WHY DOES AMD DO THIS?!?!?!

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

For about A YEAR, I've thought that my Graphics Card wasn't working, and that It was defect.

I've baked it over and over, trying to get it to work again... (Latest 16.2.1 Crimson Legacy Drivers)

I installed Batman Arkham Knight, which ran REALLY bad. (10fps).

 

Searching for the net for clues, I found out, that installing 14.12 OMEGA drivers make it run just fine.

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-14-12-whql-omega-download.html

 

TRUE STORY, I installed 14.12, and ran the game 30-60 FPS on low, 1080p. Aww yeah Batman still looks awesome!

I noticed something weird. (Crossfire was working again O.o) Wuuut?

 

I finished Batman, and thought I'd get back to Fallout 4. Latest version of Fallout 4 only works on latest Crimson Drivers.

With Crossfire working, it should run BUTTERSMOOTH!!

 

I installed Latest 16.2.1 Crimson Legacy Drivers again, and saw that Crossfire isn't working... Again.

Here I thought, well maybe the card somehow broke again. Tried to reinstall 14.12 again to confirm (used DDU), wow. Crossfire works JUST fine again.

ONE more time, going back to Latest 16.2.1 Crimson Legacy Drivers, crossfire is dead. Again...

 

Here are screenshots of GPU-Z:

14.12 OMEGA Drivers

 

 

16.2.1 Crimson drivers

 

 

Key difference: Both Crossfire and OpenCL is gone on the newer Crimson driver.

 

What the actual #¤!$ is AMD doing???? I'm actually frustrated right now.

 

Can someone give any tips/tricks or closure on this?

 

[Space Reptile]

16.12 is not for 6XXX series cards , its 7X and up ,

your card is not receiving active updates anymore as its very old ,

just run the older driver or get a newer card 

[VirusStorm]

1. Because it's AMD

2. Because it's arkham knight 

3. Because it's crossfire 

[tp95112]

Well the card(2010-2011) is old has balls is what im assuming

[stealth80]

2 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

1. Because it's AMD

2. Because it's arkham knight 

3. Because it's crossfire 

helpful

 

As already said, don't use the latest drivers if your card isn't supported. Also, I don't remember Fallout having multi-GPU support, I had next to no performance increase using 2x 970's although that's around 4 months or so ago now so maybe wrong

[Techno_Reverend]

6900 series.. wonders why.. this that the other.

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

19 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

16.12 is not for 6XXX series cards , its 7X and up ,

your card is not receiving active updates anymore as its very old ,

just run the older driver or get a newer card 

Yes it is. It's the lastest driver for Legacy Card, 6xxx and down.

 

7xxx and up all have a lot higher versions, my girlfriends 7770 is currently on 16.12.1 (newest crimson relive)

[Techno_Reverend]

Grab an RX 470 i will put all my money where my mouth is on you have a much better time.

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

22 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

16.12 is not for 6XXX series cards , its 7X and up ,

your card is not receiving active updates anymore as its very old ,

just run the older driver or get a newer card 

This driver IS the latest driver for my card. I am fully aware that no future updates will come, as they stated THIS was the latest.

I've also tried 15.11.1 (Pre Crimson drivers), crossfire is also disabled.

 

Latest drivers on their website for Legacy Cards (6xxx and down)

 

Latest Stable: 15.7.1 (No Crossfire)

Latest Beta 16.2.1 (No Crossfire)

 

Old OMEGA 14.12 driver (Crossfire perfectly working)

 

 

22 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

1. Because it's AMD

2. Because it's arkham knight 

3. Because it's crossfire 

Lol

19 minutes ago, tp95112 said:

Well the card(2010-2011) is old has balls is what im assuming

Very unhelpful comment, considering that I'm showing you that everything has worked in previous drivers, and suddenly being disabled in future drivers.

Please see above answer.

A card being old doesn't mean you have to disable functions that previously worked???

18 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

helpful

 

As already said, don't use the latest drivers if your card isn't supported. Also, I don't remember Fallout having multi-GPU support, I had next to no performance increase using 2x 970's although that's around 4 months or so ago now so maybe wrong

Please see above replies.

My card is fully supported, and the drivers I use are the latest supported for my Card.

Regarding Fallout, you are right, that some cases it does not help.
However in my case (when crossfire actually worked) I did get a 10-20 fps boost. (Using Crysis 3 Profile I think, had to google to find a working profile, as Fallout 4 profile wasn't yet released at that time).

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

7 minutes ago, Techno_Reverend said:

Grab an RX 470 i will put all my money where my mouth is on you have a much better time.

I trust you :-), and I believe you.
I could also just buy a GTX 1070. (have the money).

Just really wondering why crossfire works perfectly on older drivers, and why the newest ones seem to be purposely disabling it, along with OpenCL Support.

[Godlygamer23]

Baking should be the last thing you do. It's really an ineffective, and if it works, extremely temporary solution that may not last very long. 

[LeStringMan]

This is actually a known issue with 15.7.1 and 16.2.1, there a quite a few post on AMD's forums about this exact topic.

[Biggerboot]

As long as your older drivers work and play all of your games just stick with those until you upgrade.  Can't say for sure if AMD purposely disabled crossfire on older cards - I don't think this is the case.  It may just not be as compatible with the newer API, and companies will just cut off ties with older hardware at some point to have something that works better with newer cards.  The 6990 is especially an oddball in the AMD line up so it's not too surprising, and it could've easily have gone untested in their newer updates.  

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

2 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Baking should be the last thing you do. It's really an ineffective, and if it works, extremely temporary solution that may not last very long. 

Agreed. But it's like a last resort for me. I only do it if it doesn't work properly. If it dies, then so be it

2 hours ago, LeStringMan said:

This is actually a known issue with 15.7.1 and 16.2.1, there a quite a few post on AMD's forums about this exact topic.

Do you happen to know what the actual #¤$! AMD is doing?

Both officially and unofficially.

Is it just like, we're screwing the older cards, so you HAVE to buy new?

1 hour ago, Biggerboot said:

As long as your older drivers work and play all of your games just stick with those until you upgrade.  Can't say for sure if AMD purposely disabled crossfire on older cards - I don't think this is the case.  It may just not be as compatible with the newer API, and companies will just cut off ties with older hardware at some point to have something that works better with newer cards.  The 6990 is especially an oddball in the AMD line up so it's not too surprising, and it could've easily have gone untested in their newer updates.  

Problem is, some games (noticed Fallout 4), doesn't work properly without the latest Crimson Drivers. you fly through walls and a lot of houses disappear etc.
It's really weird. They're not invisible, you can literally walk through where they used to be. Weird issues.

 

So it's kind of a situation, where you gotta install drivers depending on which games you want to play, which kind of sucks

 

Why is the 6990 an oddball?

 

I understand cutting ties, if let's say the card just stopped working on some/all newer titles, but it works just fine! They just disabled crossfire and OpenCL support for some odd reason.

 

 

[Biggerboot]

13 minutes ago, Edgar R. Zakarian said:

Why is the 6990 an oddball?

Dual GPU cards are basically a thing of the past, arguably obsolete at the launch of the R6000 series.  The 6990 and GTX 690 were the last of their kind (I think).

[Edgar R. Zakarian]

11 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

Dual GPU cards are basically a thing of the past, arguably obsolete at the launch of the R6000 series.  The 6990 and GTX 690 were the last of their kind (I think).

oh.
We still DO have Radeon Pro Duo and Titan Z though

[Biggerboot]

28 minutes ago, Edgar R. Zakarian said:

oh.
We still DO have Radeon Pro Duo and Titan Z though

I'll retract that statement.  They were the last gaming grade dual cards.  Those are meant for workstations.  Two gpus on one card make more sense in rendering.  Their usability doesn't rely on SLI/CF.

[ivan134]

43 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

I'll retract that statement.  They were the last gaming grade dual cards.  Those are meant for workstations.  Two gpus on one card make more sense in rendering.  Their usability doesn't rely on SLI/CF.

Don't forget 295x2.

[Biggerboot]

4 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Don't forget 295x2.

Right.  I totally forgot about the dual R9.  :B

[Mr.Meerkat]

14 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Baking should be the last thing you do. It's really an ineffective, and if it works, extremely temporary solution that may not last very long. 

How does baking a GPU relate to this thread about GPU drivers at all? 

Wrong thread maybe?  

 

edit: Rip reading skills...somehow missed that part when it was literally the second thing he mentioned...

[2FA]

7 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

Right.  I totally forgot about the dual R9.  :B

MARS 760x2

HD 7990

Powercolor 390x2

[Biggerboot]

6 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

MARS 760x2

Powercolor 390x2

Yo I'm not counting aftermarket exclusives.

 

I'll admit though I've not heard of the 7990.  I guess AMD was making dual cards for a while.  I wonder how that would handle now.

[ivan134]

10 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

How does baking a GPU relate to this thread about GPU drivers at all? 

Wrong thread maybe?  

Read the OP scrub

[Godlygamer23]

24 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

How does baking a GPU relate to this thread about GPU drivers at all? 

Wrong thread maybe?  

The OP mentioned that he baked it numerous times. 

[Mr.Meerkat]

@Godlygamer23, @ivan134, he mentioned it in the second line, totally didn't miss it...whoops