Posted December 16, 2016 Okay so this is stressing me out. Is what the CPU doing normal for Skylake? http://imgur.com/a/3QhFz I ran a 3770K previously and I dont remember the utilization chart to be so... jittery when idle. CPU speeds seem to vary wildly from 1.24 GHz to 4 GHz. Again, this is during idle. Something is up and it's driving me nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Looks okay, are there any programs in the task manager that randomly spike in CPU usage? PC Specs AMD Ryzen 7 3800X | MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus | 16GB Team T-Force 3400MHz | Zotac GTX 1080 AMP EXTREME BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | NZXT 750W | Phanteks Eclipse P400A Extras: ASUS Zephyrus G14 (2021) | OnePlus 7 Pro | Fully restored Robosapien V2, Omnibot 2000, Omnibot 5402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 That's actually fairly normal. My 5930K sees similar utilization jumps. It's usually just because of background processes, drivers, and some programs (for me, mainly Edge, Corsair Link, and MSI's Gaming App) doing their thing. I don't see any jumps in clock due to my 4.2GHz OC though. Come Bloody Angel Break off your chains And look what I've found in the dirt. Pale battered body Seems she was struggling Something is wrong with this world. Fierce Bloody Angel The blood is on your hands Why did you come to this world? Everybody turns to dust. Everybody turns to dust. The blood is on your hands. The blood is on your hands! Pyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Author 1 minute ago, ShadowTechXTS said: Looks okay, are there any programs in the task manager that randomly spike in CPU usage? http://imgur.com/a/FL1xf This is what stands out to me. Part of the ASUS EZ Update software? Or the AI Suite? Is it posing a problem? CPU Utilization seems to spike to 6% and 0%, up and down at very regular intervals. The hills and valleys in the CPU Chart does not sit well with me at all. By saying that it looks fine are you saying that all Skylake CPUs perform like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Ordinarily Id agree that this looks off. But consider for a moment that even at Idle, your CPU has to be used sometimes for windows to run, even if its only 3 or 4%. tack on some bloatware and other installed applicaitons and you could easily be looking at a 6% or so average utilization at idle. The peaks and valleys you are seeing are a power saving technique most likely.. the OS and processor working together to cluster commands to make the most efficient and effective use of their clockrate and power draw. Linux Daily Driver: CPU: R5 2400G Motherboard: MSI B350M Mortar RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 HDD: 1TB POS HDD from an old Dell SSD: 256GB WD Black NVMe M.2 Case: Phanteks Mini XL DS PSU: 1200W Corsair HX1200 Gaming Rig: CPU: i7 6700K @ 4.4GHz Motherboard: Gigabyte Z270-N Wi-Fi ITX RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 GPU: Asus Turbo GTX 1070 @ 2GHz HDD: 3TB Toshiba something or other SSD: 512GB WD Black NVMe M.2 Case: Shared with Daily - Phanteks Mini XL DS PSU: Shared with Daily - 1200W Corsair HX1200 Server CPU: Ryzen7 1700 Motherboard: MSI X370 SLI Plus RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 GPU: Nvidia GT 710 HDD: 1X 10TB Seagate ironwolf NAS Drive. 4X 3TB WD Red NAS Drive. SSD: Adata 128GB Case: NZXT Source 210 (white) PSU: EVGA 650 G2 80Plus Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Author 3 minutes ago, MedievalMatt said: Ordinarily Id agree that this looks off. But consider for a moment that even at Idle, your CPU has to be used sometimes for windows to run, even if its only 3 or 4%. tack on some bloatware and other installed applicaitons and you could easily be looking at a 6% or so average utilization at idle. The peaks and valleys you are seeing are a power saving technique most likely.. the OS and processor working together to cluster commands to make the most efficient and effective use of their clockrate and power draw. Yeah I get what you're saying. But I mean come on, 4GHz clock speed at 7% utilization??:- http://imgur.com/a/x197c Is there funk here, or can i just safely ignore it and proceed to overclocking? Or maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, and there's some hidden factor i did not consider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 34 minutes ago, grasspuff said: Is what the CPU doing normal for Skylake? Yes this is normal, its just the NSA downloading your browsing history. You have 93 processes, I imagine things like steam in the background will be doing some work, mine is right now, I have all cores floating between 2% and 15% ☼ ψ ︿_____︿_ψ_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, grasspuff said: Yeah I get what you're saying. But I mean come on, 4GHz clock speed at 7% utilization??:- http://imgur.com/a/x197c Is there funk here, or can i just safely ignore it and proceed to overclocking? Or maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, and there's some hidden factor i did not consider I think you misunderstand what this means. That graph shows how much of your CPU you are currently using. It only updates every once a second or so, so it will jump around a little. Because you are not doing anything to difficult for the CPU to handle, it doesn't really have to try. If you put a 3D load on it, that usage will spike up to the 60-100% range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Author 11 minutes ago, CobbleWalker said: I think you misunderstand what this means. That graph shows how much of your CPU you are currently using. It only updates every once a second or so, so it will jump around a little. Because you are not doing anything to difficult for the CPU to handle, it doesn't really have to try. If you put a 3D load on it, that usage will spike up to the 60-100% range. Alright then. But it still doesn't explain why my CPU clock speed constantly varies wildly. I mean if its not really doing anything, shouldn't the clock speed variations be subtle and only in the 1 to 1.5-ish range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Author 14 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said: Yes this is normal, its just the NSA downloading your browsing history. You have 93 processes, I imagine things like steam in the background will be doing some work, mine is right now, I have all cores floating between 2% and 15% No, this is a fresh OS install. nothing like Steam or the sort, just proprietary ASUS software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, grasspuff said: No, this is a fresh OS install. nothing like Steam or the sort, just proprietary ASUS software There will always be more than 0% CPU utilization, most of it is prob the task manager itself ☼ ψ ︿_____︿_ψ_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, grasspuff said: No, this is a fresh OS install. nothing like Steam or the sort, just proprietary ASUS software You just need more cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Author 4 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said: There will always be more than 0% CPU utilization, most of it is prob the task manager itself Agreed. Still doesn't explain the wildly varying clock speeds I'm getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, grasspuff said: Agreed. Still doesn't explain the wildly varying clock speeds I'm getting Don't use Task Manager to determine clock speed. EVER! Don't worry about your utilization. Don't worry about your clock speed. Both are fine unless you have some specific issues that are occurring as a result of either. Sit back and enjoy your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 Author 4 minutes ago, done12many2 said: Don't use Task Manager to determine clock speed. EVER! Don't worry about your utilization. Don't worry about your clock speed. Both are fine unless you have some specific issues that are occurring as a result of either. Sit back and enjoy your PC. rly tho? It's not something like bad power delivery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, grasspuff said: rly tho? It's not something like bad power delivery? Are you having any specific issues? If not, it seems like your kinda looking for problems that don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 21, 2016 Author On 12/16/2016 at 11:56 AM, done12many2 said: Are you having any specific issues? If not, it seems like your kinda looking for problems that don't exist. On 12/16/2016 at 11:35 AM, SCHISCHKA said: There will always be more than 0% CPU utilization, most of it is prob the task manager itself On 12/16/2016 at 11:15 AM, CobbleWalker said: I think you misunderstand what this means. That graph shows how much of your CPU you are currently using. It only updates every once a second or so, so it will jump around a little. Because you are not doing anything to difficult for the CPU to handle, it doesn't really have to try. If you put a 3D load on it, that usage will spike up to the 60-100% range. On 12/16/2016 at 10:57 AM, MedievalMatt said: Ordinarily Id agree that this looks off. But consider for a moment that even at Idle, your CPU has to be used sometimes for windows to run, even if its only 3 or 4%. tack on some bloatware and other installed applicaitons and you could easily be looking at a 6% or so average utilization at idle. The peaks and valleys you are seeing are a power saving technique most likely.. the OS and processor working together to cluster commands to make the most efficient and effective use of their clockrate and power draw. On 12/16/2016 at 10:49 AM, Drak3 said: That's actually fairly normal. My 5930K sees similar utilization jumps. It's usually just because of background processes, drivers, and some programs (for me, mainly Edge, Corsair Link, and MSI's Gaming App) doing their thing. I don't see any jumps in clock due to my 4.2GHz OC though. So I finally installed a better monitoring software, and I'm currently in the process of tinkering the clocks. What is up with my CPU clock? I mean, I'm trying to ignore it but that's proving reallyyy hard to do. Can you guys post graph pictures from your machines so I can at least get a comparison? This graph is is showing my CPU at idle. and it just jumps from 800MHz to 4.6GHz CONSTANTLY, like, there is no in between frequency, just 800MHz and the max clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 21, 2016 this is the computer im on now ☼ ψ ︿_____︿_ψ_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 21, 2016 It may be different with Intel (I'm an AMD fanboy), but turn Turbo Boost off man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 21, 2016 7 hours ago, grasspuff said: So I finally installed a better monitoring software, and I'm currently in the process of tinkering the clocks. What is up with my CPU clock? I mean, I'm trying to ignore it but that's proving reallyyy hard to do. Can you guys post graph pictures from your machines so I can at least get a comparison? This graph is is showing my CPU at idle. and it just jumps from 800MHz to 4.6GHz CONSTANTLY, like, there is no in between frequency, just 800MHz and the max clock. This is normal. The clock rate changes dynamically much faster that is displayed by these applicaitons. and with instruction clustering, your CPU may indeed need to get by for a time at 800MHz and then need to ramp to 4.6GHz or whatever your max is, to run a series of instructions, then ramp back down. your CPU is DESIGNED TO DO THIS. and this action IS PERFECTLY NORMAL. 800MHz represents a significant power and wear savings for your CPU over always running at 4.6 all the time forever. Think about it like the RPMs of your Car engine. if your car always ran at 10K RPM all of the time. it A - wouldn't last very long and B - wouldn't be fuel efficient in any way. Despite the rest of your car being totally cool with that. Linux Daily Driver: CPU: R5 2400G Motherboard: MSI B350M Mortar RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 HDD: 1TB POS HDD from an old Dell SSD: 256GB WD Black NVMe M.2 Case: Phanteks Mini XL DS PSU: 1200W Corsair HX1200 Gaming Rig: CPU: i7 6700K @ 4.4GHz Motherboard: Gigabyte Z270-N Wi-Fi ITX RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 GPU: Asus Turbo GTX 1070 @ 2GHz HDD: 3TB Toshiba something or other SSD: 512GB WD Black NVMe M.2 Case: Shared with Daily - Phanteks Mini XL DS PSU: Shared with Daily - 1200W Corsair HX1200 Server CPU: Ryzen7 1700 Motherboard: MSI X370 SLI Plus RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 GPU: Nvidia GT 710 HDD: 1X 10TB Seagate ironwolf NAS Drive. 4X 3TB WD Red NAS Drive. SSD: Adata 128GB Case: NZXT Source 210 (white) PSU: EVGA 650 G2 80Plus Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 21, 2016 I have the 6700k and my CPU at idle is similar to yours. Don't worry System CPU I7 6700K Overclocked to 4.6 GHz at 1.33v Motherboard Asus Z270 PRIME - A RAM GSKILL RIPJAWS V DDR4 16GB 3000MHZ GPU MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G overclocked to 2063 MHZ and 8900 MHZ memory clock Case NZXT S340 RED Storage WD 1TB BLUE AND SAMSUNG EVO 250GB SSD PSU EVGA 650W GQ Display(s) LG 25UM58-P ULTRAWIDE and LG 29UM58-P 29 ULTRAWIDE Cooling CORSAIR H100I GTX Keyboard CORSAIR K70 Mouse LOGITECH G502 PROTEUS SPECTRUM Operating System Windows 10 PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 21, 2016 Author 4 hours ago, MedievalMatt said: This is normal. The clock rate changes dynamically much faster that is displayed by these applicaitons. and with instruction clustering, your CPU may indeed need to get by for a time at 800MHz and then need to ramp to 4.6GHz or whatever your max is, to run a series of instructions, then ramp back down. your CPU is DESIGNED TO DO THIS. and this action IS PERFECTLY NORMAL. 800MHz represents a significant power and wear savings for your CPU over always running at 4.6 all the time forever. Think about it like the RPMs of your Car engine. if your car always ran at 10K RPM all of the time. it A - wouldn't last very long and B - wouldn't be fuel efficient in any way. Despite the rest of your car being totally cool with that. 3 hours ago, laushik said: I have the 6700k and my CPU at idle is similar to yours. Don't worry 6 hours ago, CDHoward said: It may be different with Intel (I'm an AMD fanboy), but turn Turbo Boost off man. Alright then, I'll just leave it be. Thanks again for putting my mind at ease, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 23, 2016 On 12/21/2016 at 5:21 PM, grasspuff said: Alright then, I'll just leave it be. Thanks again for putting my mind at ease, guys. Mark this post as solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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