politics Which One Are You?

[CDHoward]

Are You A Modern Alt-Right Nationalist, Or A Multiculturalist?

 

Or None?

 

NOTE: This is an anonymous poll

 

Please be civil, or a Lefty mod might lock it /Jks

[SansVarnic]

And this not a flame war in the making ... nope.  

 

[CDHoward]

If it gets locked, it's massive censorship. It's a perfectly relevant, and interesting, question. And very relevant to the main issue of our entire civilisation and lives.

[KingKeith55]

You should add poll options for in between people. Perhaps leaning towards one side or leaning towards the other?

 

My opinion is as follows, I hope I don't get anyone super offended for it. Not that I really care.

 

I'm not super fond of multiculturalism, because I don't like the idea of other cultures invading or attempting to get rid of the culture that a place already has. Acceptance is fine, but I'm not a big fan of promoting people to keep their old culture. I also think we should have the same expectations for everyone, and there should be no excuses for people avoiding things or doing whatever they want and getting away with it because "It's against my religion" or whatever. Religion/belief should never be an excuse to not do something that everyone else has to do. Unfortunately the problem is lots of religious people use their beliefs as an excuse to avoid doing what they don't want to do, simply by saying "it's against my belief/religion". And as soon as you don't want to cater to them, you get SJW's and whiteknights attacking you simply because you believe in equality and that you think that everyone who is capable should have the same general expectations. Another problem with multiculturalism is that conflicting between people happens a lot easier. It can be applied to the same expectations argument, you get one group saying "We have to do it, you should too" and then you get the other group fighting back because they don't want to.

 

Also, as I have said, I think people having their own belief and religion is great, I just don't like the idea of special treatment and recognition of people with beliefs/religions/cultures different than the "norm" or the place's original culture. We should focus more on integrating everyone together instead of keeping everyone separate from each other.

 

[Sky Daddy]

As long as one's culture isn't violent or inhumane, I really don't care what anybody does as long as they're reasonable and respectable.

 

I dislike the culture of religions that live to spread itself, like a parasite searching for hosts.

 

We really need a culture of individuality, 2017 needs to be the year of the individual. 

[Clanscorpia]

1 hour ago, CDHoward said:

If it gets locked, it's massive censorship. It's a perfectly relevant, and interesting, question. And very relevant to the main issue of our entire civilisation and lives.

How is that censorship? They dont want massive amounts of hate on the forum

[Energycore]

OP please add option for Turnip

[stconquest]

When two people from different cultures live together and interact regularly, the two cultures become one... like a baby.  Cultures are in constant flux.

 

That is the only reason I did not select multi-culturalism, I see cultures as something that cohere.  It is the reason I can laugh when I have people in Toronto being fearful that Sharia Law is a threat here.

 

Nationalists... that would be what exactly?  The "alt-right" in North America is mainly white supremacist.  I say "No" to crack.

[Niemand]

13 hours ago, CDHoward said:

Are You A Modern Alt-Right Nationalist, Or A Multiculturalist?

I'm a trekkie, so the latter.

 

I agree with @stconquest that different cultures become one over time. I think we need to cut the bullshit and keep the good stuff.

 

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Please be civil, or a Lefty mod might lock it /Jks

[CDHoward]

1 minute ago, Niemand said:

I'm a trekkie, so the latter.

 

I'm also a massive sci-fi fan, actually. And, by the way, Star Trek, Star Wars etc are all a part of White Culture ?

 

As a White male, I am actually repressed as we're not allowed to speak or think freely, and our identity, pride and futures have been destroyed.

 

So yeah.

[CDHoward]

11 hours ago, stconquest said:

When two people from different cultures live together and interact regularly, the two cultures become one... like a baby.  Cultures are in constant flux.

 

That is the only reason I did not select multi-culturalism, I see cultures as something that cohere.  It is the reason I can laugh when I have people in Toronto being fearful that Sharia Law is a threat here.

 

Nationalists... that would be what exactly?  The "alt-right" in North America is mainly white supremacist.  I say "No" to crack.

The Alt-Right is not 'White Supremacist'. It's a polite, charming, modern White Nationalist movement (White Nationalism is nothing to do with National Socialism, by the way).

 

Can you name a single good thing that cultures from the Third World have brought us, mate?

[CDHoward]

12 hours ago, Sky Daddy said:

As long as one's culture isn't violent or inhumane, I really don't care what anybody does as long as they're reasonable and respectable.

 

I dislike the culture of religions that live to spread itself, like a parasite searching for hosts.

 

We really need a culture of individuality, 2017 needs to be the year of the individual. 

No. Individualism us the reason our nations have been invaded and colonised, and why we're pushed around. Alone, we're weak, as a collective we're strong....

 

Individualism is all well and good, but not in times of war like we're in now (the physical, demographical, financial, psychological and racial war being waged against White men, women and children right now).

[BiscuitMassacre]

I'd say I'm neither. I'd argue that the USA is the greatest country on earth and I'd consider myself a nationalist, but that doesn't make any sense that I wouldn't be a multiculturalist to a certain degree because all americans have different cultural backgrounds than a different group. 

 

But I don't like the general idea of dividing peoples into different groups because of culture. I believe if you migrate to another country you should try to adapt to their culture and accept other's culture within reason. 

 

I think pardoning Muslims for terrorists attacks because of their "culture" is down right retarded. And not being able to say Merry Christmas because it's offensive is also an abomination. 

 

But if I had to pick a side i'd join the nationalists, but as American Nationalist. Meaning I take pride in our nation as a city on a hill taking in the huddled masses from all different nations yearning breathe free.

[CDHoward]

4 minutes ago, BiscuitMassacre said:

I'd say I'm neither. I'd argue that the USA is the greatest country on earth and I'd consider myself a nationalist, but that doesn't make any sense that I wouldn't be a multiculturalist to a certain degree because all americans have different cultural backgrounds than a different group. 

 

But I don't like the general idea of dividing peoples into different groups because of culture. I believe if you migrate to another country you should try to adapt to their culture and accept other's culture within reason. 

 

I think pardoning Muslims for terrorists attacks because of their "culture" is down right retarded. And not being able to say Merry Christmas because it's offensive is also an abomination. 

 

But if I had to pick a side i'd join the nationalists, but as American Nationalist. Meaning I take pride in our nation as a city on a hill taking in the huddled masses from all different nations yearning breathe free.

Reasonable, very moderate outlook, mate.

[Codiac]

13 hours ago, KingKeith55 said:

You should add poll options for in between people. Perhaps leaning towards one side or leaning towards the other?

 

My opinion is as follows, I hope I don't get anyone super offended for it. Not that I really care.

 

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This, so much this.

[Codiac]

12 minutes ago, BiscuitMassacre said:

I'd say I'm neither. I'd argue that the USA is the greatest country on earth and I'd consider myself a nationalist, but that doesn't make any sense that I wouldn't be a multiculturalist to a certain degree because all americans have different cultural backgrounds than a different group. 

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I agree, very reasonable.

[Niemand]

2 hours ago, CDHoward said:

I'm also a massive sci-fi fan, actually. And, by the way, Star Trek, Star Wars etc are all a part of White Culture ?

Just because it was made in a Western country it doesn't mean it's part of white culture. If anything, it's part of Western culture. Culture is only divided by race when there is actual racial segregation in the same place.

 

In places where there is no segregation, people of all races contribute to form a single culture, and culture is divided by geography (and sometimes social classes), but not race.

 

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As a White male, I am actually repressed as we're not allowed to speak or think freely, and our identity, pride and futures have been destroyed.

As another white male, I have no clue what you're talking about as I am allowed to speak and think freely, and because my identity, pride and future are fucking fine atm.

 

We are allowed to speak freely, and others are allowed to criticize our speech.

 

We are allowed to think freely, as we are the masters of our minds.

 

I would only think that my identity, pride and future would be destroyed if I thought they were superior to other people's identity, pride and future. The notion of equality is no threat to people who don't think they're better than others.

[stconquest]

I don't have the time or energy for this thread, some funny stuff going on here though.

 

@CDHoward  I am a privileged "white" male and I have never felt guilt or repression in any way for being this way.  I would recommend you look inward as to why you feel these things.  It is unnecessary.  Maybe you don't know how to use the ability of empathy to understand what someone struggling experiences so you express a cold demeanor that turns people against you.  This might cause you to think it is because of your ethnicity, but in reality it is simply because you said/did the wrong thing.  If you think that being anti-PC is a good thing, I could easily change that notion if I were to start being anti-PC towards you.

 

The "third world" has given us nothing?  Wow, I will leave this alone for now.  Think survival of the race, among other aspects like medicine, mathematics, language, etc...

 

You are not an island unto yourself, really. 

[Niemand]

2 hours ago, CDHoward said:

Can you name a single good thing that cultures from the Third World have brought us, mate?

Rihanna.

 

She's single.

[Guest Kloaked]

15 hours ago, CDHoward said:

If it gets locked, it's massive censorship. It's a perfectly relevant, and interesting, question. And very relevant to the main issue of our entire civilisation and lives.

I wouldn't call it censorship. They have perfectly good reasons to lock threads like this even though I don't personally agree with locking it.

[Niemand]

"The Islamic Golden Age refers to a period in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 13th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.^[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.^[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasions and the Sack of Baghdad in 1258 AD.^[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.^[1][2][3]" - Wikipedia

 

Scholars at an Abbasid library, from the Maqamat of al-Hariri by Yahya ibn Mahmud al-Wasiti, Baghdad, 1237 AD

[Niemand]

14 hours ago, Energycore said:

OP please add option for Turnip

The night is dark, and full of turnips.

[CDHoward]

I wish Linus would share his political views etc. I've always been interested to know what they are.

 

If he's pro-multiculturalism, pro-immigration etc it would very severely erode my respect for him etc.

[BiscuitMassacre]

2 minutes ago, CDHoward said:

I wish Linus would share his political views etc. I've always been interested to know what they are.

 

If he's pro-multiculturalism, pro-immigration etc it would very severely erode my respect for him etc.

That's exactly why he doesn't. I can't stand Casey Neisat now.

[CDHoward]

2 minutes ago, BiscuitMassacre said:

That's exactly why he doesn't. I can't stand Casey Neisat now.

Yeah, I kinda understand why he doesn't share them.

 

If he came out as anti-immigration etc, 10's of millions of non-Whites, and a few White Cucks, would no longer like him and he'd lose their business.

 

I like to think he's Alt-Lite, though ?