amazon)

Optical Drive:  Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Monitor:  Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor  ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Other:      ASUS D550CA-BH21 Intel Pentium 2117U(1.80GHz) 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 15.6" Notebook Windows 8 64-bit ($349.99)

Other: Canon PowerShot SX160 IS 6354B001 Black Approx. 16 MP 16X Optical Zoom 28mm Wide Angle Digital Camera HDTV Output ($149.00)

Other: BitFenix BFA-AAL-20BK6-RP Alchemy Aqua LED-Strip Blue 20cm ($22.99)

Other: StarTech Model DP2DVIMM6 6 ft. Video Converter Cable M-M ($21.99)

Other: Rosewill USB 2.0 External 74-in-1 Card Reader / Aluminum Body / Supports SDHC and SDXC / WINDOWS 7 Compatible ($14.99)

Other: Nexus 5 ($349.99)

Total: $3168.71

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-18 04:11 EST-0500)

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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Why do you need to run the ram at 1866?

What features specifically?

Vegas gets around 5% better performance with 1866 ram over 1600. The cheapest 1600 ram I can find is cl9 at $135

The ram I have is 1866 cl10 at $125

Which one will be faster?

Based on what I know (10/1866)>(9/1600)

The fans will actually make the case noisier because you will have to remove sound deadening panels on the case to install them. The liquid cooling is going to exhaust the cpu heat directly out of the case meaning that the case will be cooler.

The big thing is correct airflow. Most people think that positive pressure is a good thing in a case. The theory is that more air should be pushed in than exhausted. I'd suggest moving the rear fan to the front, getting a matching Fractal Design Silent Series R2 for the bottom intake. And go with your H100i. Just be warned that there will only be a 1mm-2mm space between the H100i and the motherboard. Leave the rear fan position empty.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)

Motherboard: Asus Z87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($158.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($173.58 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($529.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.98 @ Newegg)

Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($12.28 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($132.99 @ Amazon)

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($152.00 @ Newegg)

Other: ASUS D550CA-BH21 Intel Pentium 2117U(1.80GHz) 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 15.6" Notebook Windows 8 64-bit ($349.99)

Other: Canon PowerShot SX160 IS 6354B001 Black Approx. 16 MP 16X Optical Zoom 28mm Wide Angle Digital Camera HDTV Output ($149.00)

Other: BitFenix BFA-AAL-20BK6-RP Alchemy Aqua LED-Strip Blue 20cm ($22.99)

Other: StarTech Model DP2DVIMM6 6 ft. Video Converter Cable M-M ($21.99)

Other: Rosewill USB 2.0 External 74-in-1 Card Reader / Aluminum Body / Supports SDHC and SDXC / WINDOWS 7 Compatible ($14.99)

Other: Nexus 5 ($349.99)

Total: $3168.71

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-18 04:11 EST-0500)

The noise is not an issue, with nf-f12's on the h100i and those 140's I will gat about 25-30db. My current pc has a broken gpu fan and is around 55db.

The case is 5 feet away from me. I will have good cooling, and a good looking build with those 140's. My psu will serve as an intake so I want exhaust in the top and back, and intake in the front, bottom, and psu. Does this information change your recommendation?

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The noise is not an issue, with nf-f12's on the h100i and those 140's I will gat about 25-30db. My current pc has a broken gpu fan and is around 55db.

The case is 5 feet away from me. I will have good cooling, and a good looking build with those 140's. My psu will serve as an intake so I want exhaust in the top and back, and intake in the front, bottom, and psu. Does this information change your recommendation?

 

Your psu will intake from the bottom and exhaust directly out the rear. (The other, (less desirable option), is to intake from the case and exhaust out the rear.) In either configuration psu air will never enter the case.

 

If you want 140mm led fans in the front, go ahead. You are the only one who can decide how much the aesthetics are worth.

 

The H100i fans are quite good. If you want to replace them consider the Corsair SP120 High Performance fans, benchmarks here and here suggest they will provide better cooling.

 

I have suggested leaving the rear fan position open, i.e. no fan (passive exhaust), and having the only powered exhaust be the H100i. Use three 140mm intakes, 2 front and one bottom. As mentioned, the psu should be kept separate. This scheme should provide positive pressure in the case. Adding a rear fan would likely eliminate that pressure.

 

To answer your question more directly, my recommendation is no different in the essentials - the number and location of the fans. I see no problem with using different fans, those you prefer to use. Doing so does not change the airflow scheme.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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Your psu will intake from the bottom and exhaust directly out the rear. (The other, (less desirable option), is to intake from the case and exhaust out the rear.) In either configuration psu air will never enter the case.

 

If you want 140mm led fans in the front, go ahead. You are the only one who can decide how much the aesthetics are worth.

 

The H100i fans are quite good. If you want to replace them consider the Corsair SP120 High Performance fans, benchmarks here and here suggest they will provide better cooling.

 

I have suggested leaving the rear fan position open, i.e. no fan (passive exhaust), and having the only powered exhaust be the H100i. Use three 140mm intakes, 2 front and one bottom. As mentioned, the psu should be kept separate. This scheme should provide positive pressure in the case. Adding a rear fan would likely eliminate that pressure.

 

To answer your question more directly, my recommendation is no different in the essentials - the number and location of the fans. I see no problem with using different fans, those you prefer to use. Doing so does not change the airflow scheme.

Do you have any suggestions to lower the cost without loosing much if any performance?

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Do you have any suggestions to lower the cost without loosing much if any performance?

 

What build are we talking about?

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What build are we talking about?

Mine, here is what I have now. http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Flyguygamer/saved/2PdL

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I don't know why you keep asking for suggestions. I've made a bunch of them. If you want to shave $ without affecting performance:

  • Switch to less expensive motherboard like an Asus Z87-Plus
  • Move the rear fan to the front and buy a single 140mm fan to mount in the bottom
  • Use the stock fans on the H100i
  • Go to an 80Plus Bronze psu (I don't particularly like the idea)

For about a 2.5C difference in load temps you could go with an H80i.

 

At this point you really are looking at very small possible savings. There is no magic out there that is going to bring the cost down. Well, unless you live near a Micro Center and can take advantage of their $199 i7-4770K sale.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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I don't know why you keep asking for suggestions. I've made a bunch of them. If you want to shave $ without affecting performance:

  • Switch to less expensive motherboard like an Asus Z87-Plus
  • Move the rear fan to the front and buy a single 140mm fan to mount in the bottom
  • Use the stock fans on the H100i
  • Go to an 80Plus Bronze psu (I don't particularly like the idea)

For about a 2.5C difference in load temps you could go with an H80i.

 

At this point you really are looking at very small possible savings. There is no magic out there that is going to bring the cost down. Well, unless you live near a Micro Center and can take advantage of their $199 i7-4770K sale.

Okay, thanks for your help.

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I don't know why you keep asking for suggestions. I've made a bunch of them. If you want to shave $ without affecting performance:

  • Switch to less expensive motherboard like an Asus Z87-Plus
  • Move the rear fan to the front and buy a single 140mm fan to mount in the bottom
  • Use the stock fans on the H100i
  • Go to an 80Plus Bronze psu (I don't particularly like the idea)

For about a 2.5C difference in load temps you could go with an H80i.

 

At this point you really are looking at very small possible savings. There is no magic out there that is going to bring the cost down. Well, unless you live near a Micro Center and can take advantage of their $199 i7-4770K sale.

What do you think about using a h60/h80 to cool my 780?

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What do you think about using a h60/h80 to cool my 780?

 

Not possible - at least not with a huge amount of modding.

 

The EVGA card you selected has an ACX cooler which will do a nice job of cooling the card. If you want better you'll have to move to a liquid cooling ready version of the board and either get full liquid cooling setup or go with something like the Swifttech h220 (which would require a different case) and follow their video for modding it to include a gpu.

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Not possible - at least not with a huge amount of modding.

 

The EVGA card you selected has an ACX cooler which will do a nice job of cooling the card. If you want better you'll have to move to a liquid cooling ready version of the board and either get full liquid cooling setup or go with something like the Swifttech h220 and follow their video for modding it to include a gpu.

What about a reference card?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Rj3HuG2Sg

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How are the NZXT HUE light kit?

They're good.

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I will use one, I like the Idea of changing my color scheme on the fly. With a mostly black system, pretty much any light will look good.

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