For the first time ever, I feel that my 2500k is holding me back :(

[Ekst4zy]

I'm not sure why I'm making this topic. Maybe to talk about it with other old, but gold CPU owners.

 

I have my 2500k for 4 years now. I bought it used and OC it to 4.1GHz (212 EVO) paired with GTX 770. I was happy with that setup for ~3 years.

After that I got a 970 and h55 (yea I know... it was supposed to be a cooler for gpu). I was able to OC my CPU to 4.5 GHz on that cooler. Great! Again, I was very happy with my setup.

 

Well... I got a 1080 now. It's a bit of a different story. I feel that my CPU is holding my GPU back... BIG time. To the point where I don't really feel that i have a new GPU. Yes, witcher is showing ~110 fps instead of ~55, but... it's still not smooth. Overwatch... same story, I don't think I got that much more fps...

 

My fire strike score is awesome on GPU (23 300). I love it.

 

But I'm kinda sad... THE BEST CPU I ever had is finally old in my eyes.

 

Now, I'm just waiting. I want to see what will happen with Ryzen release.

If it will be a fail, I might even sell my 1080 and stick with 970 because it feels like a waste in my rig.

 

Anyone can relate? 

 

Cheers.

 

[Delicieuxz]

You could sell the 2500K, and get a 2600K for ~$160, overclock it to 4.6 Ghz, and be in i7 6700K / 7700K territory.

 

 

[Ekst4zy]

2 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

You could sell the 2500K, and get a 2600K for ~$160, overclock it to 4.6 Ghz, and be nearly in i7 6700K / 7700K territory.

 

 

I'm trying to hunt down a 3770k. I was super close to buying one for 70 USD on craigslist, but someone was faster

 

But idk... It might be better to wait and see what Ryzen will bring into the market. It can't get any worse that's for sure

[Delicieuxz]

I did the same, look for a 3770K, though ultimately decided that I didn't want to spend nearly $100 more (6 or so months ago) for it, over a 2600K.

 

$70 would be an amazing price.

[Ekst4zy]

1 minute ago, Delicieuxz said:

$70 would be an amazing price.

I know, right? I was so pissed that I was not able to get it... I also missed a 2500k for 20 USD. Not even kidding...

[Streetguru]

15 minutes ago, Ekst4zy said:

 

What's your display?

 

Just wait for Ryzen to replace it most likely

[Ekst4zy]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

What's your display?

 

Just wait for Ryzen to replace it most likely

I own a 1080p g-sync 144hz screen. 

 

And yea... I know.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Ekst4zy said:

I own a 1080p g-sync 144hz screen. 

 

And yea... I know.

Then yes your i5 will bottleneck your 144hz display, and yes a 1070 would have been enough for the display, the 1080 is more for trying to hit 1440p 144hz

but not even an i7 7700K can run some games at 144fps
 

 

[Lays]

13 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

You could sell the 2500K, and get a 2600K for ~$160, overclock it to 4.6 Ghz, and be in i7 6700K / 7700K territory.

 

 

Actually, since he has a Gtx 1080, the difference will be even bigger than in that video, so a 2600k at 4.6 won't be in 6700k/7700k territory. 

[Ekst4zy]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

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Oh well, w/e I guess. I got it for 380 USD anyways. Future proofing is not a thing in tech, but well I feel pretty safe for the next 2 years when it comes to GPU upgrades

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Ekst4zy said:

got it for 380 USD anyways

Sell it at a profit and upgrade your CPU when Ryzen drops

[Ekst4zy]

3 minutes ago, Lays said:

Actually, since he has a Gtx 1080, the difference will be even bigger than in that video, so a 2600k at 4.6 won't be in 6700k/7700k territory. 

That's a good point. I really hope that Ryzen will do well... please AMD.

 

And they have w7 support! Yupi!  

[Ekst4zy]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Sell it at a profit and upgrade your CPU when Ryzen drops

And stay on my 970? I mean sure... but then I will have to upgrade my GPU later on. 

 

Because if I would sell my 1080, then there is no point for me to upgrade. 2500k handles 970 without any problems.

[Delicieuxz]

8 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Then yes your i5 will bottleneck your 144hz display, and yes a 1070 would have been enough for the display, the 1080 is more for trying to hit 1440p 144hz

A GTX 1080 doesn't reach 144hz at 1080p, let alone 1440p. If having a high hz display monitor, I would want more than a GTX 1070, for 1080p. Otherwise, the high hz capabilities of the monitor would largely be going to waste.

 

On 12/11/2016 at 10:31 PM, Delicieuxz said:

Here's a master-list of games that a stock GTX 1070 doesn't get 60 FPS in, or doesn't get a constant 60 FPS in, at 1080p with settings maxed. So far mentioned are:

 

Witcher 3 Blood on Wine DLC

Black Desert Online

TERA

GTA IV

GTA V

Watch Dogs 2

Rise of the Tomb Raider

Crysis 3

Assassin's Creed Black Flag

Assassin's Creed Unity

Assassin's Creed Syndicate

Ark: Survival Evolved

Ashes of the Singularity

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

Mafia 3

Dishonored 2

 

[Lays]

4 minutes ago, Ekst4zy said:

That's a good point. I really hope that Ryzen will do well... please AMD.

 

And they have w7 support! Yupi!  

Skylake and Kaby have w7 support as well, all you have to do is use Asrock / ASUS tool on your windows 7 ISO.

[Ekst4zy]

2 minutes ago, Lays said:

Skylake and Kaby have w7 support as well, all you have to do is use Asrock / ASUS tool on your windows 7 ISO.

I did not know that... Thank you.

 

Is delidding of my 2500k worth the hassle?

 

 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

A GTX 1080 doesn't reach 144hz at 1080p, let alone 1440p. If having a high hz frequency display monitor, I would want more than a GTX 1070, for 1080p. Otherwise, the high hz capabilities of the monitor would largely be going to waste.

 

 

Maybe just drop down to high settings and you'll be fine, in that video the 1080 is hitting 120fps in GTAV
 

 

4 minutes ago, Ekst4zy said:

And stay on my 970? I mean sure... but then I will have to upgrade my GPU later on. 

 

Because if I would sell my 1080, then there is no point for me to upgrade. 2500k handles 970 without any problems.

And by that time refresh GPUs might be announced, or if nothing else they'll be cheaper all around
 

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Ekst4zy said:

I did not know that... Thank you.

 

 

Dunno about 7 but Jay was having some issues in windows 8.1
 

 

[Ekst4zy]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

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You might be right, but I think that nothing will change on GPU market in one month from now and a lot can change in CPU market. Idk, I feel that it's a smart move to wait... 

 

I created this topic because I was sad with my discovery. 2500k was truly the best CPU I had and I kinda sad that it's hitting it's limits.

 

Even if I will get a Ryzen or w/e. 2500k will go into my GF build. I'm not selling it!  

[Delicieuxz]

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Maybe just drop down to high settings and you'll be fine, in that video the 1080 is hitting 120fps in GTAV

A lot of GTA V benchmarks exclude all the options in the Advanced settings tab. I think it's the same for those GN scores. It's always an option, though I personally prefer to max as much as possible, while still getting great FPS.

 

7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Dunno about 7 but Jay was having some issues in windows 8.1
 

 

 

I don't think that was due to the Kaby CPU:

11 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

The BSOD Jayz got there has happened to lots of people who aren't running Kaby CPUs, and the cause of it doesn't appear to be CPU-related. It's too bad that Jayz didn't look up the BSOD, find out what it's associated with, and talk about it in his video. Instead, he, unintentionally, is giving a false impression that that instability is related to running a Kaby CPU with an older Windows version, when, in all likeliness, it had nothing to do with the CPU being Kaby Lake.

 

DPC_Watchdog_Violation has occurred on Windows 7, 8, and 10, with all types of CPUs:

 

Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION BSOD, Promises Fix

 

 

There are also other causes and solutions to the DPC_Watchdog_Violation BSOD.

[scottyseng]

47 minutes ago, Ekst4zy said:

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2500K is soldered. Do not attempt to delid.

 

I kind of felt the same about my 2500K, but at 4.6Ghz. I ended up going the cheap route and getting a used 2700K off of ebay, and will hold off until Crystal Well before I cough up money for new mobo / RAM again.

 

I don't have a 1080, but I have a 1070 and a 980 Ti, both match well for me. I'm having more issues when I have more than one program open at a time...2500K is starting to choke (I tend to change between tasks a lot and have a lot of things open).