AMD Ryzen Confirmed Launch Date and Pricing, 28/2/2017!!

[TorqueS]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

That is a much better explanation . Was just a little concerned that it looked like you were saying we couldn't have the fine control if using an X, which would suck. Will be very interesting to see reviewers OC X and non-X variants, however don't the X variants have 95W TDP and non-X 65W TDP? Might actually meaning nothing but there may be something to that.

I think that the TDP is higher on the X models exactly for auto-OCing purposes.

I find TDP to be quite misleading these days. Any tweaks to frequency and voltage would mess with the TDP numbers, so I believe 65W and 95W are just an average or even a bar set for the CPUs from the factory.

[leadeater]

22 minutes ago, TorqueS said:

I think that the TDP is higher on the X models exactly for auto-OCing purposes.

I find TDP to be quite misleading these days. Any tweaks to frequency and voltage would mess with the TDP numbers, so I believe 65W and 95W are just an average or even a bar set for the CPUs from the factory.

True, TDP is actually thermal design power and is used for sizing the required cooler. It's not actually a power draw rating of the cpu, however these are not unrelated and easily confused.

[done12many2]

19 minutes ago, leadeater said:

True, TDP is actually thermal design power and is used for sizing the required cooler. It's not actually a power draw rating of the cpu, however these are not unrelated and easily confused.

 

Especially when the chip manufacturers themselves use the term incorrectly.

[AxelRantila]

I want to see independent proper benchmarks and not just hype. Hopefully we can get them sooner rather than later.

[corevo]

5 hours ago, Doobeedoo said:

It won't differ much in gaming performance really though your graphics card will matter way more.

The main game I play is Cities: Skylines, a cpu heavy game, so cpu performance is relevant to me.

[Dash Lambda]

I'm really not seeing the confirmation.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

I'm really not seeing the confirmation.

 

There isn't one. 

[Dash Lambda]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

There isn't one. 

Then the title of this thread both angers and disappoints me.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

Then the title of this thread both angers and disappoints me.

 

It's because we're allowed to make shit up and support it with unofficial sources.  Nothing new.  Welcome to the hype train.  

 

If we speculate and talk about unconfirmed stuff enough, it helps it come true.  

 

You know, like the 1080ti and everything before that.

[Doobeedoo]

25 minutes ago, corevo said:

The main game I play is Cities: Skylines, a cpu heavy game, so cpu performance is relevant to me.

Right, though still I doubt there will be much performance difference really, specially noticeable one. But we'll see soon enough how everything stacks once Zen is released.

I also play all kinds of games be it GPU or CPU intensive. I have FX8350 which is way old as far as IPC per core performance yet I can play anything, along R9 290 also.

As far as Ryzen per core performance I'd say it will be twice of the FX8350 or so, but we'll see.

[WelshDdraig]

I'm really interested in that the $259 6/12 R5 1600X. Since all prices I've seen so far are in USD, I'm assuming when converted over to GBP, there is no VAT included (For us UK people). So converted over 1:1, that makes it £207.92 (as of 15/02/2017), add the 20% VAT, that brings it to £249.50. A little bit more than a 4/4 i5 6600K on Amazon. 

 

A 6 core/12 threaded CPU at the price of an i5 - now does that mean AMD is really undercutting Intel, or does it mean the architecture is not as up to snuff as people hope and needs the extra cores as a grunt to compete with Intel's few core chips? 

(I'm not saying its like that, its just a case of devils advocate...)

On the other hand, that 1700X is also interesting. 8/16 for $389. Doing the same conversion and assumptions, that puts it undercutting the i7 7700K (when not on sale, at a full retail price of £415 on Amazon) with a price of £375 and even in spitting distance of Intel's i7 6800K. 

 

Of course, these numbers I've come up with could totally be wrong, but either way, depending on the price/performance, Ryzen is starting to look really interesting. 

[patrick3027]

When will we see new AMD chips in laptops?