About to order Parts for new build, any comments or reccomendations

[21rkosta]

im about to build a new pc, what do you guys think on the parts, would you do anything differently?, its for 1080p 60fps gaming BTW link

 

Theres also a sandisk ultra 2 480gb but its allready purchased

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($198.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($123.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB D5 6G Video Card  ($254.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Dvi cable ($7.00)
Total: $857.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-24 11:39 EDT-0400

[AresKrieger]

You don't need a z170 moba since you can't OC so save 30ish bucks

 

Rest seems good to me

[AresKrieger]

1 minute ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Downgrade the hard drive and get yourself an SSD. And someone's probably going to tell you to get a better PSU.

Why would they tell him to get a better PSU it's a GQ, and more than enough watts

[21rkosta]

@wrathoftheturkeyoh lol forgot to add the sandisk ultra 2 but thats allready purchased

[PRTI]

You do not need a Z170 board if you do not wanna OC

[21rkosta]

@wrathoftheturkeythe psu is actualy a good option because i have a completely random and unexplainable fear of corsair psus

[HKZeroFive]

Keep the Z170 for future expandability and so you actually utilise that 3000MHz RAM (which many people seem to gloss over for some reason...).

[21rkosta]

@keNNySOC the graphics cards will probobly switched long before the psu and i might wanna go dual graphics cards eventually and ive heard that the non-overclockable boards dont support 2x8 pci lane config, also i have a 6600k in a different system that i might switch into this one eventualy

[PRTI]

4 minutes ago, 21rkosta said:

@keNNySOC the graphics cards will probobly switched long before the psu and i might wanna go dual graphics cards eventually and ive heard that the non-overclockable boards dont support 2x8 pci lane config, also i have a 6600k in a different system that i might switch into this one eventualy

Well if you plan on SLI i recommend a i7 (depending what cards you SLI, also GTX 1060's cannot SLI)

[21rkosta]

@keNNySOC i know about the 1060 thing, and i dont exactly plan on it but i would perfer the future option

[PRTI]

Just now, 21rkosta said:

@keNNySOC i know about the 1060 thing, and i dont exactly plan on it but i would perfer the future option

Well if you plan on a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 in 1080p and 1440p its gonna get bottlenecked by a i5 pretty hard (I'm not even talking about SLI)

[21rkosta]

@keNNySOCnot realy i mean i know many many people who have a 6th gen i5 and have 1070s or even 1070 sli and there bottlenecking aint that bad

[PRTI]

Just now, 21rkosta said:

@keNNySOCnot realy i mean i know many many people who have a 6th gen i5 and have 1070s or even 1070 sli and there bottlenecking aint that bad

You surely got something wrong, the bottleneck is pretty bad @don_svetlio

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, 21rkosta said:

@keNNySOCnot realy i mean i know many many people who have a 6th gen i5 and have 1070s or even 1070 sli and there bottlenecking aint that bad

It's actually quite bad. i5s have reached their limits. @Dackzy can link you some video proof.

[Dackzy]

why are people still on this i5 is god CPU BS.

 

10% difference in GTA V when both are OCed and most of the time the i5 just catches up to the i7 when it is OCed to 4.5GHz, who says that you can get that OC? Also that is with maxwell Titan X, not Pascal, so this is basically a 1070. This graph is by digitalfoundry.

You might look at it and think oh that is nothing, well now think about the i7 giving you a more stable FPS, now think about that the i5 when running at 4.5GHz bearly gives the same FPS as a stock 6700k and what if you cannot get your i5 to that, now think about if your CPU goes up to 80-90% or over, then you might get some stuttering. Lastly think about the future 

and then you have this video that shows that at 1080p locked 60 FPS the 6600k at 4.5GHZ has a really hard time with a 1060. We even see 99% in witcher 3 and if you think it will get better in the furture then you are a fool, it will only get worse, when "next gen" games start hitting us in 2-3 years, then that i5 is fucked harder than it already is. Games are getting more and more CPU demanding.

 

[PRTI]

9 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

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We try to explain to people that i5's are not what they seem they are, but there's so much shit in the community of tech like "i7's are only meant for productivity and not for gaming, if your gaming buy a i5 and save money" is what everyone that has not been told or explained says.

[21rkosta]

look to be fair i plan to do some minor-major upgrading in a year or year and a half like i always do, so it should be fine

[Dackzy]

2 minutes ago, keNNySOC said:

We try to explain to people that i5's are not what they seem they are, but there's so much shit in the community of tech like "i7's are only meant for productivity and not for gaming, if your gaming buy a i5 and save money" is what everyone that has not been told or explained says.

I was told that when I built my current desktop (back when the 780ti was brand new). I hate it when youtubers say BS like i5 for gaming, i7 for productivity, it is like they don't even look at how much stress CPUs are under when you play AAA games today, but because of that, we have a shit ton of people saying that a i5 can handle a 1070 or 1080 or even SLI.

[PRTI]

Just now, Dackzy said:

I was told that when I built my current desktop (back when the 780ti was brand new). I hate it when youtubers say BS like i5 for gaming, i7 for productivity, it is like they don't even look at how much stress CPUs are under when you play AAA games today, but because of that, we have a shit ton of people saying that a i5 can handle a 1070 or 1080 or even SLI.

Yup, that is one of the biggest bs in tech world so allot of people say it, soon we are probably gonna need i7's to run GPU's at full paste

[Dackzy]

3 minutes ago, keNNySOC said:

Yup, that is one of the biggest bs in tech world so allot of people say it, soon we are probably gonna need i7's to run GPU's at full paste

well for any form of CF or SLI with current gen cards you already need a i7 and for single high end cards and enthusiast cards you also need a i7, unless you play games that puts little to no stress on the CPU or you play at 4k.

[PRTI]

Just now, Dackzy said:

well for any form of CF or SLI with current gen cards you already need a i7 and for single high end cards and enthusiast cards you also need a i7, unless you play games that puts little to no stress on the CPU or you play at 4k.

Yea, i5 for gaming, i7 for productivity is a shit claim and is 100% untrue we (who actually know tech) can agree on that

 

One also big shit is that the higher res the more powerful CPU you need

 

Also that ram speed matters in gaming performance (matters with APU's but not at all with Discrete GPU's but in some games you do benefit from higher clocked ram) not that common like the other two but still exists somewhere.

[Dackzy]

2 minutes ago, keNNySOC said:

Yea, i5 for gaming, i7 for productivity is a shit claim and is 100% untrue we (who actually know tech) can agree on that

 

One also big shit is that the higher res the more powerful CPU you need

 

Also that ram speed matters in gaming performance (matters with APU's but not at all with Discrete GPU's but in some games you do benefit from higher clocked ram) not that common like the other two but still exists somewhere.

oh in BF4 I got a 6-8FPS boost from going from 1600MHz to 2400MHz, my desktop had a 780ti and a i7 4770k back then.

 

I just really hate that the big tech youtubers keep saying i5= gaming, maybe it is to not scare off all of the i5 fanboys.

 

With res you most often see that the bottleneck disappears when you go from 1080p to 4k.

 

 

@21rkosta get a i7 if you plan to get a 1070

[21rkosta]

i may get a 1070 in the future but its not on the current plan