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1 minute ago, MageTank said:

Yeah, before that I had a Geforce 6200, Geforce 6150SE (onboard), Geforce 5200, and an ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro. I have a Geforce2 MX in my closet still, as it was the very first GPU that I got (was a hand-me-down from my dad way back in the day). 

Had a 5200 myself, worst card I ever had. Plainly awful. 

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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

Had a 5200 myself, worst card I ever had. Plainly awful. 

I mostly played old MMO's back when I had it, which were basically bound by the CPU, so I didn't have too many problems with it. One game I specifically remember playing was Medal of Honor Allied Assault: Spearhead. Though, I don't think it ran poorly. There was also "No One Lives Forever", another favorite game of mine. 

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On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

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6 minutes ago, MageTank said:

I mostly played old MMO's back when I had it, which were basically bound by the CPU, so I didn't have too many problems with it. One game I specifically remember playing was Medal of Honor Allied Assault: Spearhead. Though, I don't think it ran poorly. There was also "No One Lives Forever", another favorite game of mine. 

I remember I had so many issues with Vice City on it. So many issues. But at least my fav at the time Age Of Mithology had no issues. And UT99 naturally.

Oh James Bond. I rocked Nightfire myself quite a lot. 

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40 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Yeah, before that I had a Geforce 6200, Geforce 6150SE (onboard), Geforce 5200, and an ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro. I have a Geforce2 MX in my closet still, as it was the very first GPU that I got (was a hand-me-down from my dad way back in the day). 

I've had Matrox G200, Geforce MX 440 (returned it cos it didn't support TnL), Geforce FX 5600, Geforce 6600GT, Geforce 8800GTS (Still have it), ATI 9250, ATI 9500, ATI X800GTO. Just the list of old cards I can actually remember of course.

 

My two personal favorites were the Matrox G200 (Wooo Diablo 2) and the ATI X800GTO. 

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1 hour ago, MageTank said:

General rule of thumb is:

Titan/x80Ti = Halo or Top Tier

x80/x70 = High end

x60/x50(Ti) = Mid end

GT(non-X) = Low end

 

Beats the old G92 days, where you had GT, GTS, GTX, GTX+, Ultra, etc. 

It's funny how people ignore the official product range from the manufacture and insert their own personal preferences in to it. I mean you can say how bad a card is but it doesn't change what the manufacturer considers it and where it was targeted. And tons of people, which I think you pointed out?, still run 700p-1080p range of monitors so the RX480's/1050Ti's/1060's are actually way more than they need.

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It's funny how people ignore the official product range from the manufacture and insert their own personal preferences in to it. I mean you can say how bad a card is but it doesn't change what the manufacturer considers it and where it was targeted. And tons of people, which I think you pointed out?, still run 700p-1080p range of monitors so the RX480's/1050Ti's/1060's are actually way more than they need.

Yeah, resolution is seriously half of the equation when it comes to gaming. To quote a friend of mine: "You are only truly bottlenecked by your monitor", lol. CPU can't handle that high framerate? Crank the resolution up and shift the bottleneck, at least get some extra graphical fidelity out of it. 

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On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

Sometimes, we all need a little inspiration.

 

 

 

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Just now, Bouzoo said:

The mid range card? :P

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_X800_Series

 

That lineup was the most complicating one I ever saw. 

Yea it was the AGP model but I unlocked it to the top end card possible, X800XT, since you could.

 

The X1900 series was the most confusing by far.

 

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Radeon X1900
CrossFire Edition 		Jan. 24, 2006 R580 90 384 352 PCI-E x16 625 725 48:8:16:16 10.0 1.25 10.0 512 46.4 GDDR3 256 100 9.0c 2.0 $
Radeon X1900 GT May 5, 2006 R580 90 384 352 PCI-E x16 575 600 36:8:12:12 6.90 1.15 6.90 256 38.4 GDDR3 256 75 9.0c 2.0 $
Radeon X1900 GT Rev. 2 Sept. 7, 2006 R580 90 384 352 PCI-E x16 512 660 36:8:12:12 6.144 1.024 6.144 256 42.64 GDDR3 256   9.0c 2.0 $
Radeon X1900 XT Jan. 24, 2006 R580 90 384 352 PCI-E x16 625 725 48:8:16:16 10.0 1.25 10.0 256
512 		46.4 GDDR3 256 100 9.0c 2.0 $299
Radeon X1900 XTX Jan. 24, 2006 R580 90 384 352 PCI-E x16 650 775 48:8:16:16 10.4 1.30 10.4 512 49.6 GDDR3 256 135 9.0c 2.0 $399
Radeon X1950
CrossFire Edition 		Aug. 23, 2006 R580+ 80 384 352 PCI-E x16 650 1000 48:8:16:16 10.4 1.30 10.4 512 46.4 GDDR4 256   9.0c 2.0 $
Radeon X1950 GT Jan. 29, 2007 (PCI-E)
Feb. 10, 2007 (AGP) 		RV570 80 330 230 AGP 8x
PCI-E x16 		500 600 36:8:12:12 6.00 1.00 6.00 256
512 		38.4 GDDR3 256 57 9.0c 2.0 $140
Radeon X1950 PRO Oct. 17, 2006 (PCI-E)
Oct. 25, 2006 (AGP) 		RV570 80 330 230 AGP 8x
PCI-E x16 		575 690 36:8:12:12 6.90 1.15 6.90 256
512 		44.16 GDDR3 256 66 9.0c 2.0 $
Radeon X1950 XT Oct. 17, 2006 (PCI-E)
Feb. 18, 2007 (AGP) 		R580+ 80 384 352 AGP 8x
PCI-E 1.0 x16 		625 700 (AGP)
900 (PCI-E) 		48:8:16:16 10.0 1.25 10.0 256
512 		44.8 (AGP)
57.6 (PCI-E) 		GDDR3 256 96 9.0c 2.0 $
Radeon X1950 XTX Oct. 17, 2006 R580+ 80 384 352 PCI-E 1.0 x16 650 1000 48:8:16:16 10.4 1.30 10.4 512 64 GDDR4 256 125 9.0c 2.0 $449

 

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1 minute ago, MageTank said:

Yeah, resolution is seriously half of the equation when it comes to gaming. To quote a friend of mine: "You are only truly bottlenecked by your monitor", lol. CPU can't handle that high framerate? Crank the resolution up and shift the bottleneck, at least get some extra graphical fidelity out of it. 

To be fair, resolution is half the story when it comes to details as well. I'd rsther play at 1080p on med-high than on 900p high. Those gaps between pixels are far more noticable than high vs medium textures imo. 

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5 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Yea it was the AGP model but I unlocked it to the top end card possible, X800XT, since you could.

 

The X1900 series was the most confusing by far.

 

 

That's like 10 cards, 800 series had 11. :P On a serious note, both are messed up, and people complain about current naming lineups. Please.

Except Intel, because fuck reasoning. 

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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

To be fair, resolution is half the story when it comes to details as well. I'd rsther play at 1080p on med-high than on 900p high. Those gaps between pixels are far more noticable than high vs medium textures imo. 

One thing to be careful of too though with modern monitors unlike CRT is the native resolution. Anything that isn't the native resolution will always look garbage(ish) due to pixel misalignment. So to compare resolutions you'd need monitors that run those as native to do a proper test, not saying you haven't just something interesting to keep in mind.

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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

To be fair, resolution is half the story when it comes to details as well. I'd rsther play at 1080p on med-high than on 900p high. Those gaps between pixels are far more noticable than high vs medium textures imo. 

To each their own. I'd rather see fast play-doh graphics, than slow photo-realistic flipbooks. I suppose it would depend on the genre of game. In any competitive game, speed > graphics, while I don't mind low FPS RPG's as long as they look great. 

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On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

Sometimes, we all need a little inspiration.

 

 

 

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That's like 10 cards, 800 series had 11. :P On a serious note, both are messed up, and people complain about current naming lineups. Please.

20 cos each card had an AGP variant and a PCIe variant, but then so did the X800 lol. Old gaming was so much harder.

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1 minute ago, MageTank said:

To each their own. I'd rather see fast play-doh graphics, than slow photo-realistic flipbooks. I suppose it would depend on the genre of game. In any competitive game, speed > graphics, while I don't mind low FPS RPG's as long as they look great. 

I try to balance it. 45-50+ FPS with good details. People say "You need to cap that 60 FPS u noob" but that is debatable. Sure, if I can I will, but I don't want to have games like they came out from Low Spec Gamers channel. 

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4 minutes ago, leadeater said:

20 cos each card had an AGP variant and a PCIe variant, but then so did the X800 lol. Old gaming was so much harder.

I was recently able to re-revive my old HP NX9420 with x1600 mobility and it crushes older games with Win 7 (8 and 10 have drivers issues because reasons). For fun I played again SW: Republic Commando on it, the whole game. Man those old chips are great. No hiccups whatsoever. 

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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

I try to balance it. 45-50+ FPS with good details. People say "You need to cap that 60 FPS u noob" but that is debatable. Sure, if I can I will, but I don't want to have games like they came out from Low Spec Gamers channel. 

The only time I care about FPS is when I'm benchmarking my system, beyond that as long as the game plays smoothly I don't care. I'll even put up with a small amount of banding.

 

I used to play competitive COD4 on my X800GTO with a steel ball mouse on super low res (CRT), best 4 years of gaming enjoyment ever. Not that I took it that seriously I just really enjoyed it and just happened to be good so got asked to play for a few teams, till they realized I didn't actually give a shit about rankings lol.

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1 minute ago, leadeater said:

The only time I care about FPS is when I'm benchmarking my system, beyond that as long as the game plays smoothly I don't care. I'll even put up with a small amount of banding.

 

I used to play competitive COD4 on my X800GTO with a steel ball mouse on super low res (CRT), best 4 years of gaming enjoyment ever. Not that I took it that seriously I just really enjoyed it and just happened to be good so got asked to play for a few teams, till they realized I didn't actually give a shit about rankings lol.

You just described my Overwatch experience, lol. 

 

On another note: Once I finish saving up money, and recovering from the Holiday expenses, I'll be getting myself a fancy G-Sync monitor for $430. It's a TN, but at least it's a high-end TN. 

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On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

Sometimes, we all need a little inspiration.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, MageTank said:

You just described my Overwatch experience, lol. 

 

On another note: Once I finish saving up money, and recovering from the Holiday expenses, I'll be getting myself a fancy G-Sync monitor for $430. It's a TN, but at least it's a high-end TN. 

Iirc Lays has one of those and after calibration he says it's like IPS when looking directly. 

3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

The only time I care about FPS is when I'm benchmarking my system, beyond that as long as the game plays smoothly I don't care. I'll even put up with a small amount of banding.

 

I used to play competitive COD4 on my X800GTO with a steel ball mouse on super low res (CRT), best 4 years of gaming enjoyment ever. Not that I took it that seriously I just really enjoyed it and just happened to be good so got asked to play for a few teams, till they realized I didn't actually give a shit about rankings lol.

My original Dota experience right up there. COD4 is probably 50% at fault for my Toshiba with Mobility HD4650 giving up. Well that and OCing. 

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I can only ask "how do either compare to my 970?" because that's all I have to compare to.

Ketchup is better than mustard.

GUI is better than Command Line Interface.

Dubs are better than subs

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Just now, Bouzoo said:

Iirc Lays has one of those and after calibration he says it's like IPS when looking directly. 

My original Dota experience right up there. COD4 is probably 50% at fault for my Toshiba with Mobility HD4650 giving up. Well that and OCing. 

@Lays has some ROG monitor (and more money than brains) love you buddy

 

The one I want is this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-S2417DG-YNY1D-24-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B01IOO4SGK

 

My (incomplete) memory overclocking guide: 

 

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On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

Sometimes, we all need a little inspiration.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, MageTank said:

@Lays has some ROG monitor (and more money than brains) love you buddy

 

The one I want is this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-S2417DG-YNY1D-24-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B01IOO4SGK

 

Found it, here you go. 

 

 

Also 23.8"? I'd go a bit bigger for QHD, like 27.

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11 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

I can only ask "how do either compare to my 970?" because that's all I have to compare to.

Compare the 970 to 980 and that's pretty much more than half of the story. Not worth the upgrade. 

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1 minute ago, leadeater said:

You had me at Dell monitor, love mine.

The only company left with good design imo. Not screaming gaming and all. 

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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Compare the 970 to 980 and that's pretty much more thab half of the story. Not worth the upgrade. 

So wait for 1080ti or whatever the next Fury is. (I like my triple monitor surround, need more horsepower)

 

Got it.

Ketchup is better than mustard.

GUI is better than Command Line Interface.

Dubs are better than subs

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