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I´m planning to get a MSI z170 Gaming M3 motherboard for an i7-6700k. I wonder if it is better to get a better motherboard or should I invest on a better cooler for overclocking. What do you think?

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Better cooler for sure. Better mobo won't improve anything at all

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Yeah, as the guy above said, invest in a better cooler. Maybe a 240mm AIO.

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1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Better cooler for sure. Better mobo won't improve anything at all

"Won't" and "Anything" are some strong words there.

 

 

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Will I achieve better Overclock speed with a better Cooler than with a better Motherboard?

It could be any of these

Maximus VIII Hero ( $229.55 ) + Hyper 212 EVO ($32.94) =   $262.49
MSI M3 ($127) + Corsair Hydro Series H110i ($127.26) =      $254.26

 

Or should I wait a little more to get both a good Motherboard and a good cooler??

 

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1 minute ago, AlexZugas said:

Will I achieve better Overclock speed with a better Cooler than with a better Motherboard?

It could be any of these

Maximus VIII Hero ( $229.55 ) + Hyper 212 EVO ($32.94) =   $262.49
MSI M3 ($127) + Corsair Hydro Series H110i ($127.26) =      $254.26

 

Or should I wait a little more to get both a good Motherboard and a good cooler??

 

I don't think your use case will really benefit from a better motherboard. Get the H110 instead of the Hero.

REMILIA Mk.IIIE CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X, Cooler: Arctic Freezer II 240 (Noctua NT-H2), RAM: 4x 8Gb sticks of Patriot Viper Steel Series 3600 CL17, Mobo: AsRock X570 Taichi, GPU: Inno3D RTX 3080 iChill x4 10G, Storage: 1TB Intel 670p NVME SSD boot drive, a few 1TB and 512gb SATA/NVME SSDs for game storage, 6 hard drives 1-4 TB, PSU: Corsair RM750 MY2019, Case: Cooler Master Mastercase 5 MC500 (with add-ons, Noctua NF-A14 and Arctic P14 fans), PCIE Cards: Cheap Chinese Marvell 88SE9215 4 port SATA card, Sonnet Allegro USB3.2 Card Monitors: ViewSonic Elite XG270QC (165hz, 1ms MPRT, 1440p, VA, Freesync PP, pneumatic stand), Hp Z27n (IPS, 60hz, 1440p, 8Ms), iiyama G2530HSU-B (75Hz, Freesync, one in landscape, one in Portrait, all on pneumatic monitor stands).

 

Mic: iSK UPM-1 USB XLR interface with Neewer NW700, Audio: Sabaj A3 160W DAC/AMP + Wharfdale Diamond 220 + Mission MS6 Sub, ifi Zen DAC v2 + ifi Zen CAN, Littledot Mk.II (w/ Soviet Power tubes and British Mulard M8100s/Soviet Voshkod 6JP-EV/ American General Electric JAN 5654W dependent on mood), Sendy Aiva (Primary), Beyer Dynamic DT990 250ohm Black Special Edition, Audeze EL-8 Open Back, Sennheiser HD598SE (modified to be a headset, snapped headband held together with gorilla tape), Mouse: SteelSeries Rival 600, Keyboard: Glorious GMMK ISO with Mengmoda MMD Tactile (main) and Kailh Box Navy (Function keys), Tribosys 3203 brush lubed, Taihao Green forest caps.

 

KOAKUMA Mk.IB (24/7 Folding Slave PC made of spare parts): CPU: Core i7 4770, Cooler: Some small antex cooler with 80mm fan, RAM: 2x 4Gb Sticks of 2400Mhz DDR3, Mobo: Asus H81i-Plus, GPU: R9 390 Nitro+ (barely fits in case), Storage: 256gb Korean no-name SATA SSD, PSU: Corsair CX550 (Gray label), Case: Antec ISK600 ITX case. [Given away to friend]

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And between the M3 and the Gigabyte Ultra Gaming ($175) which one represents a better overall value?

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2 hours ago, AlexZugas said:

Will I achieve better Overclock speed with a better Cooler than with a better Motherboard?

It could be any of these

Maximus VIII Hero ( $229.55 ) + Hyper 212 EVO ($32.94) =   $262.49
MSI M3 ($127) + Corsair Hydro Series H110i ($127.26) =      $254.26

 

Or should I wait a little more to get both a good Motherboard and a good cooler??

 

 

Yes defenitly do save up for better components. 

 

Though, you don't have to go with a hero board. You could consider going with a cheaper overclocking board. Like the Asus Ranger or Asrock extreme 4. 

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19 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

Yes defenitly do save up for better components. 

 

Though, you don't have to go with a hero board. You could consider going with a cheaper overclocking board. Like the Asus Ranger or Asrock extreme 4. 

The Ranger is $4 cheaper than the Hero so...:P

 

I've never been a big fan of Asrock though.

 

Skylake has like 1 year since is out, is still ok to invest a little more on it?

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3 minutes ago, AlexZugas said:

The Ranger is $4 cheaper than the Hero so...:P

 

I've never been a big fan of Asrock though.

 

Well then, hero it is.

 

Asrock made one of the best overclocking board with their oc formula this gen. I haven't seen a reason why one should avoid asrock. 

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14 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

Well then, hero it is.

 

Asrock made one of the best overclocking board with their oc formula this gen. I haven't seen a reason why one should avoid asrock. 

That Asrock oc formula looks really good, but it's way beyond my budget :P

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Invest in the better cooler now and you can move it over to a better motherboard later.

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21 minutes ago, asand1 said:

Invest in the better cooler now and you can move it over to a better motherboard later.

What will I do with a spare Z170 motherboard o.O?

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Not sure what your asking here? Do you already have a Z170?

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Seasonic Focus GM 750, Samsung EVO 860 EVO SSD M.2, Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 1TB PCIe NVMe, Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon

 

Daughter's Rig;

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4 hours ago, AlexZugas said:

Will I achieve better Overclock speed with a better Cooler than with a better Motherboard?

It could be any of these

Maximus VIII Hero ( $229.55 ) + Hyper 212 EVO ($32.94) =   $262.49
MSI M3 ($127) + Corsair Hydro Series H110i ($127.26) =      $254.26

 

Or should I wait a little more to get both a good Motherboard and a good cooler??

 

This.

 

Get the cooler now and throw it on whatever you currently have. Then when you get the CPU and mobo swap it on.

Black Knight-

Ryzen 5 5600, GIGABYTE B550M DS3H, 16Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz, Asrock RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming,

Seasonic Focus GM 750, Samsung EVO 860 EVO SSD M.2, Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 1TB PCIe NVMe, Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon

 

Daughter's Rig;

MSI B450 A Pro, Ryzen 5 3600x, 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz, Silicon Power A55 512GB SSD, Gigabyte RX 5700 Gaming OC, Corsair CX430

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Sorry xD

 

I still do not have the Z170 motherboard. I was asking if it is better to buy the MSI M3 with the corsair cooling or wait for another month to get the Hero with the corsair.

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Best value? Go for the cheap motherboard AND the cheap cooler and forget about overclocking - or at least try not to maximize it. ;)

Overclocking generally offers very poor value if you actually invest in it.

 

Invest the difference in a graphics card, liquor & hookers, or put it away so you can upgrade sooner a few years down the line. :P

 

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