How much is enough?

[porina]

This is a random thought on my side. I'm often thinking "how can I make my main system better?". I don't ask "should I make my main system better?" until now. I have a typical 2015 higher mainstream gaming PC, with a 6700k and 980 Ti. Not ultra-high end, but enough to drive the 3440x1440 60Hz monitor without worrying about it.

 

I'm looking at Ryzen. I'm looking at the rumoured 1080 Ti. I'm looking at 4k G-sync monitors, and more. I'm now thinking, would it make enough of a difference to what I do? Probably not. I don't need it, but I still want it... Anyone else feel this way? #firstworldproblems

 

Maybe I'll just add some more RGB lighting instead... Everyone knows the speed of a system is directly proportional to the amount of lighting fitted.  

[Mr.Meerkat]

Nah, you need moar powah obviously  

 

Joking aside, I think once I get meself the Vega GPU I promised myself ever since my 2 290Xs died, I'm not going to upgrade till I maybe finish Uni? (which would be 5.5 years from now as I still have 1.5 years of high school/sixth form left).

[AlTech]

4 minutes ago, porina said:

This is a random thought on my side. I'm often thinking "how can I make my main system better?". I don't ask "should I make my main system better?" until now. I have a typical 2015 higher mainstream gaming PC, with a 6700k and 980 Ti. Not ultra-high end, but enough to drive the 3440x1440 60Hz monitor without worrying about it.

 

I'm looking at Ryzen. I'm looking at the rumoured 1080 Ti. I'm looking at 4k G-sync monitors, and more. I'm now thinking, would it make enough of a difference to what I do? Probably not. I don't need it, but I still want it... Anyone else feel this way? #firstworldproblems

 

Maybe I'll just add some more RGB lighting instead... Everyone knows the speed of a system is directly proportional to the amount of lighting fitted.  

At that point, the best upgrade you'd probably notice is buying a HDR monitor.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Nah, you need moar powah obviously  

 

Joking aside, I think once I get meself the Vega GPU I promised myself ever since my 2 290Xs died, I'm not going to upgrade till I maybe finish Uni? (which would be 5.5 years from now as I still have 1.5 years of high school/sixth form left).

I have around 4-6 months of sixth form left.

[Joe_MacDougall]

I don't even see the point in upgrading. The only upgrade I can think of that will actually help is the monitor.

[Mr.Meerkat]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

I have around 4-6 months of sixth form left.

Fair enough, final 2 years of high school...damn, if I screw up this year's exams then bye bye high tier universities...

[porina]

3 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Joking aside, I think once I get meself the Vega GPU I promised myself ever since my 2 290Xs died, I'm not going to upgrade till I maybe finish Uni? (which would be 5.5 years from now as I still have 1.5 years of high school/sixth form left).

Oops, I had forgotten about Vega, but that is still too unknown to guess at. 

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

At that point, the best upgrade you'd probably notice is buying a HDR monitor.

Maybe... once support for it is tangible.

1 minute ago, Joe_MacDougall said:

I don't even see the point in upgrading. The only upgrade I can think of that will actually help is the monitor.

I half debated replacing current with a G-sync model but it is a huge amount of cash plus I'd likely have to shift my existing one as having two ultra-wides isn't going to fit.

 

I probably should have added more background. Until the replacement last year, I had been on a 2600k and AMD HD era GPU. The new PC, combined with re-ignited PC gaming fuelled my tech interest once again. When I get interested in something, I really get into it. Fortunately tech is cheaper than some hobbies I've had in the past. I love building systems, and am really looking forward to Ryzen or some derivative, but perhaps not as a main system. My main system feels a little neglected as new things come along though...

[Joe_MacDougall]

1 minute ago, porina said:

 Fortunately tech is cheaper than some hobbies I've had in the past.

Where you a car guy?

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Joe_MacDougall said:

Where you a car guy?

 

That's my problem. I remain a car guy AND a PC guy.  PCs are a lot cheaper.  

[Froody129]

Enough? What does that mean?

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, porina said:

My main system feels a little neglected as new things come along though...

Talk about my mini ITX PC, that's properly neglected as frankly I already have my 5820K, RX470 combo serving me  

 

I think I may jump the gun and sell it? I just don't use it enough, I always say I'm going to take it to my next LAN party at a friend's house but I don't...my i7 4500U and 840M laptop is more than powerful enough for the games we play...damn.

[Joe_MacDougall]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

That's my problem. I remain a car guy AND a PC guy.  PCs are a lot cheaper.  

RIP. haha 

I'm quite a fan of both too. One is considerably more affordable but one doesn't become obsolete nearly as quickly.

[porina]

Just now, Joe_MacDougall said:

Where you a car guy?

Fortunately not, although I kinda looked at parts of it...

 

I suppose my most expensive interest was photography, specialising in astrophotography where the sky is the limit! (sowwy!) I've also kept a load of reptiles and fish (inc. marine) but that was more time consuming than cash consuming.

9 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Fair enough, final 2 years of high school...damn, if I screw up this year's exams then bye bye high tier universities...

All of a sudden I feel really old... I got ok grades, went to a university for convenience than quality, and ended up in a tech job which pays well enough to enable me to indulge my hobbies, and has a level of world travel for better or worse.

[Misanthrope]

Ryzen + 1080ti for 4k Gsync should work fine: it would do about as good as a Titan X Pee does right now with a 4790k (more or less). Without Gsync I'd argue that 4k might still have dips into 40s frequently but with Gsync it shouldn't matter. I'd say that'd be a pretty great rig, but the 1080ti might be pretty penny and the 4k gsync screen as well.

 

A 490 4k freesync monitor combo (also with Ryzen) should probably end up between the 1070 and 1080 in levels of power so not as capable of 4k but with only a few settings tweaked, it might give a remarkable similar experience for remarkable less money.

[Mooshi]

Why get hype over slideshows when you have gear that actually exists? lmao

[porina]

1 hour ago, Misanthrope said:

Ryzen + 1080ti for 4k Gsync should work fine: it would do about as good as a Titan X Pee does right now with a 4790k (more or less). Without Gsync I'd argue that 4k might still have dips into 40s frequently but with Gsync it shouldn't matter. I'd say that'd be a pretty great rig, but the 1080ti might be pretty penny and the 4k gsync screen as well.

 

A 490 4k freesync monitor combo (also with Ryzen) should probably end up between the 1070 and 1080 in levels of power so not as capable of 4k but with only a few settings tweaked, it might give a remarkable similar experience for remarkable less money.

I was looking at each part individually, and wasn't necessarily going to get every new thing and put it in a new system.

1 hour ago, Mooshi said:

Why get hype over slideshows when you have gear that actually exists? lmao

But, hype! I actually own a T-shirt from another 'tube channel I follow, which features "Hype" in big letters on the front.

 

New, shiny, must have the precious...

 

Right, now I've got to find if someone has already posted the latest "leaked" benchmark for Ryzen so I can comment on it...

[App4that]

Hype is fun, hardware upgrades are fun, bragging about your epeen online is really fun. 

 

But a stable gaming experience is, funer. That takes effort, even with high end hardware. Don't lose sight as to what a PC is for. 

[THFourteen]

6 hours ago, porina said:

Fortunately not, although I kinda looked at parts of it...

 

I suppose my most expensive interest was photography, specialising in astrophotography where the sky is the limit! (sowwy!) I've also kept a load of reptiles and fish (inc. marine) but that was more time consuming than cash consuming.

All of a sudden I feel really old... I got ok grades, went to a university for convenience than quality, and ended up in a tech job which pays well enough to enable me to indulge my hobbies, and has a level of world travel for better or worse.

And then you got married, had kids, and they soaked up all your disposable income in nappies, schools and food and you never upgraded again :-)

[App4that]

28 minutes ago, THFourteen said:

And then you got married, had kids, and they soaked up all your disposable income in nappies, schools and food and you never upgraded again :-)

And now you know why the child free movement exists. We have cookies. 

[TheBestUserName]

8 hours ago, porina said:

I don't need it, but I still want it... Anyone else feel this way? #firstworldproblems

Only with the [too] many previous-gen console games I've bought in the last month.  

(PS3, GameCube, and Wii U)

 

My pc has the same main components you mentioned. I'm bored with my computer. My consoles have reacquired my attention.

[AdmiralIronside]

If you're not sure whether to upgrade now  wait until there is more concrete information on AMDs 7 nanometer process expected to come in 2018 or you actually find that you need an upgrade.

If your computer is for personal use then the biggest benefit that you'd see with a ryzen processor over 6700k is in being able to game stream on a singlePC.

 

Information on amds 7nm plans:

 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-zen-10nm-7nm-intel,32619.html

 

Speculation on amds 7nm plans:

http://wccftech.com/starship-amd-processor-48-cores-7nm/

 

EDIT: And save like crazy...