Nvidia vs AMD DX12 performance

[dronikal]

First of all Hi to all the people reading this.I'm a GTX 1070 owner and for the past few months I have been watching a lot of reviews and other benchmarks and started wondering why are Nvidia unlike AMD not optimising the cards for DX12.As most of LTT reviews and benchmarks show the Nvidia cards drop in performance when we compare DX11 and DX12.So I just wanted to see what people think the main reasons behind the bad (compared to AMD) optimisation of GPUs. 

[Enderman]

AMD got 0 performance and nvidia got negative performance.

Just don't use DX12 for a few more years until it's ready.

[SLAYR]

Dx12 is still new, AMD only does better due to asynchronous compute.

[Mira Yurizaki]

Optimization methods differ between one architecture over the other.

 

Plus it's still new and there isn't an engine that's been built from the ground up for DX12.

[dronikal]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

AMD got 0 performance and nvidia got negative performance.

Just don't use DX12 for a few more years until it's ready.

i would not say that AMD has 0 performance since in some games we can see higher FPS (bewtween 1-5 ) it's something.

[Enderman]

Just now, dronikal said:

i would not say that AMD has 0 performance since in some games we can see higher FPS (bewtween 1-5 ) it's something.

Look at the BF1 benchmark, it's 0.

Buying one card over another for 1-5fps in like 0.000001% of games is ridiculous.

Much better to buy the card that has higher performance in DX11.

[TetraSky]

Because just like when DX11 first came out, there's no point optimizing your card/driver for something next to nobody make use of in their games yet.
You should start seeing difference in the next gen, but if you're getting a GPU today for DX12, prepare to be disappointed. 

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

Because if Nvidia started adding ACE shaders to their architecture it would just increase power consumption for little to no performance benefit. AMD is actually the one who is behind in architecture so they have to use ACE in order to keep up.  

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

Because if Nvidia started adding ACE shaders to their architecture it would just increase power consumption for little to no performance benefit. AMD is actually the one who is behind in architecture so they have to use ACE in order to keep up.  

No, AMD is not behind. AMD simply chose a different path to take.

 

AMD built their GPUs to handle generic compute loads. This required the need for ACEs in order to keep the processors saturated with work.

NVIDIA built their GPUs (the GeForce lineup anyway) to handle graphical loads. Graphical loads are highly predictable and thus did not need a hardware scheduler.

 

 

[JimmyDeans]

13 minutes ago, Enderman said:

AMD got 0 performance and nvidia got negative performance.

Just don't use DX12 for a few more years until it's ready.

BattleField 1 just made everything for me unstable with DX12 enabled I agree it needs alot more time before its my main choice