Can you run PCIE and SATA SSD'S together?

[Max_Tech]

So I'm in the process of getting a PC parts together and I just want to know if your are able to run a SATA SSD as a boot drive and a PCIE SSD for everything else? 

[Matt_98]

1 minute ago, Max_Tech said:

So I'm in the process of getting a PC parts together and I just want to know if your are able to run a SATA SSD as a boot drive and a PCIE SSD for everything else? 

in most cases yes

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Max_Tech said:

So I'm in the process of getting a PC parts together and I just want to know if your are able to run a SATA SSD as a boot drive and a PCIE SSD for everything else? 

Yes. But why wouldn't you want the PCIE SSD as the boot drive? 

[Mr.Humble]

3 minutes ago, CaptainGunny said:

Yes. But why wouldn't you want the PCIE SSD as the boot drive? 

Exactly. PCIE SSDs are much faster than their SATA counterparts. I'd recommend getting the PCIe SSD for boot drive and a large SATA SSD for bulk storage and other programs, if you can afford it, otherwise go for a HDD.

 

I'd also recommend some sort of a redundant setup for your drives, such as RAID1, so you'd be protected against data loss in case of a hardware failure

[SeanAngelo]

24 minutes ago, Max_Tech said:

So I'm in the process of getting a PC parts together and I just want to know if your are able to run a SATA SSD as a boot drive and a PCIE SSD for everything else? 

yeah you can

[Max_Tech]

Thanks 

 

[Max_Tech]

8 hours ago, vojta.pokorny said:

Exactly. PCIE SSDs are much faster than their SATA counterparts. I'd recommend getting the PCIe SSD for boot drive and a large SATA SSD for bulk storage and other programs, if you can afford it, otherwise go for a HDD.

 

I'd also recommend some sort of a redundant setup for your drives, such as RAID1, so you'd be protected against data loss in case of a hardware failure

Ok thanks all so if I use say a 250  gigabyte PCIE SSD for boot like you said and a 500 gigabyte SATA for everything else how would I do this exactly do this and this redundant drive what does this mean?

[NinJake]

If something is redundant that means there is something to fall back to in case something goes wrong.

 

In the case of a RAID setup, this means having 2 of the same drives, cloning the data between each. This way, if one drive fails or gets corrupt somehow, the other one will still retain the vital data to keep your system running. @Max_Tech

[Max_Tech]

3 minutes ago, NinJake said:

If something is redundant that means there is something to fall back to in case something goes wrong.

 

In the case of a RAID setup, this means having 2 of the same drives, cloning the data between each. This way, if one drive fails or gets corrupt somehow, the other one will still retain the vital data to keep your system running. @Max_Tech

Ok so maybe this seems more expensive then I thought so should I use a PCIE SSD for boot and just get a 2tb hard drive now and somewhere along the line get a SATA SSD 

[NinJake]

Honestly you don't need a redundant drive or a RAID setup. I would buy a PCIe SSD for your boot drive, and get a 500gb or so SATA SSD for games.

 

If you still have extra money afterwards, buy a 1-4tb mechanical HDD for mass media storage. Or you can invest extra cash into a 1-2TB external hard drive where you can keep backups of your computer. (this also acts as a redundant safety feature) Just keep in mind to do backups fairly often. (Once or twice a month is fine) @Max_Tech

[Max_Tech]

2 minutes ago, NinJake said:

Honestly you don't need a redundant drive or a RAID setup. I would buy a PCIe SSD for your boot drive, and get a 500gb or so SATA SSD for games.

 

If you still have extra money afterwards, buy a 1-4tb mechanical HDD for mass media storage. Or you can invest extra cash into a 1-2TB external hard drive where you can keep backups of your computer. (this also acts as a redundant safety feature) Just keep in mind to do backups fairly often. (Once or twice a month is fine) @Max_Tech

Alright thanks a lot so I think I will do this . So how big should the PCIE SSD be? And a Seagate Barracuda 2tb SSD a good choice.

[NinJake]

If you want just the OS on the PCIe drive, 120gb is more than enough. A 2tb seagate SSD? You might be talking about a HDD, I prefer Western Digital drives but it all comes down to your personal preference. I personally have a 2tb WD Black drive for mass storage and it has been working well for the past year. @Max_Tech

[Max_Tech]

Just now, NinJake said:

If you want just the OS on the PCIe drive, 120gb is more than enough. A 2tb seagate SSD? You might be talking about a HDD, I prefer Western Digital drives but it all comes down to your personal preference. I personally have a 2tb WD Black drive for mass storage and it has been working well for the past year. @Max_Tech

Yeah I meant HDD derp! Can I use this as a redundant drive or only external ones? 

[NinJake]

You can save backups to your HDD, however I would recommend an external drive.

 

If you have a virus and your backups are on the same drive as the virus then your system may still be at risk. If you save your backups to an external drive and you accidentally get a virus, then you can restore your backup from the external drive. (Untouched by the virus on your pc)

 

This is all worst case scenario, if you are careful about your web browsing and downloads, you'll be fine! However if you are a gamer then I'd definitely see if you could get a separate SATA SSD for storing your commonly played games for faster load times. @Max_Tech

[Max_Tech]

2 minutes ago, NinJake said:

You can save backups to your HDD, however I would recommend an external drive.

 

If you have a virus and your backups are on the same drive as the virus then your system may still be at risk. If you save your backups to an external drive and you accidentally get a virus, then you can restore your backup from the external drive. (Untouched by the virus on your pc)

 

This is all worst case scenario, if you are careful about your web browsing and downloads, you'll be fine! However if you are a gamer then I'd definitely see if you could get a separate SATA SSD for storing your commonly played games for faster load times. @Max_Tech

Right so I can sort of see what I'll do I use the PCIE SSD for boot and a SATA for commonly played games and a Hard drive for all the other crap I do and then use a external drive for backups! 

You seem to know your way around PC's so can I run you through my proposed setup? Just to see if there are any issues.  

[NinJake]

You can run it by me. Or you can make a new post in the "PC builds and planning" thread to get more opinions and responses. These are just the best-practices that have proven to be successful for me, other people may have different opinions. It's always best to get multiple opinions than one. (This goes for everything, not just building a PC) @Max_Tech

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/forum/18-new-builds-and-planning/

[Max_Tech]

4 minutes ago, NinJake said:

You can run it by me. Or you can make a new post in the "PC builds and planning" thread to get more opinions and responses. These are just the best-practices that have proven to be successful for me, other people may have different opinions. It's always best to get multiple opinions than one. (This goes for everything, not just building a PC) @Max_Tech

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/forum/18-new-builds-and-planning/

Well your on now so I just run it by you:

CPU- Intel core I5 6600k 

RAM- Corsair vengeance Led Blue 16gb 

Motherboard- MSI Z170A plus 

CPU Cooler- Coolermatser Hyper 212 Evo

PSU- Corsair 650m 

Graphic Card- GTX 1070 G1 gaming 

HDD- Seagate Baracuda 2tb 

SSD- Intel 600P series 128gb PCIE drive, Samsung EVO 500gb SATA SSD 

Case- Coolermaster Master box 5

Fans- 1x- 120mm Corsair AF 120 blue led 2x- 140mm Corsair AF 140 blue led

 

[NinJake]

That looks like a great build! Nice black and blue color scheme you have going on as well. The only thing I would say is maybe try to get a gold+ certified PSU if possible. That's just for efficiencies sake. However, all the parts you have there will work with each other. Maybe look into buying some arctic silver thermal paste instead of using the thermal paste that comes with your CPU. (5-10 bucks more)
 @Max_Tech

[NinJake]

Here's a nice PSU. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438054 @Max_Tech

[Max_Tech]

Just now, NinJake said:

That looks like a great build! Nice black and blue color scheme you have going on as well. The only thing I would say is maybe try to get a gold+ certified PSU if possible. That's just for efficiencies sake. However, all the parts you have there will work with each other. Maybe look into buying some arctic silver thermal paste instead of using the thermal paste that comes with your CPU. (5-10 bucks more)
 @Max_Tech

Oh right yeah that PSU is 80+ gold and I already have a thermal paste 

 

9 minutes ago, NinJake said:

Here's a nice PSU. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438054 @Max_Tech

Oh I have had experience with EVGA PSU my last PC EVGA PSU exploded and killed my 960 so yeah I'll stick with corsair 

[Mira Yurizaki]

If by PCIe SSD you mean plugging an SSD in a PCIe slot, then you can run them together all hunky dory. The caveat is if you plug it into an x16 slot, it may cut the graphics PCIe lanes to x8, not that this will have any real impact on the graphics card's performance.

 

If you mean an NVMe SSD, then in a lot of cases, it will disable usually two SATA ports. The motherboard manual will mention which ones.