New "homeless" budget PC build, need help!

[Just Your Average Builder]

I'm working on a "homeless" budget PC (It's just a name) build and need help. The budget is between 300-350, and should be able to run games like Overwatch/League of Legends at a steady 60 FPS (Currently using a $300 budget PC running League at 120, which is nice) - The problem is that I'm having trouble finding any cheap parts at all, at least any that'll be of any use:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZYsVLD

^ Current build -

Case: https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Micro-ATX-Computer-12-5-Inch-LINE-M/dp/B00AAJ0ZGK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1484100795&sr=8-2&keywords=Rosewill+Micro+ATX+Mini+Tower

Graphics: https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Radeon-Windforce-Graphics-GV-RX460WF2OC-4GD/dp/B01K1JVCRE

Memory:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8E92X0/?tag=pcpapi-20 -
_{^ ^ (I already have 4 sticks of these so I'm not factoring them into the final price, and yes the motherboard can only take 2 - I know) ^ ^}

Hard Drive: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/?tag=pcpapi-20

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H33SFJU/?tag=pcpapi-20

CPU: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KPRWAZQ/?tag=pcpapi-20

 

Is there anything I can improve? Anything cheaper? Etc - Help is greatly appreciated

 

[Megah3rtz]

you can keep the graphics card and that will help the price alot. The CPU needs to be improved, see if you can find a used haswell i5. 

 

^ that was in response to "current build" which is what I thought you already bought. 

[Energycore]

Given your current build, get these

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($173.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Jet)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.89 @ B&H)
Total: $293.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 21:25 EST-0500

 

(update your mobo BIOS so it works with the i5)

[Just Your Average Builder]

I'm actually using that same CPU on the computer I'm using right now and it's working fine, the only problems I find are when I'm streaming games (and I rarely do that anyways) - Any reason why I should change it?

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Just Your Average Builder said:

I'm actually using that same CPU on the computer I'm using right now and it's working fine, the only problems I find are when I'm streaming games (and I rarely do that anyways) - Any reason why I should change it?

Wait so the build in the OP is not something you already have, it's something you want to build for the playing of overwatch and such.

 

[The Sloth]

have you looked at craigslist and ebay for used parts? 

[Just Your Average Builder]

3 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Wait so the build in the OP is not something you already have, it's something you want to build for the playing of overwatch and such.

 

Yes, I already have a budget PC built and am planning on building another one with the parts I listen in the original thread - The problem is some of the parts on my CURRENT PC are too expensive, so I'm looking for other alternatives

 

On my CURRENT pc I'm using the same CPU and ram sticks as I listed above ^ - Graphics/PSU/Memory are different

I hope I'm explaining myself well lol

[Energycore]

Look for something like this, you can get the i5 and motherboard used for around those prices on ebay

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($50.00)
Motherboard: Intel DH67BLB3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard  ($60.00)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($36.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Video Card  ($109.99 @ B&H)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $359.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 21:32 EST-0500

[Zyndo]

13 minutes ago, Just Your Average Builder said:

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I would recommend checking out the used market. 350 bucks is not a good amount of money to be making a gaming system on.

 

If you are not going to be using used parts, I would recommend getting a Kaby lake CPU and using the iGPU inside. an intel HD630 should function well enough for overwatch on minimal settings and do very well for LoL. Also gives you an easy upgrade path in the future. up to you though.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Energycore said:

Look for something like this, you can get the i5 and motherboard used for around those prices on ebay

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($50.00)
Motherboard: Intel DH67BLB3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard  ($60.00)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($36.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Video Card  ($109.99 @ B&H)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $359.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 21:32 EST-0500

To add to the list

Seems deadly cheap

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WESTERN-DIGITAL-BLUE-WD10EZEX-1TB-1000GB-INTERNAL-7200RPM-3-5-SATA-HDD-0PGD3Y-/232201290936?hash=item36104684b8:g:fXMAAOSw241Yc~d1

 

For less the price 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seasonic-100163-Power-Supply-S12ii520-Bronze-Retail-520w-Atx12v-V2-3-80-Pfc-/232201706857?hash=item36104cdd69:g:Yx4AAOSwEzxYdC0o

 

Also maybe some used R9/R7 can go around too

 

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

To add to the list

Seems deadly cheap

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WESTERN-DIGITAL-BLUE-WD10EZEX-1TB-1000GB-INTERNAL-7200RPM-3-5-SATA-HDD-0PGD3Y-/232201290936?hash=item36104684b8:g:fXMAAOSw241Yc~d1

 

For less the price 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seasonic-100163-Power-Supply-S12ii520-Bronze-Retail-520w-Atx12v-V2-3-80-Pfc-/232201706857?hash=item36104cdd69:g:Yx4AAOSwEzxYdC0o

 

Also maybe some used R9/R7 can go around too

 

Be mindful of linking directly into ebay, CS advises against it

[Just Your Average Builder]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

To add to the list

Seems deadly cheap

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WESTERN-DIGITAL-BLUE-WD10EZEX-1TB-1000GB-INTERNAL-7200RPM-3-5-SATA-HDD-0PGD3Y-/232201290936?hash=item36104684b8:g:fXMAAOSw241Yc~d1

 

For less the price 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seasonic-100163-Power-Supply-S12ii520-Bronze-Retail-520w-Atx12v-V2-3-80-Pfc-/232201706857?hash=item36104cdd69:g:Yx4AAOSwEzxYdC0o

 

Also maybe some used R9/R7 can go around too

 

That $9 Hard drive sounds like a god send, but it's not. It's only for parts lol

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Energycore said:

Be mindful of linking directly into ebay, CS advises against it

I think it's advertising. I am sure helping other people is not against CS. But I don't know.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Just Your Average Builder said:

That $9 Hard drive sounds like a god send, but it's not. It's only for parts lol

Clickbait tile

[Energycore]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

I think it's advertising. I am sure helping other people is not against CS. But I don't know.

Yeah I don't think you'll get the hammer for linking like that but use them sparingly

[Just Your Average Builder]

Anywho, I think I'll look a little more into Energycore's linked build. Thanks guys!

[Droidbot]

Take a look at used GPUs if you can find a good cheap PSU. I've seen a 780Ti for like $170 refurbished.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Just Your Average Builder said:

Anywho, I think I'll look a little more into Energycore's linked build. Thanks guys!

See if there are any cheaper deals on ebay. You could potentially find some really decent GPU's for cheap there

And I saw some 1TB HDD going cheap too (not the broken one I linked lol)

[dizmo]

You can get away with much cheaper RAM in your original build.

Personally I'd do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($96.25 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DVS/D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($54.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($39.55 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.66 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $275.34

 

And grab a used video card somewhere cheap. I picked up a 7970 for $50 over a year ago, so similar deals should exist.

I can't remember if that CPU is from Kabylake, so you might need to update the BIOS, however it says it's not compatible with B250 motherboards *shrug*

It's basically a poor mans i3.

 

46 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Given your current build, get these

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($173.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Jet)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.89 @ B&H)
Total: $293.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-10 21:25 EST-0500

 

(update your mobo BIOS so it works with the i5)

Eh, don't really need to change the PSU. The EVGA one comes well regarded.

25 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

See if there are any cheaper deals on ebay. You could potentially find some really decent GPU's for cheap there

And I saw some 1TB HDD going cheap too (not the broken one I linked lol)

I think eBay links are fine as long as they're not auctions.

Auctions aren't really overly helpful.

[Energycore]

58 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Eh, don't really need to change the PSU. The EVGA one comes well regarded.

The EVGA 500W1 is an "avoid if possible" kind of PSU. It is possible to avoid it, so I will.

[Energycore]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($96.25 @ B&H)

Kaby CPUs would need a BIOS update to work on H110 motherboards which is a huge hassle

BTW The G4520 is also HT and costs less

[dizmo]

4 minutes ago, Energycore said:

The EVGA 500W1 is an "avoid if possible" kind of PSU. It is possible to avoid it, so I will.

Funny, JonnnyGuru says differently.

 

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What you do get is quite possibly the most solid forty dollar unit on the market today. Would I buy it myself? If I was on that tight a budget, yes. I would. Again... you could do a heck of a lot worse, and not just at this price point.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=384

[Energycore]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Funny, JonnnyGuru says differently.

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=384

JG tests are horribly meager. They don't do hold-up time, don't test whether the protection circuits work, or whether the PWR_OK signal drops with the rails out of spec.

 

And the 430W version did pretty bad in the 100V input current tests at HardOCP

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/9

 

I get that if you buy one of these, it will work. But it doesn't take much money to get a PSU that will take away the chance of all sorts of problems happening ($45 on the S12II 430W). If you don't think that's worth it, I will agree to disagree.

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

And the 430W version did pretty bad in the 100V input current tests at HardOCP

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/9

 

I get that if you buy one of these, it will work. But it doesn't take much money to get a PSU that will take away the chance of all sorts of problems happening ($45 on the S12II 430W). If you don't think that's worth it, I will agree to disagree.

I agree that if you spend more money you get a better product. Only makes sense.
When someone's trying to save money on a $350 build, every dollar usually counts though, and he's not straining the PSU in any way.

 

It's worth noting that different wattage PSUs can come from different suppliers, so saying that xxxW vs xxxW doesn't really make sense.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

I agree that if you spend more money you get a better product. Only makes sense.
When someone's trying to save money on a $350 build, every dollar usually counts though, and he's not straining the PSU in any way.

 

It's worth noting that different wattage PSUs can come from different suppliers, so saying that xxxW vs xxxW doesn't really make sense.

I'm talking about specific models here. The EVGA 430W and 500W are the W1 units, they're made by HEC and are pretty mediocre.