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Hello guys, recently i built this, but the mobo stuck to my head.. should i trade this to friend and get a "Asus STRIX Z270E" or something else..(i need ac wifi).. and what do you think about my system..

 

CPU:  I7 7700K

CPU COOLER: Cmaster 212x (Its on the way.. 1-2 days until arrives)

MOBO: MSI B250I

SSD:    Samsung 500GB 960 EVO PCIe M.2 SSD (Read 3200MB / Write 1800MB)

CASE:  Carbide Series® 100R Mid-Tower Case

RAM:    Corsair Value 8GB.. 2133 MHZ..

PSU:    500 Watt 

NO GPU ( Cant start gaming for 3-4 months because of reasonz)

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uh wut? "but the mobo stuck to my head"

 

 

And why use an ITX board in an ATX case?

n0ah1897, on 05 Mar 2014 - 2:08 PM, said:  "Computers are like girls. It's whats in the inside that matters.  I don't know about you, but I like my girls like I like my cases. Just as beautiful on the inside as the outside."

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Maybe he means that the motherboard is stuck to the "head" of a too bigger case, so he wants a bigger MB?

Weird interpretation but that the best I've got. 

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5 minutes ago, jldjul said:

Maybe he means that the motherboard is stuck to the "head" of a too bigger case, so he wants a bigger MB?

Weird interpretation but that the best I've got. 

yes sorry, i was saying "did i do right by chosing this.. but this is mini itx board and im using a big case.."

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Well if you ever plan on overclocking I'd definitely get a Z270 board, if you're going to buy a i7-7700k you should eventually at least try an overclock. Also ITX boards are great, but then I would go for a smaller case. But smaller boards mean not as much expandability, for first builds I don't recommend small boards. With my first build I was always changing my mind about certain things and ATX was a better choice at the time. But now that I know a whole lot more and know exactly what I want and need out of a build, I have built myself another system that is ITX form factor and I love it.

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2 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Well if you ever plan on overclocking I'd definitely get a Z270 board, if you're going to buy a i7-7700k you should eventually at least try an overclock. Also ITX boards are great, but then I would go for a smaller case. But smaller boards mean not as much expandability, for first builds I don't recommend small boards. With my first build I was always changing my mind about certain things and ATX was a better choice at the time. But now that I know a whole lot more and know exactly what I want and need out of a build, I have built myself another system that is ITX form factor and I love it.

I Already bought this system.. its absolutely perfect for me.. i want to overclock the cpu.. and i will when 212x cooler arrives. Here is my questions:

 

Is this mobo good enought

Should i overclock cpu and ram?

Should i get a smaller case? (is it better for cooling etc?)

i will get a 1070 in 4-5 months or a newer gpu..

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41 minutes ago, Semars said:

I Already bought this system.. its absolutely perfect for me.. i want to overclock the cpu.. and i will when 212x cooler arrives. Here is my questions:

 

Is this mobo good enought

Should i overclock cpu and ram?

Should i get a smaller case? (is it better for cooling etc?)

i will get a 1070 in 4-5 months or a newer gpu..

 
 

Yeah just make sure that motherboard supports overclocking then, It should. But be aware when overclocking you may hit some high thermals if you push it just using a hyper 212. 

This is from my i7-6700k review, and the i7-7700k would perform similarly:

“I've water-cooled this processor (i7-6700k) with the Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 240 and am overclocked at 4.7GHz at 1.360V. I never have any thermal throttling or system stability issues. After 4 hours of stress testing on Aida64 I had an average CPU temperature of 69 degrees C. So for those looking to overclock this CPU I definitely would recommend a 240mm AIO CPU cooler. Or at least a big air cooled heat sink. When I first built this system I was using the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, (which is an amazing cooler) but without any overclocking I was hitting even higher temps in day-to-day use than I'm hitting now; even with the 4.7GHz overclock.“

As far as overclocking ram don't bother, it's hard and makes pretty much zero difference. But once you upgrade your graphics card I would overclock it.

 

When it comes to the case I say it’s up to you. If you want a cleaner looking build that is a lot more portable then yeah get a Mini-ITX case. I very recently built myself this system in the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mini ITX case and I love it. The case won't make a difference on airflow so much. It all depends on your fan setup. This Phanteks case has lots of room for fans, and even a big radiator up top. So if you decide to liquid cool your CPU, which I would if you want to hit a 5.0GHz overclock on your i7. Then you have the room for it, even in such a small case.

 

This build has an i5-6600k:

 

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3 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Yeah just make sure that motherboard supports overclocking then, It should. But be aware when overclocking you may hit some high thermals if you push it just using a hyper 212. 

This is from my i7-6700k review, and the i7-7700k would perform similarly:

“I've water-cooled this processor (i7-6700k) with the Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 240 and am overclocked at 4.7GHz at 1.360V. I never have any thermal throttling or system stability issues. After 4 hours of stress testing on Aida64 I had an average CPU temperature of 69 degrees C. So for those looking to overclock this CPU I definitely would recommend a 240mm AIO CPU cooler. Or at least a big air cooled heat sink. When I first built this system I was using the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, (which is an amazing cooler) but without any overclocking I was hitting even higher temps in day-to-day use than I'm hitting now; even with the 4.7GHz overclock.“

As far as overclocking ram don't bother, it's hard and makes pretty much zero difference. But once you upgrade your graphics card I would overclock it.

 

When it comes to the case I say it’s up to you. If you want a cleaner looking build that is a lot more portable then yeah get a Mini-ITX case. I very recently built myself this system in the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mini ITX case and I love it. The case won't make a difference on airflow so much. It all depends on your fan setup. This Phanteks case has lots of room for fans, and even a big radiator up top. So if you decide to liquid cool your CPU, which I would if you want to hit a 5.0GHz overclock on your i7. Then you have the room for it, even in such a small case.

 

 

This build has an i5-6600k:

 

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Thank you, your comment was very helpfull....

 

So the cooling system you have in this case is looking very great.. atm i have my 2 fans in front and none in top section.. like this:

 

should i move them both to up section?

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Semars said:

Thank you, your comment was very helpfull....

 

So the cooling system you have in this case is looking very great.. atm i have my 2 fans in front and none in top section.. like this:

 

should i move them both to up section?

 

 

 

 

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Do you have any exhaust fans at all? If not, and all you have are those two intake fans, I would put one of them as a rear exhaust. Or even better if you can buy one cheap 120mm fan and put it as exhaust. That way you have lots of cool air coming in with two intake fans. Keeping all your hardware cool. That red ITX build actually has one big 200m fan upfront for intake, it's just not super visible, but I'm going to replace it with two Corsair red LED SP140 fans, for even better airflow. I'm anal about thermals so I'm all about good airflow and keeping my rigs cool. Remember more air passing through = better thermals, which means better performance. But you don't want more exhaust fans than intake fans, a good balance is best. Or at least more intake fans.

 

Here is my other main system, this has two 140mm front intake fans, one 120mm bottom intake fan, two 120mm radiator exhaust fans, and one rear 120mm exhaust fan:DSC00434.JPG

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2 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Do you have any exhaust fans at all? If not, and all you have are those two intake fans, I would put one of them as a rear exhaust. Or even better if you can buy one cheap 120mm fan and put it as exhaust. That way you have lots of cool air coming in with two intake fans. Keeping all your hardware cool. That red ITX build actually has one big 200m fan upfront for intake, it's just not super visible, but I'm going to replace it with two Corsair red LED SP140 fans, for even better airflow. I'm anal about thermals so I'm all about good airflow and keeping my rigs cool. Remember more air passing through = better thermals, which means better performance. But you don't want more exhaust fans than intake fans, a good balance is best. Or at least more intake fans.

 

Here is my other main system, this has two 140mm front intake fans, one 120mm bottom intake fan, two 120mm radiator exhaust fans, and one rear 120mm exhaust fan:DSC00434.JPG

 

I have stock corsair case fan in the back of the case.. its what you are talking about?

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3 minutes ago, Semars said:

 

I have stock corsair case fan in the back of the case.. its what you are talking about?

 
 

So how many fans do you have as exhaust and how many do you have as intake?

 

Here this LTT vid may help you.

 

But being a ITX  mobo you probably only have 3 fan headers (mine only has 3) so you may need some fan splitters down the road. In my red ITX build I already have a splitter for those two exhaust fans, and I will need another splitter once I put two SP140 fans up front.

 

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Blueberry Pi  R9 3950X  Asus X470 ROG Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi ATX  Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3200MHz CL16  EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC Black Edition 11GB  EVGA P2 850W w/ Blue Sleeved Cables  Cryorig R1 Universal (Blue)  2x Corsair Force MP510 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2  Corsair ML Pro Blue LED Fans  Fractal Design Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower  

Asus ROG SWIFT PG348Q 100Hz IPS G-Sync UW  Dell UltraSharp U3419W 60Hz IPS UW  Custom TOFU96  Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB 

 

Work Rig  ThreadRipper 3970X  Asus Prime TRX40 Pro ATX  G.Skill RipjawsV 8x32GB 3200Mhz CL16  Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 24GB  Corsair HXi 1000W  EVGA CLC 360 AIO  8x Sabrent Rocket 2TB w/ 2x Asus Hyper m.2 V2   Arctic P12 Fans  Phanteks P400A ATX Mid Tower 

 

Plotting Machine 1  ThreadRipper 2990WX  AsRock X399 Taichi ATX  Kingston HyperX Fury 8x16GB 2666Mhz CL18   Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB  Corsair RMx 850W  EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 2x Sabrent Rocket 2TB & 2x Sabrent Rocket 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2  Arctic P12 Fans  Rosewill RSV-L4500 4U  5x Dell DS60 60-bay JBOD w/ 1.2PB of HDD Storage  HP 22U Half Rack

 

Plotting Machine 2  R9 3950X  Asus TUF X570-Plus Wi-Fi ATX  G.Skill RipjawsV 4x16GB 3200Mhz CL16   Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB  Corsair RM 650W  Noctua NH-D15s Chormax ‖ 4x Corsair MP600 Force 1TB W/ Asus Hyper m.2 Gen4  Arctic P14 & P12 Fans  Silverstone FARA R1 ATX Mid Tower

 

J.A.R.V.I.S.  R9 3900XT  Asus B550-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX  G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16  EVGA GTX 1080 SC2 iCX 8GB  Corsair SF 750W Platinum  Corsair H100i Pro AIO  Noctua NF-A12x15 Chromax Fans  FormD T1 SFF ITX Case  

LG 75UM8070PUA 4K UHD 120Hz IPS HDR TV  Corsair K63 Cherry MX Red Special Edition Wireless  Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless

 

Archive Server  R3 2200G  Asus B450-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX  Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 White  Vega Integrated Graphics  EVGA P2 750W  Prism Wraith Cooler  ITX Open Bench  2x HP SAS Expander  LSI-SAS9211  220TB of HDD Storage

 

SFF ITX Home PC  i5-7500  MSI B250I Gaming Pro Wi-Fi AC ITX  G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB 2800MHz  Intel Integrated Graphics  Seasonic SSP Flex ATX 300W PSU  Cryorig C7  Velka 3 rev 1.2 SFF ITX Case (Grey)  

 

Laptop  Dell XPS13 2-in-1 7390 (2020)  i7-1065G7  32GB 3733MHz LPDDR4x  Intel Integrated Graphics  1TB NVME M.2  UHD+ (3840 x 2400) InfinityEdge Touch Display 

 

Keyboard Collection  GMMK Full Size  TOFU96 90%  ‖ KBD8x MKII TKL ‖ Drop CTRL High Profile TKL ‖ KBD Bella 75% ‖ GMMK Pro 75% ‖ XD84 Pro 75%  KBD67 V2 MKII 65%  KBD67Lite 65%  TOFU65 65%  KBD Blade 60%  Drop Carina 60%  Southpaw75 60% w/ Left Numpad  OLKB Preonic V3 Ortholinear ‖ CosPad XD24  ‖ KBDPad MKII

 

Key Cap Collection  GMK Boba Fett  GMK Red Samurai  GMK Laser CyberDeck +Novalties  GMK Arch  MaxKey B&W  Drop MT3 Camillo ‖ Matt3o MT3 /dev/tty  KBDfans Biip Torii Ext-2048  ePBT Less But Better +Novalties  EnjoyPBT Dolch  WinMix Mustard  Drop Skylight Horizon & Slate ‖ Glorious Black Aura   

 

Mechanical Key Switch Collection  Zealios V2 65g  Zealios V2 78g ‖ Zilents V2 67g  Tealios V2 67g  C³ Kiwi ‖ C³ Tangerine  Invyr Holy Panda  Durock T1 67g  Kailh Box Thick Jades ‖ Kailh Box Royal ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Dark Yellow ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Burnt Orange  Kailh Box White  Kailh Box Red  Kailh Pro Purple  Kailh Pro Burgandy  Gateron Ink Black V2  Gateron Black  Gateron Yellow  Gateron Brown  Gateron Green  Gateron Blue ‖ Cherry MX Black ‖ Cherry MX Brown ‖ Cherry MX Red

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This will help explain air flow types too: 

 

AMD Motherboard Tier List  GPU Cooling Tier List  PSU Tier List  A Dive Into Custom Keyboards & Mechanical Switches

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My Builds:

MEGA Desk Build

 

Blueberry Pi  R9 3950X  Asus X470 ROG Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi ATX  Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3200MHz CL16  EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC Black Edition 11GB  EVGA P2 850W w/ Blue Sleeved Cables  Cryorig R1 Universal (Blue)  2x Corsair Force MP510 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2  Corsair ML Pro Blue LED Fans  Fractal Design Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower  

Asus ROG SWIFT PG348Q 100Hz IPS G-Sync UW  Dell UltraSharp U3419W 60Hz IPS UW  Custom TOFU96  Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB 

 

Work Rig  ThreadRipper 3970X  Asus Prime TRX40 Pro ATX  G.Skill RipjawsV 8x32GB 3200Mhz CL16  Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 24GB  Corsair HXi 1000W  EVGA CLC 360 AIO  8x Sabrent Rocket 2TB w/ 2x Asus Hyper m.2 V2   Arctic P12 Fans  Phanteks P400A ATX Mid Tower 

 

Plotting Machine 1  ThreadRipper 2990WX  AsRock X399 Taichi ATX  Kingston HyperX Fury 8x16GB 2666Mhz CL18   Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB  Corsair RMx 850W  EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 2x Sabrent Rocket 2TB & 2x Sabrent Rocket 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2  Arctic P12 Fans  Rosewill RSV-L4500 4U  5x Dell DS60 60-bay JBOD w/ 1.2PB of HDD Storage  HP 22U Half Rack

 

Plotting Machine 2  R9 3950X  Asus TUF X570-Plus Wi-Fi ATX  G.Skill RipjawsV 4x16GB 3200Mhz CL16   Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB  Corsair RM 650W  Noctua NH-D15s Chormax ‖ 4x Corsair MP600 Force 1TB W/ Asus Hyper m.2 Gen4  Arctic P14 & P12 Fans  Silverstone FARA R1 ATX Mid Tower

 

J.A.R.V.I.S.  R9 3900XT  Asus B550-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX  G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16  EVGA GTX 1080 SC2 iCX 8GB  Corsair SF 750W Platinum  Corsair H100i Pro AIO  Noctua NF-A12x15 Chromax Fans  FormD T1 SFF ITX Case  

LG 75UM8070PUA 4K UHD 120Hz IPS HDR TV  Corsair K63 Cherry MX Red Special Edition Wireless  Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless

 

Archive Server  R3 2200G  Asus B450-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX  Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 White  Vega Integrated Graphics  EVGA P2 750W  Prism Wraith Cooler  ITX Open Bench  2x HP SAS Expander  LSI-SAS9211  220TB of HDD Storage

 

SFF ITX Home PC  i5-7500  MSI B250I Gaming Pro Wi-Fi AC ITX  G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB 2800MHz  Intel Integrated Graphics  Seasonic SSP Flex ATX 300W PSU  Cryorig C7  Velka 3 rev 1.2 SFF ITX Case (Grey)  

 

Laptop  Dell XPS13 2-in-1 7390 (2020)  i7-1065G7  32GB 3733MHz LPDDR4x  Intel Integrated Graphics  1TB NVME M.2  UHD+ (3840 x 2400) InfinityEdge Touch Display 

 

Keyboard Collection  GMMK Full Size  TOFU96 90%  ‖ KBD8x MKII TKL ‖ Drop CTRL High Profile TKL ‖ KBD Bella 75% ‖ GMMK Pro 75% ‖ XD84 Pro 75%  KBD67 V2 MKII 65%  KBD67Lite 65%  TOFU65 65%  KBD Blade 60%  Drop Carina 60%  Southpaw75 60% w/ Left Numpad  OLKB Preonic V3 Ortholinear ‖ CosPad XD24  ‖ KBDPad MKII

 

Key Cap Collection  GMK Boba Fett  GMK Red Samurai  GMK Laser CyberDeck +Novalties  GMK Arch  MaxKey B&W  Drop MT3 Camillo ‖ Matt3o MT3 /dev/tty  KBDfans Biip Torii Ext-2048  ePBT Less But Better +Novalties  EnjoyPBT Dolch  WinMix Mustard  Drop Skylight Horizon & Slate ‖ Glorious Black Aura   

 

Mechanical Key Switch Collection  Zealios V2 65g  Zealios V2 78g ‖ Zilents V2 67g  Tealios V2 67g  C³ Kiwi ‖ C³ Tangerine  Invyr Holy Panda  Durock T1 67g  Kailh Box Thick Jades ‖ Kailh Box Royal ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Dark Yellow ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Burnt Orange  Kailh Box White  Kailh Box Red  Kailh Pro Purple  Kailh Pro Burgandy  Gateron Ink Black V2  Gateron Black  Gateron Yellow  Gateron Brown  Gateron Green  Gateron Blue ‖ Cherry MX Black ‖ Cherry MX Brown ‖ Cherry MX Red

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Alright thank you guys very much, i have 2 in front 1 in back.. up side is empty and this looks good atm after i watched video so im gonna keep it like this.. very helpfull community thank you guys.

 

One more question: 212x or budget cpu liquid cooler? is there much diffrence?

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