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mobo manufacturers released BIOS updates for their LGA1151 boards for upcoming Intel's Kaby Lake CPUs

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8 hours ago, zMeul said:

because there isn't a LGA2011 and 2011-v3 .. oh wait -_-

It's not like DDR4 came out oh and 3 years.

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I've updated the bios on my z170m-plus. They don't have the new cpus in cpu list yet though,well I suppose that's to be expected.  Was hoping for more info 

 

 

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If you have such an existing mobo, will it be worth replacing the CPU to Kaby Lake? Maybe if you have a low end, but not sure it is worth it otherwise. If building new, it would be a bit more future resistant to get the newer chipset anyway.

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13 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

Can't wait to upgrade from 6700K to 7700K. Not that I need to or anything, not at all. I just love me some new tech to toy with. Having a boost clock of 4.5GHz will be nice ? 

you won't feel a huge difference :S

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16 minutes ago, belfouf said:

you won't feel a huge difference :S

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3647vs3502

 

 

I know, hence why I mentioned "Not that I need to or anything, not at all. I just love me some new tech to toy with."

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15 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Haswell was on the same socket. Every socket lasts 2 chip generations

it appears so, correct me if the table is wrong:

 

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(only desktop sockets)

 

ps: I wasn't talking about arch, but about generation within same arch

ps2: there is one oddity, LGA 2011-1 for Ivy Bridge-EX

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5 hours ago, zMeul said:

it appears so, correct me if the table is wrong:

 

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(only desktop sockets)

 

ps: I wasn't talking about arch, but about generation within same arch

ps2: there is one oddity, LGA 2011-1 for Ivy Bridge-EX

That is an oddity, but most consumers can't get their hands on EX parts, so let's set that aside. Every socket lasts through at least 2 architectures.

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10 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

That is an oddity, but most consumers can't get their hands on EX parts, so let's set that aside. Every socket lasts through at least 2 architectures.

oh, that was a mighty colorful picture @zMeul posted. How long did it take before you could see it on your awesome aussie internet?

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I feel like this whole argument about Architecture and Generation was entirely moot and irrelevant to the news from the OP and thus, an attempt for derailing the thread?

I also feel like it all started cause someone confused Sockets with Chipsets... which is an odd thing to get confused about on a Tech forum unless you're new to Tech.

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7 minutes ago, PocketNerd said:

I feel like this whole argument about Architecture and Generation was entirely moot and irrelevant to the news from the OP and thus, an attempt for derailing the thread?

Its more of what happens when two people don't share the same viewpoint.

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20 minutes ago, PocketNerd said:

I also feel like it all started cause someone confused Sockets with Chipsets

no one did that, what are you talking about ?!?!

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Kaby Lake here I comexD
btw I found this list on Hexus

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https://www.msi.com/news/detail/4DuZ5dTyszeNEwQyHwBuDZb9TBWM8wePcYJREpXHGmGs9Fr4DROQG2CPr873-CFaGVmSDkMx_glYK3ohz7EvUg~~

 

as expected MSi has followed and published their list of LGA1151 mobos that will support Kaby Lake CPUs, tho the lsit is much smaller and doesn't include H170 chipset .. for some reason

here is the list:

Spoiler

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update on this: https://www.computerbase.de/2016-09/bios-update-msi-skylake-mainboard-kaby-lake-intel/

 

MSI has now pulled the BIOS updates, they found a problem with the update(s) and are now working on fix it

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After the new BIOS updates were taken offline again without comment, MSI has indicated to Computer Base on Thursday that an error was found will be corrected currently. If the problem is resolved, are updated BIOS versions are provided for all motherboards available. According to MSI, this should probably be done shortly.

 

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today GigaByte joined the club with BETA BIOS updates for KabyLake; I'll try to make a table if I can't find a press release or "something" directly from them

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Guru3D has a list of validated GigaByte boards for upcoming KabyLake CPUs: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/gigabyte-offers-kaby-lake-bios-updates-z170h170b150-and-h110-motherboards.html


 

GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 GA-Z170XP-SLI GA-Z170X-Ultra Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming 3
GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 GA-Z170-HD3P GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5 GA-Z170N-WiFi
GA-Z170M-D3H GA-H170-D3H GA-Z170X-Gaming 6 GA-Z170X-UD3 Ultra
GA-Z170X-UD3 GA-Z170-D3H GA-Z170-HD3 GA-Z170N-Gaming 5
GA-Z170-Gaming K3 GA-Z170X-UD5 GA-H170-Gaming 3 GA-H170-D3H
GA-H170N-WiFi GA-B150-HD3 GA-B150M-D3V GA-B150M-HD3
GA-B150M-D3H GA-B150-HD3P GA-B150N Phoenix-WiFi GA-B150M-DS3P
GA-H110M-A GA-H110M-S2V GA-H110M-S2PT GA-H110M-DS2
GA-H110M-S2 GA-H110M-D3H GA-H110M-S2H GA-H110M-S2PV
GA-H110M-H GA-H110M-S2PH GA-H110M-WW GA-H110M-HD2
GA-H110M-S2HP GA-H110N GA-H110M-Gaming 3 GA-H110TN-M
GA-H110M-DS2V GA-H110-D3 GA-P110-D3
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1 hour ago, zMeul said:

Guru3D has a list of validated GigaByte boards for upcoming KabyLake CPUs: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/gigabyte-offers-kaby-lake-bios-updates-z170h170b150-and-h110-motherboards.html


 

GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 GA-Z170XP-SLI GA-Z170X-Ultra Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming 3
GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 GA-Z170-HD3P GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5 GA-Z170N-WiFi
GA-Z170M-D3H GA-H170-D3H GA-Z170X-Gaming 6 GA-Z170X-UD3 Ultra
GA-Z170X-UD3 GA-Z170-D3H GA-Z170-HD3 GA-Z170N-Gaming 5
GA-Z170-Gaming K3 GA-Z170X-UD5 GA-H170-Gaming 3 GA-H170-D3H
GA-H170N-WiFi GA-B150-HD3 GA-B150M-D3V GA-B150M-HD3
GA-B150M-D3H GA-B150-HD3P GA-B150N Phoenix-WiFi GA-B150M-DS3P
GA-H110M-A GA-H110M-S2V GA-H110M-S2PT GA-H110M-DS2
GA-H110M-S2 GA-H110M-D3H GA-H110M-S2H GA-H110M-S2PV
GA-H110M-H GA-H110M-S2PH GA-H110M-WW GA-H110M-HD2
GA-H110M-S2HP GA-H110N GA-H110M-Gaming 3 GA-H110TN-M
GA-H110M-DS2V GA-H110-D3 GA-P110-D3

There's going to be new chipsets for Kabylake CPUs right?

 

A Z270 or something like that?  (As an example.  I assume there'd be new H and B chipsets too.)

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1 hour ago, Bleedingyamato said:

There's going to be new chipsets for Kabylake CPUs right?

 

A Z270 or something like that?  (As an example.  I assume there'd be new H and B chipsets too.)

yes, there will gonna be a 200 series of chipsets but looks like they will not be specifically for KabyLake, SkyLake should work just fine

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1 hour ago, zMeul said:

yes, there will gonna be a 200 series of chipsets but looks like they will not be specifically for KabyLake, SkyLake should work just fine

What are the 200 series chipsets mean to do differently/better then?

 

I thought I'd heard that Kabylake CPUs are going to have a few new features or something that would require a 200 series chipset to enable.

 

Not to say that a 100 series chipset wouldn't work (at least with an updated bios) but that a Kabylake CPU wouldn't have every feature enabled.  

 

I could be wrong since I can't remember where I heard that from.  ?

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2 hours ago, Bleedingyamato said:

What are the 200 series chipsets mean to do differently/better then?

 

I thought I'd heard that Kabylake CPUs are going to have a few new features or something that would require a 200 series chipset to enable.

 

Not to say that a 100 series chipset wouldn't work (at least with an updated bios) but that a Kabylake CPU wouldn't have every feature enabled.  

 

I could be wrong since I can't remember where I heard that from.  ?

at this point I didn't find any info on those 200 series chipsets, although Intel put out a chipset driver RST update that supports the 200 series

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1 hour ago, zMeul said:

at this point I didn't find any info on those 200 series chipsets, although Intel put out a chipset driver update that supports the 200 series

What's a chipset driver? 

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3 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

What's a chipset driver? 

it's a driver for the chipset

every component in the PC, to be recognized by the OS, needs a driver

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47 minutes ago, zMeul said:

it's a driver for the chipset

every component in the PC, to be recognized by the OS, needs a driver

Sorry.  I should've been more clear.  I know what a driver is but I think what I meant to ask was is a chipset driver part of the bios?  Or something you'd have to install manually after installing an OS?

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Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

Sorry.  I should've been more clear.  I know what a driver is but I think what I meant to ask was is a chipset driver part of the bios?  Or something you'd have to install manually after installing an OS?

yes, you install it after Windows is up and running

latest one, for Intel, is available here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/20775/Intel-Chipset-Device-Software-INF-Update-Utility-?product=1145

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